The OP is right though when it comes to MCT. I have been to Berlin this year when Fraport and Lufthansa received a ridiculous so called logistics award 2008 for the great connection service they offer at their FRA hub. The official press release also states those 45 minutes that I seemed to recall hearing at the event.
fact is LH connections in FRA with less than 60 min are not legal. this was confirmed by the HON hotline btw. maybe 45 is fine for domestic, but definitely not for international...
As Schengen to Schengen is treated the same as domestic, it is still 45 minutes. You can beat this dead horse as much as you want, but even lh.com will sell you seats with a 45, 50, and 55 minute connection. If it wasn't legal, lh.com couldn't be allowed to sell it.
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As Schengen to Schengen is treated the same as domestic, it is still 45 minutes. You can beat this dead horse as much as you want, but even lh.com will sell you seats with a 45, 50, and 55 minute connection. If it wasn't legal, lh.com couldn't be allowed to sell it.
Schengen to Schengen is 45 minutes and a legal MCT at FRA.
The OP admits that he is American and therefore used to the great brands of Budweiser, Coors et al. which for any decent European beer afficionado are just watered down chemically modified bad fluids.
Why does he not stick with AF/KL or the flying AZ joke or use MUC as his transit point. Also there are a lot of destinations you can swim to from Venice.
However I agree in one point a 45 min FRA MCT Non-Schengen to Schengen is pure fantasy and has nothing to do with reality at peak times ( unless you are HON ).
The OP admits that he is American and therefore used to the great brands of Budweiser, Coors et al. which for any decent European beer afficionado are just watered down chemically modified bad fluids.
Why does he not stick with AF/KL or the flying AZ joke or use MUC as his transit point. Also there are a lot of destinations you can swim to from Venice.
However I agree in one point a 45 min FRA MCT Non-Schengen to Schengen is pure fantasy and has nothing to do with reality at peak times ( unless you are HON ).
Only an elitist, exclusivist would resort to taking someone's citizenship into account when stereotyping. Just because my passport says USA, you have no idea about my upbringing, education, and experiences, therefore making such a statement shows your ignorance and intolerance for other people. If you had read my posts carefully you would see that I prefer 1664 as is served on AF. At the Berlin Marriott, there was a great beer in the fridge in the CL. I don't recall the name as in grand German fashion contained at least 20 letters and various accent marks making it quite difficult to remember for a retarded American like myself. I have drunk great beers in many countries around the world and really appreciate a good brew. I just happen to think that Warsteiner is bitter and certainly not thirst-quenching. I don't drink Coors and think it is worse than camel pee. But, in the summer heat and humidity that is uniquely American, nothing beats an ice cold Bud Light, or two, or three, perhaps a fourth and a fifth.
Argue all you want about the MCT at FRA. It is 45 minutes. Same goes for CDG. And anyone that has experience flying through CDG knows that 45 minutes is generally not enough to make a comfortable connection. Yet, it is a legal connection.
Again, if you'd read the posts, Fendant, you would've seen that I had no choice with the LH flights. I am not the one paying for it and have to take the flights they've given me. Otherwise, perhaps I would've taken AF/KL everywhere. And mind you, the only time I've taken AZ has been on a few VCE-FCO-VCE flights, MXP-ATH (what would you take if your choices were AZ or OA?) and once, FCO-BCN when IB cancelled due to mechanical and was forced over to AZ. I do not enjoy flying them and do my best to avoid them.
I have to fly around the US and North America in horrid domestic Y on 2-3h flights on work all year. I would love to have your problems in european Y/C When my colleagues in Europe complain that the SEN lounge had no change in the menu since 4 weeks and the 'experience taste' menu on domestic/european C is slowly tasting horrid I just roll my eyes.
Interesting.
In all my domestic flying experience collected so far, I hate the European domestic travel the most. I'd trade the nice lounges, the efficient FA droids, and all the other graspable benefit of EU travel for better hardware and the prohibition of buses.
And I am not just referring to the infinitely superior experiences intra-Asia or in NZ & Oz but even the terrible US aviation system. I'd take the horrible TSA henchmen, the filthy airports, the nonexistent 'centers of tranquility and relaxation' over the seating for the 7 dwarfs aboard LH Y, the never ending bus terror, and the slow motion security @ FRA any day.
Like everyone here, I outright despise domestic US air travel but I hate it somewhat less than what the eclectic LH management in teamwork with the ignorant FRA administration and its bus driver union Ndranghetta have orchestrated in the heart of Europe .
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In all my domestic flying experience collected so far, I hate the European domestic travel the most. I'd trade the nice lounges, the efficient FA droids, and all the other graspable benefit of EU travel for better hardware and the prohibition of buses.
And I am not just referring to the infinitely superior experiences intra-Asia or in NZ & Oz but even the terrible US aviation system. I'd take the horrible TSA henchmen, the filthy airports, the nonexistent 'centers of tranquility and relaxation' over the seating for the 7 dwarfs aboard LH Y, the never ending bus terror, and the slow motion security @ FRA any day.
Like everyone here, I outright despise domestic US air travel but I hate it somewhat less than what the eclectic LH management in teamwork with the ignorant FRA administration and its bus driver union Ndranghetta have orchestrated in the heart of Europe .
Well stated!
As poorly as it compares to intra-Asia service and for all its shortcomings, most domestic NA F service between large cities is infinitely better than any intra-EU C/J, and generally at a fraction of the price. And smart travel management can avoid most of the worst of the NA system.
Try finding 21" seats, 38"-55" pitch and universal priority boarding anywhere in the LH/AF/BA intra-EU network.
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I still do not see any sense in paying for shorthaul C, irrespective of whether it's my company's or my own money.
Agreed. But sometimes you simply book C to make sure that you are on the top of the list list if you might need to rebook Friday rush hour.
However, last week I had a C-Class ticket and asked for a seat in Economy because row 1A/C and 2D/F were not available on a DUS-TXL flight and I did not feel like sitting in a windowless seat (I believe) 7A. 11A/F was available in Economy. The agent thought I got nuts.
What did I do (or miss)? Seat blocking worked (as mostly on mainline), I converted the seat to a C Class seat, had a meter of leg room, got my magazines and my lunch in the lounge and arrived perfectly happy in TXL.
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brands of Budweiser, Coors et al. which for any decent European beer afficionado are just watered down chemically modified bad fluids.
Just because my passport says USA, you have no idea about my upbringing, education, and experiences, therefore making such a statement shows your ignorance and intolerance for other people. If you had read my posts carefully you would see that I prefer 1664 as is served on AF. At the Berlin Marriott, there was a great beer in the fridge in the CL. I don't recall the name as in grand German fashion contained at least 20 letters and various accent marks making it quite difficult to remember for a retarded American like myself. I have drunk great beers in many countries around the world and really appreciate a good brew. I just happen to think that Warsteiner is bitter and certainly not thirst-quenching. I don't drink Coors and think it is worse than camel pee. But, in the summer heat and humidity that is uniquely American, nothing beats an ice cold Bud Light, or two, or three, perhaps a fourth and a fifth. 
When my colleagues in Europe complain that the SEN lounge had no change in the menu since 4 weeks and the 'experience taste' menu on domestic/european C is slowly tasting horrid I just roll my eyes.
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