Had the fortune of using the FCT yesterday () and asked my driver about your incident.
He had not heard about it, but said:
- the tarmac/apron in FRA is not heated at all in the first place. When there is black ice, they have a setup where a tanker with hot deicing fluid sprays the fluid on the ground and it is sucked up right behind by a street cleaning/vacuum truck. They have to remove the glycol immediately as it very slippery.
- When its around freezing, the condensation water from the aircraft (which seems to spill all around during pushback) frezes to black ice on the ground in the most unlikely places.
In training they were told to watch out for black ice in the winter and never let the guest walk ahead, only behind them on the same path they walked, not more than 3m away at any time. He admitted he wears special winter work shoes with a better grip, so a guest with leather soles may not have the same traction. BTW, I have Llyod's shoes too and they have an elegant version for the winter that has goretex and rubber soles for better grip.
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Had the fortune of using the FCT yesterday () and asked my driver about your incident.
He had not heard about it, but said:
- the tarmac/apron in FRA is not heated at all in the first place. When there is black ice, they have a setup where a tanker with hot deicing fluid sprays the fluid on the ground and it is sucked up right behind by a street cleaning/vacuum truck. They have to remove the glycol immediately as it very slippery.
- When its around freezing, the condensation water from the aircraft (which seems to spill all around during pushback) frezes to black ice on the ground in the most unlikely places.
In training they were told to watch out for black ice in the winter and never let the guest walk ahead, only behind them on the same path they walked, not more than 3m away at any time. He admitted he wears special winter work shoes with a better grip, so a guest with leather soles may not have the same traction. BTW, I have Llyod's shoes too and they have an elegant version for the winter that has goretex and rubber soles for better grip.
FT always amazes me how these discussions can go .... I hope the OP is better, and had a few great laughs reading this. And thanks for the heads up, I'll watch my step next time I fly LH F in the winter ...
Had the fortune of using the FCT yesterday () and asked my driver about your incident.
He had not heard about it, but said:
- the tarmac/apron in FRA is not heated at all in the first place. When there is black ice, they have a setup where a tanker with hot deicing fluid sprays the fluid on the ground and it is sucked up right behind by a street cleaning/vacuum truck. They have to remove the glycol immediately as it very slippery.
- When its around freezing, the condensation water from the aircraft (which seems to spill all around during pushback) frezes to black ice on the ground in the most unlikely places.
In training they were told to watch out for black ice in the winter and never let the guest walk ahead, only behind them on the same path they walked, not more than 3m away at any time. He admitted he wears special winter work shoes with a better grip, so a guest with leather soles may not have the same traction. BTW, I have Llyod's shoes too and they have an elegant version for the winter that has goretex and rubber soles for better grip.
Thanks for the info.
The driver did clearly not obide to this rule.
He was off to the door not even waiting for us fetching our hand luggage from the trunk, closing it remotely...
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Thanks for the info.
The driver did clearly not obide to this rule.
He was off to the door not even waiting for us fetching our hand luggage from the trunk, closing it remotely...
That's very unusual. While I prefer to just grab the hand luggage myself usually the drivers are faster than me and I have to nicely ask them to just give it to me.
I've similarly gone flying on the apron at MUC, whilst striding in a "I want locker space" way from a bus to a CRJ. Went absolutely flying, and landed hard on the ground. No real damage done as I landed on the most cushioned part of my body, but managed to do so in a pool of the most freezing, dirty, sticky liquid, which I had to sit in for the remainder of the flight on top of a plastic bag provided by the crew. The ground crew, helpfully, pointed out it was icy after I'd come a cropper...
Couldn't resist this:
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a note about a birth on the London tube system over christmas.
(and before you ask, conception there is far more problematical).
If you've ridden the Underground (particularly the Northern Line), you'll know that the passenger density and packing makes the possibility of conception not just easy, but positively accidental at times.
? Did I miss some subtle details.
) and asked my driver about your incident.
