Ryanair is planning to inaugurate service to new destinations in Germany.
For this the airline is holding talks with the following airports :
Dortmund
Moenchengladbach
Muenster/Osnabrueck
Paderborn
Weeze Laarbruch
BTW: This last city is at the border of Germany/Netherlands/Belgium between Essen and Eindhoven.
Preussag AG and Germania are planning to launch a budget airline together soon.
The new airline would initially take over 5 of Germania's Boeing 737s and the existing routes from Berlin to Frankfurt and Cologne. In the next 3 years the fleet should grow to 50 aircraft and will offer long-distance flights.
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Ryanair is in discussion about landing fees with the above mentioned airports. Landing fee for a B737 is about 3000EUR on smaller/regional airports. Ryanair wants to pay not more than 350EUR.
Weeze/Laarbruch is a field formerly used by the British Military and about 150 km away from AMS, 20 KM away from the Dutch border.
There was a story in a local paper some time ago and their future looks bright...
It will become a major cargo hub, if the red and green coalition will not fail again...., like in DUS !!
I don`t think, that MGL is capable of handling a 737, I am not sure, but their runway is 1350 metres long, is that enough for a 737-200 or 73G ??
DTM`s runway has been lengthen, so that would fit.
Münster/Osnabrück would be a great destination for Ryanair, Münster has 25000 students and LH ( EW ) rules out of there.
I am a little bit surprised at the moment, I expected Ryanair to promote their new Eindhoven-Stansted service much more in our region, but not a single ad so far in the regional papers.
Anyway BA and LH don`t sleep, they are offering DUS-LON around 100-120 Euros plus Tax basicly all the time on weekends.Cheapest fare on Buzz is 59 Euros one way....
Woo-hoo -- bring them on to FMO! It would be a nice addition to the dozens of charter planes that are currently crowding the airport. :-)
Seriously, I think that FMO and DTM are a step forward for Ryanair because the infrastructure is much better than at Hahn or Lübeck. Let's wait and see what routes they will offer...
A friend found this on the net and forwarded the following text to me.I don´t know if it´s a fake or the reality but very interesting....
REPORT ABOUT RYANAIR
020617. REPORT ABOUT RYANAIR.
We are a group of pilots employed by Ryanair in Ireland who are tired and scared of the way this company is being run and operated. We have now made a decision to go out and let the public know of the terrible circumstances that governs within this airline! (If we at all should call this an airline?)
The following report is not made to harm ANY persons as revenge etc. but simply to let the public and the respective authorities in the countries this company is using the airspace & facilities to know WHAT they are or will be dealing with!
We do prefer at this stage to be totally anonymous as the job market for pilots at the moment is a bit tight and also considering the non-moral & ethic reactions this company is capable to perform against us if our names comes up!
We must emphasize that these conditions that is about to be described IS NOT COMMON among SERIOUS airlines and that passengers should NOT be afraid to travel with respective charter & regular airlines in the futures! These terrible conditions are only to be found in some of the companies that SOLELY operates on the low cost principle and therefore wants to save money in ANY WAY & to ANY PRICE!!
As professional airline pilots we do feel the responsibility to let you all know the following facts about RYANAIR:
ILLEGAL DRUG ABUSE AMONG FLYING PERSONNEL.
In February 2002, 4-6 cabin-crew with base in Hahn, Germany were caught there while they where using illegal drugs in their hotel room by a Ryanair supervisor. 6 other cabin-crews where also after this investigated by Ryanair for the same reason. As far as we know was this NEVER reported to any official authority!!
ILLEGAL DRUGS ONBOARD AN AIRCRAFT.
In March 2002 illegal drugs was found onboard one of the company's airplanes by a coincidence by one of the cabin-crews while this airplane was airborne. The drug was cannabis and concealed in a passengers bag.
The most horrible about this is that this bag had been onboard the aircraft for 24 hours without ANYBODY had discovered it taken into consideration that the cabin-crews ALWAYS are obligated to do a "security check" of the entire cabin before EVERY flight!! THIS COULD EASILY HAVE BEEN A BOMB!! The reason for why this happened is VERY simple: RYANAIR wants to save money and has therefore made the turnarounds between each flight to be MAXIMUM ONLY 25 MINUTES! This does NOT give the crews enough time to do their job satisfactory as they also VERY OFTEN are dead tired as they are forced to work to much! Second reason is that by offering such low cost tickets this airline will receive a LOT of passengers who belongs in the category "criminals, half-criminals, drug addicts/abusers & persons with severe behavior problems" as these category usually cannot afford the price of a regular airline-ticket. As the Schengen-Deal became valid these persons also have the opportunity to travel between the countries without being checked for passports or luggage!!
DRUNK CAPTAINS.
At the base in Hahn, Germany has several young First Officers who are very inexperienced, scared of losing their job and Ryanairs non-ethic & none moral reaction towards them self & with only 300-400 flying hours told other Captains that they have flown with the Base Captain in Hahn & other Captains out of this base who have showed up for flying duty & and performed this duties under influence &smelling alcohol after a nights party with just 2-3 hours sleep!
**** PILOTS & CABIN-CREWS.
Both pilots & cabin-crews are performing their duties when they are very ill because they do not dear to call in **** as Ryanair fires them directly if they are (in Ryanairs eyes!) absent too much from work just because of this reason!! Flying personnel has been fired after they have been absent from work only a few days!
This results also in extremely low safety factor as these pilots & cabin crews often are so **** when they are flying that their attention and concentration is below ANY standard.
ILLEGAL PERSONNEL WITHOUT VISAS.
In Hahn, Germany Ryanair stationed several Eastern-European pilots to work who they knew did not have any visa for Germany. These illegal personnel where working in Germany from February 2002 until at least May 2002
NO MEAL-BREAKES.
The working hours are so long and hard (pilots are flying 100:00 hours block in 28 days the whole time!)& the turnarounds between the flights so short (maximum 25 minutes!) that many of the cabin-crews do not have time to eat, and if they got some time they are forced to either stay and eat their food or sit on the floor in the pantry like dogs AS THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED TO SIT DOWN!
THE FEAR OF WORKERS UNIONS.
A pilots union or other unions does not exist in Ryanair. If somebody tries to start such a union will they be fired immediately.
In the last 7-8 months the company has "employed" very young and inexperienced copilots mostly from Holland. These pilots has paid their own Boeing 737 type rating and have huge bank loans! They had of course very little chance to get a job in an airline after the period of 11th of September 2001. Ryanair saw of course this and offered these persons a position where they had to sign a letter that they would NOT be a member of any pilot-union as long as they worked for Ryanair!
They are also working for a such low salary (if we can call it a salary!) that it is categorized slavery.
PSYCHOPATIC LEADERSHIP & ATHMOSPHERE.
Ryanair Administrator, Mr. O'Leary has every monday a meeting in the company's head quarter in Dublin with his sub-administrators. During this meetings Mr. O'Leary behaves very violent & abusive and physically throws bottles and chairs on the other individuals in the meeting-room!
This psychopatic tendencies by O'Leary goes like a red tread trough the company as the WHOLE system is run on the concept MANAGEMENT BY FEAR!! With other words is this company run by threatening and scaring their employees to do what the company tells them to do, IF NOT...
This results in that EVERYBODY are watching and reporting everybody, which again results in that operating personnel do work under constantly fear of saying something wrong or doing the smallest mistake!!
AS LITTLE FUEL AS POSSIBLE.
At the base in Stansted the Captains are NOT allowed to land with more than 3400kg of fuel in the tanks after a round trip to an other destination by the Base Captain. If it is discovered that the airplane has landed with more than the above described amount of fuel, the captain onboard receives a "warning letter" there it stays that this has been notified. If this Captain receives 3 letters like this he is subject to be fired!!!
LACKING SALARIES & SECTOR PAYMENTS.
Ryanair is constantly behind with the payment of salaries & sector payment to the flying personnel! EVERY month there are many pilots & cabin-crews who are subjects to this! The payments are always LESS than they should be & NEVER opposite!? Other expenses that employees personally has paid out on behalf of Ryanair & as following the company shall pay back to their employees asap. is delayed obviously in the hope that these poor persons shall give up the hard work of getting this money back or simply forget it!!
INCOME TAXES ARE FORCED TO BE PAYED IN IRELAND.
A lot of flying personnel is forced by Ryanair to pay their income tax to Ireland even if they are based and living in Germany Belgium, England etc.
It seems that Ryanair has bargained a deal with the Irish Authorities "underneath the table" that in order to be allowed to operate in that criminal manner they are doing without any questions the Irish State is receiving tax money from Ryanair's employees! This is economical crime and should also be investigated by EU and the respective countries involved!!
DIFFERENT SALARIES AMONG PERSONNEL.
Since the 11th of September 2001 Ryanair has employed several pilots, cabin crews and other personnel and has given them VERY low salaries compared to those who was employed before this date!
This results in the fact that for instance Captains are flying with copilots who are earning/receiving up to 30% more salary than the COMMANDER OF THE AIRCRAFT???!!!
SAVING MONEY TO ANY COST & IN ANY WAY.
The company is so short of personnel, both flying & non-flying personnel, just so they can save money, that EVERYBODY are constantly exhausted, tired & and in a bad mood, which again results in a constant rate of failure to perform the duties correctly among these persons!!
Ryanair employs personnel who are very young, inexperienced & and with extremely low salaries without giving them the proper training & time to perform their duty correct! These persons are VERY often set into sub- administrative positions where they OF COURSE are doing a lot of mistakes and again fired because of this! New inexperienced persons are set to do the same jobs & the same is happening again!! ALL OF THIS IN ORDER TO SAVE MONEY!!???
RYANAIR IS DESTROYING THE AVIATION MARKET.
Ryanair's criminal business structure creates misery and destroys the whole aviation market if this company is not stopped! The sequence of the destruction will most likely look like this
- Ryanair is creating a destructive and negative trend there highly educated pilots & other personnel with a lot of responsibility and hard work hanging on their shoulders are under-payed and degraded status vice which again results in lower ambitions and moral among effected persons & with this comes REDUCED SAFETY IN THE AIR!!!
a.. Other airlines and establishments are losing a lot of money,
b.. personnel is forced to quit their jobs because the airlines cannot afford to have them employed,
c.. families do get into financial difficulties and might end up losing their homes etc.
We do hope with the cooperation of the media, different unions and Official Authorities to put an end to Ryanairs destructive operations once and for all!!
I've flown with them in April out of Hahn and decided not to fly them again soon for some reasons.
Now if I see this (completely true or not - but some facts are so detailed that I doubt it is a complete fake) I'm shure that I won't fly them again.
But there remains one good thing for me: Other airlines (esp. LH) have to look into their often ridiculous fare structures and change them to the better.
Sounds like a bit of a hoax. I don't think "angry & frightened Ryanair pilots" would want to "put an end to Ryanairs destructive operations once and for all" - it would mean they'd lose their jobs. And believe it or not, the actual Ryanair pilots are amoung the highest-paid shorthaul pilots in Europe.
I know a lot of people (cabincrew), who work for LH or LTU and they´he told me, that drugs or alcohol between flights is nothing unusual.
There´s a quote among LH-staff (including pilots)that the strict limit "no alcohol within 24 hours before a flight" has been replaced by "just no alcohol within 24 meters from the plane".
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Eule: Woo-hoo -- bring them on to FMO! It would be a nice addition to the dozens of charter planes that are currently crowding the airport. :-)</font>
Well, yeah, if you arrive in the wee hours of the morning, to find the local soccer league chanting "Es gibt kein Bier auf Hawaii" while they head for Ibiza It is an interesting market, I'd say, actually 45'000 students in Muenster (WWU and University of Applied Sciences), and a substantial number in Osnabrück as well.
Mizu
(waiting for LH to dust off the third 747 which is supposed to take him to JFK, because the first two were kaputt)
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I Think EIndh (Dk their code) is not promoted, because its nearly always full. They dont even offer many of those very cheap seats, so i guess its loading very well, the airport reports the same (1 737 a day DOUBLES the pax-nr there!). Talks about a 2nd and 3d daily flite already on.
REPORT ABOUT RYANAIR
020617. REPORT ABOUT RYANAIR.
This is a typical hoax. If this would be serious, these guys ("pilots") would go with these problems to a union, a lawyer or a quality newspaper or a member of parliament and still stay anonym.
just a clever hoax - who may be interested in this stuff?
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by mick: REPORT ABOUT RYANAIR
020617. REPORT ABOUT RYANAIR.
This is a typical hoax. If this would be serious, these guys ("pilots") would go with these problems to a union, a lawyer or a quality newspaper or a member of parliament and still stay anonym.
just a clever hoax - who may be interested in this stuff?</font>
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Tim2008:
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Tim
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It sounds like one Disgruntled Ryanair employee. I'd be surprised if it were indeed a Pilot.
I'm still never going to fly them though. 28" pitch, no assigned seats, fly from STN, land in a town 100 miles away from where you want to go....
Regards,
Alex
[This message has been edited by alexwuk (edited 07-01-2002).]
It is an interesting market, I'd say, actually 45'000 students in Muenster (WWU and University of Applied Sciences), and a substantial number in Osnabrück as well. 
