Not sure, but could it also be that since LH has recently restricted F and C awards from their Star Alliance partners until T-14 days those same partners have reciprocal policies?
OP - As a general matter subject to some rate exceptions, in two-cabin domestic USA flying, the premium cabin is denominated F, not J. Why not do some research and make some proposals to M&M rather than the other way around.
Are you serious? It must be part of M/M service to point something like this out.
+3 - OP needs to do some homework first. It's a common error for people flying from Europe.
OP - As a general matter subject to some rate exceptions, in two-cabin domestic USA flying, the premium cabin is denominated F, not J. Why not do some research and make some proposals to M&M rather than the other way around.
Within North America:
Premium cabins on 2 class US are coded (O) first
Premium cabins on 2 class AC/UA are coded (I) business
Not only M&M charges (O) first for USAir domestics, AC's Aeroplan, and many others do as well, because of the (O) coding not (I)
Same problem is with Air China's domestics coded (O) in 2-cabin planes
Is it possible that the LH M&M agents are specifically searching for Business Class award space when the domestic UA / US flights to ANC have First and Economy Class only?
United is coded business since the merger for award purposes (I class). Even Aeroscam recognizes it so now. Only US is the problem now.
..As a general matter subject to some rate exceptions, in two-cabin domestic USA flying, the premium cabin is denominated F, not J. Why not do some research and make some proposals to M&M rather than the other way around.
The denomination is long gone on CO, it still exists somewhat on US. And a phone agent should see mixed availability and notify the customer about the options.
I have agree though that the LH agent quaility made a steeeeep drop since the grand reformation of the call centers. They are not equally non-empowered and catatonic as the CO agents. No match for say US or AA award mile desks.
I do not believe 'US is the problem now'. US codes it First as it is First. Full stop.
Those large seats in the front on domestic USAir planes are first class?
Really?
I must have missed the caviour, pyjamas and limo ride to the gate.....
Thats almost like Air Canada calling their cabin "Executive First" and United "BusinessFirst" for mediocre business class products.
Those large seats in the front on domestic USAir planes are first class?
Really?
I must have missed the caviour, pyjamas and limo ride to the gate.....
Thats almost like Air Canada calling their cabin "Executive First" and United "BusinessFirst" for mediocre business class products.
As big a joke as European carriers ( intra Europe) calling their cabins "Business Class".
Have spent the last 30 days trying to get C tickets for two from FRA to ANC in June 2013. I have been flexable over a period on 6 weeks for the exit dates. I have been flexable on departure airports and connecting hubs. I wouldeven have been willing to take an unattractive stop over to get the flights..... so far nothing!!!! Not a single option!!!
Lately many have been having similar experiences on routes that require flights from a partner - they are simply not being released. Therefore why are these airlineseven bothering with alliances if they see these as too much of a competitor?
Seriously? You can't get a UA award flight? No offense but you are obviously doing something wrong or M&M agents a morons (which seems more and more likely - never mind that you can't understand them many times anymore!)
Hallo everyone - yes I am aware of those different "classes" on United flights. However I have to take the agents word for it that they are looking for the correct option.
I have now officially given up after being told I can get on a waitlist even though I have no status!!!
Like others have said - you need to do your homework and find the flights you want.
I use the United search engine to find flights (you are looking for the blue saver seats) - it is a better tool than most but you need to search for sections at a time.
In my experience most reward engines will not give you acceptable but wild routings
Here is one way - try looking for FRA-ORD and then do a second search for ORD-ANC
For 4 June 13 - I found FRA-ORD (C or F) direct and ORD-PHX-ANC (in C)
On the return break it up the same way. ANC-Somewhere (US or Canada) and then search from there-FRA.
When you have your flights then spoon feed them to the phone agent.
