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Old Aug 28, 12, 3:24 am   #31
 
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I have a Z fare VCE-FRA-ORD next week. If a strike happens will I have some ability to suggest an alternative routing on another *A carrier of my choice, or must my choice be to accept what they offer or a refund? My concern is I must make the trip, but for what I paid I certainly wouldn't be happy if my only options were UA or US.
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Old Aug 28, 12, 3:42 am   #32
 
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I assume they will try and shift most of the cancellations to SH. Better switch my TXL-DUS flights to AB..
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Old Aug 28, 12, 3:50 am   #33
 
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Looks like no full scale walk out is imminent but the union announced that it would stage short term work stoppages on little or now notice. Reminds me of the Ground Worker strikes earlier this year.
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Old Aug 28, 12, 4:25 am   #34
 
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Still nothing on the LH website...
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Old Aug 28, 12, 5:13 am   #35
 
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Still nothing on the LH website...
on LH facebook profile:

Negotiations with UFO have broken down

We confirm that negotiations with UFO have broken down today. Although Lufthansa and UFO exchanged proposals for resolving the collective bargaining dispute until the end, the differing positions on core issues could not be reconciled.
At this time we do not yet have any information regarding the impact this will have on flights. We will keep you updated here on facebook as well as at www.lufthansa.com.
Lufthansa continues to focus on a comprehensive and forward-looking solution with UFO.


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Old Aug 28, 12, 5:36 am   #36
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It looks like LH was unwilling to make concessions on splitting of the regional A32S crew into a direct4U type operation, which UFO wants to retain in order to keep the life of LH classic/mainline crew comfortable.

http://www.ufo-online.com/flugbeglei...ansa&Itemid=53

If you read the above I doubt we will see strike action this week. Probably because they failed to keep the wage negotiations separate from the discussions on the future of LH mainline/direct4U staffing. On the wage discussions they can strike, mentioning the other topics as a reason may convince a court to declare the strike illegal.
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Old Aug 28, 12, 6:14 am   #37
 
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We fly out tomorrow with LH (layover in FRA and off to PHL) and sure hope there are no issues or delays! Wouldn't be a good start to our holiday!
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Old Aug 28, 12, 7:41 am   #38
 
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Does UFO represent all Lufthansa cabin crew?
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Old Aug 28, 12, 8:20 am   #39
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About two thirds, no exact figure is known, they keep it under wraps.
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Old Aug 28, 12, 8:36 am   #40
 
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About two thirds, no exact figure is known, they keep it under wraps.
So, then what is the difference between UFO and non-UFO union members?
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Old Aug 28, 12, 8:49 am   #41
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UFO is a union, FAs are either members or not. AFAIK no other union represents the cabin, ver.di is the union that leads the rest of the LH employees, VC represents pilots. During strike action union members strike and get paid by the union. In case of legal action against employee for refusing to work, the union helps out. You need to pay >0.5% of you gross income to be a member of the union.
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Old Aug 28, 12, 8:52 am   #42
 
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Ok, thanks.

If UFO is the only FA union at LH, then the strike will affect all flights, not just shorthaul ones.

Good to know
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Old Aug 28, 12, 9:02 am   #43
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It will affect LH mainline, so LH will cancel feeder flights and use the crews that report to work to operate the longhaul. The regional LH carriers (CL/IQ/EN/EW/etc) should operate normally.
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Old Aug 28, 12, 10:04 am   #44
 
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Question is, will this be deemed "extraordinary circumstance" under EU 261?
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Old Aug 28, 12, 10:05 am   #45
 
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Question is, will this be deemed "extraordinary circumstance" under EU 261?
A German court seems to think so and may give LH the out.
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