Yes, LH is putting a new F into the A380 and potentially looks at retrofitting the Airbuses. A search will bring up the threads with all the details we "know" so far.
The information/rumors on new F can be found in the M&M guide sticky in this forum as well (Post #3 IIRC).
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Mr Mayrhuber confirmed that the first bird will fly to JFK. That might gonna happen in June. Next bird in July could fly to JNB. Third destination might be PVG. NRT might go A380 in March 2011...
The second and third destinations are rumoured to be JHB and PVG.
EXPO in Shanghai starts May 1, World Cup in S.A. starts in June with finals in July.
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Mr Mayrhuber confirmed that the first bird will fly to JFK. That might gonna happen in June. Next bird in July could fly to JNB. Third destination might be PVG. NRT might go A380 in March 2011...
FWIW Mr Mayrhuber mentioned NRT and PVG before JNB during the MegaDo.
FWIW Mr Mayrhuber mentioned NRT and PVG before JNB during the MegaDo.
They can't send the second bird to JNB, because one bird is not enough for this route. The third bird comes too late for the world cup and other than the world cup it is low (winter) season on South Africa.
PVG having the Expo makes much more sense to me as a summer destination.
But the third bird is scheduled end of July. The world cup will be history then, the Expo not. In particular August and September are most popular travel month.
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The same applies to NRT and PVG.
Yes, but the NRT and PVG routes see the aircraft turned around in about two hours, so 1 aircraft is not enough by only a few hours per day (and once you have two, you can alternate them between JFK and NRT/PVG to make up the extra time). The flight to NRT leaves at 13:35 and the aircraft is scheduled to be back in FRA at 14:15 the next day, just under 25 hours later. That's not too bad.
At JNB, the aircraft spends an entire day sitting on the tarmac. After a 22:35 departure at FRA, arrival at JNB is around 10am, the flight back to FRA departs at 20:00, arriving FRA at 05:25. That is almost 31 hours, which is too much for it to be combined with a daily JFK roundtrip.
Given this, I could see LH going with this schedule once the second aircraft arrives:
And so on, basically a ping-pong FRA-NRT-FRA-JFK-FRA-NRT-FRA-JFK-FRA... for each aircraft. It's a little tight in terms of turnarounds for the NRT flight, but for a few weeks it should be sustainable.
Obviously, one of the flights cannot be daily A380 service, because the aircraft will have to go in for maintenance at some point. But I think this is a decent base to start from.
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Thanks, alex0683de. This was going to be my next project but you've done the work for me. I've certainly noticed the FRA-NRT-FRA-JFK-FRA rotation in the past.
AFAIK LH401 is more popular than LH405, though. Not sure about LH400 vs LH404. Will LH try to attract more pax to fly LH404/405 by introducing A380?
From a marketing point of view would it not make sense to use the A380 for the duration of the worldcup to Jo'burg? The demand would certainly be there.
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Thanks, alex0683de. This was going to be my next project but you've done the work for me. I've certainly noticed the FRA-NRT-FRA-JFK-FRA rotation in the past.
AFAIK LH401 is more popular than LH405, though. Not sure about LH400 vs LH404. Will LH try to attract more pax to fly LH404/405 by introducing A380?
You're welcome.
I also think LH400/LH401 would make a better prospect if seen on its own, but the timings do not work as well with other longhaul destinations once more aircraft arrive.
We'll see what LH decides. The timetable above is just a guess on my part.
Perhaps at some point in the future LH will even go double-daily A380 to JFK, especially if they manage to actually do something with that JetBlue investment they hold. Time will tell.
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In particular August and September are most popular travel month.
I've certainly noticed the FRA-NRT-FRA-JFK-FRA rotation in the past.
