ITA Software Fare Construction
Oct 24, 2007, 2:17 pm
#31
Join Date: May 2007
Location: ORD, DEL
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Where did you find it? If Orbitz or AA.com, buy from them! If ITA, well you know the routine, but if it is good you should buy before it slips away. If it involves LAN, you can buy from them and probably from AA reservations too (better to call, with exact dates and flights; AA charges $10 for issuing the ticket, well worth it).
Oct 24, 2007, 2:37 pm
#32
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Location: DEN
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What is not permitted at all is buying two tickets to get around minimum stay rules. IE You fly ORD-SAN every week out on MON, back on Thur. You want a "Saturday night stay required" fare so buy ORD-SAN this Mon, back next Thur and a separate ticket SAN-ORD on Thur back on Mon next week. This is not allowed.
May 22, 2008, 9:39 am
#33
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Join Date: May 2001
Location: YVR
Programs: AC SEMM
Posts: 2,072
Interested in knowing what portion of a total fare do the other airlines receive on a 'through fare' when a mix of airlines are involved in the routing.
The following is an AC fare VOMSHWES YVR-BCN but includes flights on AC YVR-YYC-FRA, AC(LH) FRA-YVR, LH FRA-BCN and JK(LH) BCN-FRA.
YVR AC X/YYC AC X/FRA LH BCN 943.24V0MSHWES JK X/FRA AC YVR 902.67V0MSHXES NUC 1845.91 END ROE 0.98596 FARE CAD 1820.00 EQU USD 1836.00 XT 17.20CA 15.10SQ 0.80XG 10.40DE 36.40RA 6.90JD 2.50QV 356.90YQ
Total base fare is NUC 1845.91 Plus the various taxes and surcharges.
Is there a standard rule for the division of the total fare? Or is it negotiated on a route by route basis?
The following is an AC fare VOMSHWES YVR-BCN but includes flights on AC YVR-YYC-FRA, AC(LH) FRA-YVR, LH FRA-BCN and JK(LH) BCN-FRA.
YVR AC X/YYC AC X/FRA LH BCN 943.24V0MSHWES JK X/FRA AC YVR 902.67V0MSHXES NUC 1845.91 END ROE 0.98596 FARE CAD 1820.00 EQU USD 1836.00 XT 17.20CA 15.10SQ 0.80XG 10.40DE 36.40RA 6.90JD 2.50QV 356.90YQ
Total base fare is NUC 1845.91 Plus the various taxes and surcharges.
Is there a standard rule for the division of the total fare? Or is it negotiated on a route by route basis?
May 22, 2008, 11:27 am
#34
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http://www.iata.org/ps/publications/pmp.htm
http://www.iata.org/training/courses/talf07
But, as a general rule, the 'over-water' carrier gets to keep most of the fare...
May 22, 2008, 1:11 pm
#35
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It's a complex matter and is a combination of both. The set of "standard rules" is the size of an encyclopedia:
http://www.iata.org/ps/publications/pmp.htm
http://www.iata.org/training/courses/talf07
But, as a general rule, the 'over-water' carrier gets to keep most of the fare...
http://www.iata.org/ps/publications/pmp.htm
http://www.iata.org/training/courses/talf07
But, as a general rule, the 'over-water' carrier gets to keep most of the fare...
Sep 5, 2017, 6:08 am
#36
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: LTN
Programs: Aeroflot Bonus, British Airways Executive Club
Posts: 463
I bought a ticket from an OTA for HKG-PEK round trip and my itinerary contained the following line and I found it unreasonable:
HKG CA BJS 412.72Y1RT9 CA HKG 412.73Y1RT9 NUC825.45END ROE7.76544 XT 45I5103CN
Taxes: HKD 90G3 120HK 148XT
According to the information given in this thread, this means the ticket was issued at a fare basis Y1RT9 and the fare was NUC825.45, which is equivalent to HKD 6409.98 according to the ROE given above.
However, I got this ticket at only about HKD 1400 including taxes, and I validated it thru Air China official website and found it to be class T (heavily discounted economy), not class Y (economy), but the fare shown is also HKD 6410, which is actually the full Y fare and matches the line contained on the itinerary. What's happened actually?
Note that I didn't take the outbound segment of the flight on this itinerary, and for the return segment, I was upgraded to class E at check-in.
HKG CA BJS 412.72Y1RT9 CA HKG 412.73Y1RT9 NUC825.45END ROE7.76544 XT 45I5103CN
Taxes: HKD 90G3 120HK 148XT
According to the information given in this thread, this means the ticket was issued at a fare basis Y1RT9 and the fare was NUC825.45, which is equivalent to HKD 6409.98 according to the ROE given above.
However, I got this ticket at only about HKD 1400 including taxes, and I validated it thru Air China official website and found it to be class T (heavily discounted economy), not class Y (economy), but the fare shown is also HKD 6410, which is actually the full Y fare and matches the line contained on the itinerary. What's happened actually?
Note that I didn't take the outbound segment of the flight on this itinerary, and for the return segment, I was upgraded to class E at check-in.
Last edited by miklcct; Sep 6, 2017 at 10:40 am
Sep 7, 2017, 12:05 pm
#37
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 19
Is there an ITA aide memoire anywhere?
Just noticed that itasoftware.com now displays Fare construction details as follows:
Fare construction (sometimes useful to travel agents):
LON MX X/CHI MX MEX 445.42WHAP1MGB MX X/CHI MX LON 445.42WHAP1MGB NUC 890.84 END ROE 0.518602 FARE GBP 462.00 EQU CAD 995.00 XT 86.10GB 30.80UB 12.00YC 15.20XY 10.80XA 5.40AY 23.40UK 25.80XD 130.20YQ 0.90YR 4.90XF ORD4.50
Fare construction (sometimes useful to travel agents):
LON MX X/CHI MX MEX 445.42WHAP1MGB MX X/CHI MX LON 445.42WHAP1MGB NUC 890.84 END ROE 0.518602 FARE GBP 462.00 EQU CAD 995.00 XT 86.10GB 30.80UB 12.00YC 15.20XY 10.80XA 5.40AY 23.40UK 25.80XD 130.20YQ 0.90YR 4.90XF ORD4.50
Sep 2, 2021, 4:44 am
#38
Join Date: Sep 2021
Posts: 1
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