ITA Software Fare Construction
#16
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Alexandria VA, Washington, DC or Pick 5
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Most certainly a "more" competent TA could do it...but most are afraid of the dreaded debit memo from the airline/s
#17
Join Date: May 2007
Location: ORD, DEL
Programs: AA (Plt Pro; 1.5 MM)
Posts: 6,185
...NUC 1216.72 = NUC is the basic fare unit. It is the abbreviation for Neutral Unit of Construction. It is a fictitious currency equivalent in value to the United States Dollar (USD). An industry-wide term that carriers and governments use for fare construction purposes and air fare calculations. $1216.72 is the round trip fare
ROE 0.518602 = Rate of currency exchange
FARE GBP 631.00 = GB pounds fare
EQU USD 1252.00 = Equivalent USD amount...
ROE 0.518602 = Rate of currency exchange
FARE GBP 631.00 = GB pounds fare
EQU USD 1252.00 = Equivalent USD amount...
#18
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: NL
Programs: FB M&M AA Amex HH SPG and others
Posts: 1,929
#19
Company Representative - ITA Software
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Cambridge, MA
Posts: 362
Then GBP 631.00 is converted using BSR (Banker's Selling Rate) to USD 1252.00
The IROE are (generally) published quarterly, and the BSR are updated much more frequently (depends on the currencies, but generally at least weekly). So when the currencies drift apart, the exchange rates can get off by quite a bit.
#20
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Miami, Florida
Programs: Delta Silver, United, American
Posts: 21
Learning ITA - found flight, can't book!
I used ITA for the first time a couple of days ago and it is great! I found a fare with availability:
MIA-SCL-IPC with departure Jan. 17, 2008 and return from IPC on Jan. 28 - two flights each way with a 60hrs 25min layover in SCL.
MIA LA SCL S75.00 LA IPC Q105.00 M 629.50NLXSP494 LA X/SCL LA MIA
Q105.00 M 629.50NLXSP494 NUC 1544.00 END ROE 1.00 FARE USD 1544.00 XT 5.50YC 7.00XY 5.00XA 30.20US 2.50AY 21.20CL 30.00ZQ 4.50XF MIA4.50
for a total of $1649.90.
LAN won't refer me to their tariff desk, my local TA says no availability on the dates that ITA lists, and no similar fare appears on Expedia, etc., etc.
So, I'm anxious to use ITA - the search for low fares in a month period would be helpful. But if I can't book a fare I see, then ITA is less useful.
Anyone have additional hints on how to book fares that ITA shows or are ITA's results not always reliable?
MIA-SCL-IPC with departure Jan. 17, 2008 and return from IPC on Jan. 28 - two flights each way with a 60hrs 25min layover in SCL.
MIA LA SCL S75.00 LA IPC Q105.00 M 629.50NLXSP494 LA X/SCL LA MIA
Q105.00 M 629.50NLXSP494 NUC 1544.00 END ROE 1.00 FARE USD 1544.00 XT 5.50YC 7.00XY 5.00XA 30.20US 2.50AY 21.20CL 30.00ZQ 4.50XF MIA4.50
for a total of $1649.90.
LAN won't refer me to their tariff desk, my local TA says no availability on the dates that ITA lists, and no similar fare appears on Expedia, etc., etc.
So, I'm anxious to use ITA - the search for low fares in a month period would be helpful. But if I can't book a fare I see, then ITA is less useful.
Anyone have additional hints on how to book fares that ITA shows or are ITA's results not always reliable?
#21
Join Date: May 2007
Location: ORD, DEL
Programs: AA (Plt Pro; 1.5 MM)
Posts: 6,185
I used ITA for the first time a couple of days ago and it is great! I found a fare with availability: MIA-SCL-IPC with departure Jan. 17, 2008 and return from IPC on Jan. 28 - two flights each way with a 60hrs 25min layover in SCL...for a total of $1649.90.
LAN won't refer me to their tariff desk, my local TA says no availability on the dates that ITA lists, and no similar fare appears on Expedia, etc., etc.
So, I'm anxious to use ITA - the search for low fares in a month period would be helpful. But if I can't book a fare I see, then ITA is less useful.
Anyone have additional hints on how to book fares that ITA shows or are ITA's results not always reliable?
LAN won't refer me to their tariff desk, my local TA says no availability on the dates that ITA lists, and no similar fare appears on Expedia, etc., etc.
So, I'm anxious to use ITA - the search for low fares in a month period would be helpful. But if I can't book a fare I see, then ITA is less useful.
Anyone have additional hints on how to book fares that ITA shows or are ITA's results not always reliable?
Keep trying Orbitz, Travelocity, Vayama, Farecompare etc. According to Farecompare, fare for this route drops to as low as $1250 but available seats are around $2100 for your dates. Good luck
Last edited by aktchi; Oct 23, 2007 at 9:24 pm
#22
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: BRU
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SmilingBoy.
#23
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Bay Area (QSF), CA
Programs: (almost) everything!
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Try Orbitz. Several flight options are available.
Jan 17
LA507 MIA-SCL 19:05/05:04+1
Jan 20
LA833 SCL-IPC 18:05/21:25
Jan 28
LA834 IPC-SCL 11:45/18:25
LA5504 SCL-MIA 22:00/04:20+1
$1660.63 all-in (including service fee)
Jan 17
LA507 MIA-SCL 19:05/05:04+1
Jan 20
LA833 SCL-IPC 18:05/21:25
Jan 28
LA834 IPC-SCL 11:45/18:25
LA5504 SCL-MIA 22:00/04:20+1
$1660.63 all-in (including service fee)
#24
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: BRU
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SmilingBoy.
#25
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Bay Area (QSF), CA
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Edited: However, I agree with you. Sometimes ITA acts strange. Situation might have changed since the OP (orbweaver) posted.
Last edited by Tclin; Oct 24, 2007 at 2:31 am
#28
Join Date: May 2007
Location: ORD, DEL
Programs: AA (Plt Pro; 1.5 MM)
Posts: 6,185
We are all discovering that there is no single source which is so good that we can disregard all others. I usually check with ITA, Farecompare, Kayak, Orbitz, Vayama, websites of major airlines for that route, as well as a few travel agents specializing in that market!
It is frustrating at times that ITA does not deal with selling tickets, but again this is what makes them unbiased. Orbitz or AA.com, etc., while they may well offer the best option now and then, also have specific flights to push and no incentive to show others. I find ITA best for experimenting with unusual ideas, including or excluding specific routes and airlines. Farecompare and Zuji (Singapore) are good if time of travel has flexibility. Good luck.
It is frustrating at times that ITA does not deal with selling tickets, but again this is what makes them unbiased. Orbitz or AA.com, etc., while they may well offer the best option now and then, also have specific flights to push and no incentive to show others. I find ITA best for experimenting with unusual ideas, including or excluding specific routes and airlines. Farecompare and Zuji (Singapore) are good if time of travel has flexibility. Good luck.
#29
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Join Date: Oct 1999
Posts: 11,468
On a couple of "too good to be true fares" a preemptive quick check with airline rate desk assured him that the fare was ok for ticketing.
#30
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Miami, Florida
Programs: Delta Silver, United, American
Posts: 21
Thanks everyone for suggestions. I checked Orbitz and AA's own site and found a suitable fare from MIA-IPC - just a tad more than the ITA fare from yesterday - and a lot better dates for me. Clearly I need to find a new TA who is the "bring 'em on" type, though. Thanks a lot for everything I read here - I'm still learning a lot.