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Old May 6, 07, 6:29 pm   #1
 
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[FARE GONE] Orbitz - Ua Business Class Roundtrip Sfo-akl $1480.00 All In

Yup - Business Class On Orbitz For Ua Sfo-akl (auckland ,new Zealand) $1480.00 Appx. Roundtrip All In - All Dates Seem To Work - Don't Know The Rules - Somebody Can Post - Enjoy -
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Old May 6, 07, 6:34 pm   #2
 
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If this is at all possible, one leg is on NZ which won't give you bonus miles though it will give EQM.
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Old May 6, 07, 6:39 pm   #3
 
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Also appears to work out of LAX,

wanna pounce on this, is this refundable?
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Old May 6, 07, 6:45 pm   #4
 
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What fare does this book into?
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Old May 6, 07, 6:45 pm   #6
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I managed to find the fare - it's UA to Sydney, then EK, NZ, or QF SYD-AKL. Below is an itinerary I put together for Thanksgiving ($1476 all in).

I'm probably not going to book this but am very tempted...

Has anyone been able to look at the fare rules to see what booking code this books into?


Tuesday, November 27, 2007 Leave
United Airlines 863 Business Boeing 747 Dinner 14hr 32min 7436 miles
Depart: 10:18pm
evening San Francisco, CA
San Francisco International (SFO) 1 stop
Arrive: 7:50am
morning Sydney, Australia
Sydney Kingsford Smith (SYD)
Change Airline. Time between flights: 2hr 25min

Emirates 418 Business Boeing 777 Meal 3hr 0min 1356 miles
Depart: 10:15am
morning Sydney, Australia
Sydney Kingsford Smith (SYD)
Arrive: 3:15pm
afternoon Auckland, New Zealand
Auckland Jean Batten (AKL)
This flight arrives two days later.

Total duration: 19hr 57min Total miles: 8792 miles
Sunday, December 2, 2007 Return
Qantas Airways 164 Business Boeing 767 Breakfast 3hr 25min 1356 miles
Depart: 9:00am
morning Auckland, New Zealand
Auckland Jean Batten (AKL) 1 stop
Arrive: 10:25am
morning Sydney, Australia
Sydney Kingsford Smith (SYD)
Change Airline. Time between flights: 4hr 50min

United Airlines 870 Business Boeing 747 Dinner 13hr 27min 7436 miles
Depart: 3:15pm
afternoon Sydney, Australia
Sydney Kingsford Smith (SYD)
Arrive: 9:42am
morning San Francisco, CA
San Francisco International (SFO)
Total duration: 21hr 42min Total miles: 8792 miles
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Old May 6, 07, 6:46 pm   #7
 
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Books into C.
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Old May 6, 07, 6:48 pm   #8
 
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This is pretty cheap no? Im thinking a nice family trip for a week to NZ? How does that sound? Like 8 nights... [Dec 20-28]
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Old May 6, 07, 6:50 pm   #9
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Has anyone had any luck booking this ex-AKL for January 2008?
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Old May 6, 07, 6:51 pm   #10
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Updated thread Q&A
Quote:
Q: Can I add stopover?
A: No, unless you want the HIP (Higher Intermediate Point) check, that will trigger a re-price.

Q: Can I change dates?
A: We will have to wait and see how UA treats this. Maybe Yes, maybe Not. Maybe only inbound and not outbound.

Q: Is the fare upgradeable?
A: Yes, 1 SWU each way or 30k UA miles each way.

Q: Once you have upgraded with 30k miles can you cancel & redeposit if you had second thoughts, or do you have to cancel the flight?
A: You can, provided there's space to downgrade to (i.e. the C cabin is not full).
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Has anyone had any luck booking this ex-AKL for January 2008?
Not possible. One-way from SFO/LAX is possible.

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Stopovers
Will trigger a reprice per the Higher Intermediate Point Rule (HIP: see here
http://flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=316220)

Seats
No, they are not lieflat, but UA is planning on upgrading its biz class through
most likely not within the validity of these tickets.
http://www.seatguru.com/airlines/Uni...ng_747-400.php

Miles
for SFO-SYD-AKL-SFO routing: 17514 base miles (according to UA)
Airline COS Bonus: EQM RDM | EQMs RDMs
LH 100% 100% | 35028 35028
BD 100% 100% | 35028 35028
UA 50% 25% | 26271 21893

Complete fare rules from expertflyer
Code:
 Flying UA on booking class C

APPLICATION AND OTHER CONDITIONS 	
RULE - 003/5000 UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED NORMAL FARES APPLICATION AREA THESE
FARES APPLY BETWEEN THE UNITED STATES AND AREA 3. CLASS OF SERVICE THESE FARES
APPLY FOR FIRST/BUSINESS/ECONOMY CLASS SERVICE. TYPES OF TRANSPORTATION THIS
RULE GOVERNS ONE-WAY AND ROUND-TRIP FARES. FARES GOVERNED BY THIS RULE CAN BE
USED TO CREATE ONE-WAY/ROUND-TRIP/CIRCLE-TRIP/OPEN-JAW JOURNEYS. FOR TRAVEL
ORIGINATING IN JAPAN TO U.S.ONLY. FARES DESIGNATED AS FR/CR/YR APPLY TO RT AND
CT AND OJ TRANSPORTATION. FARES DESIGNATED AS F/C/Y APPLY TO OW TRANSPORTATION.
BETWEEN THE SOUTH PACIFIC AND THE US FROM THE SOUTH PACIFIC FOR
FOX/COX/YOX/FOXNZ/COXNZ /CNZ/YOXNZ/YNZ FARES- THESE FARES MAY BE DOUBLED FOR
ROUND TRIP CAPACITY LIMITATIONS NOT APPLICABLE TO FARES GOVERNED BY THIS RULE.
FLIGHT APPLICATION 	
BETWEEN THE UNITED STATES AND NEW ZEALAND FOR C- TYPE FARES THE FARE COMPONENT
MUST INCLUDE TRAVEL VIA EACH TRANSPACIFIC SECTOR ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY UA FLIGHT OPERATED BY UA.
STOPOVERS 	
FROM/TO THE UNITED STATES NOTE - GENERAL RULE DOES NOT APPLY UNLIMITED FREE
STOPOVERS PERMITTED.
TRANSFERS 	
FOR CNZ FARES 4 TRANSFERS PERMITTED ONLINE ON ANY CARRIER/INTERLINE. NOTE - PER
PRICING UNIT AND - UNLIMITED TRANSFERS PERMITTED TRANSFERS PERMITTED ONLINE ON
THE PUBLISHING CARRIER NONE IN JAPAN/KOREA, REPUBLIC OF/SOUTHEAST ASIA/ SOUTH
ASIAN SUBCONTINENT
PERMITTED COMBINATIONS 	
UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED END-ON-END PERMITTED. VALIDATE ALL FARE COMPONENTS.
TRAVEL MUST BE VIA POINT OF COMBINATION. ADD-ONS PERMITTED. OPEN JAWS/ROUND
TRIPS/CIRCLE TRIPS FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS -TO FORM
SINGLE OR DOUBLE OPEN JAWS/ROUND TRIPS/CIRCLE TRIPS. PROVIDED - COMBINATIONS ARE
WITH ANY FARE FOR ANY CARRIER IN ANY RULE IN ANY TARIFF.
SALES RESTRICTIONS 	
UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED TICKETS MAY BE ISSUED BY PTA. PTA CONSTITUTES
TICKETING.
PENALTIES 	
UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED CANCELLATIONS ANY TIME CANCELLATIONS PERMITTED.
CHANGES ANY TIME CHANGES PERMITTED.
CHILDREN DISCOUNTS 	
BETWEEN S.W. PACIFIC AND AREA 1 NOTE - GENERAL RULE DOES NOT APPLY 1ST THROUGH
3RD ACCOMPANIED CHILD UNDER 12 - CHARGE 75 PERCENT OF THE FARE. TICKETING CODE -
BASE FARE CODE PLUS CH. NOTE - THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT OF INFANTS OCCUPYING A SEAT
AND CHILDREN IN ANY COMBINATION IS 3 PER ADULT. OR - 4TH AND EACH ADDITIONAL
ACCOMPANIED CHILD UNDER 12 - NO DISCOUNT OR - INFANT UNDER 2 WITHOUT A SEAT -
CHARGE 10 PERCENT OF THE FARE. TICKETING CODE - BASE FARE CODE PLUS IN.
TOUR CONDUCTOR DISCOUNTS 	
UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED NOTE - DISCOUNTS APPLY. INFORMATION IS NOT AVAILABLE
AT THIS TIME...CONTACT CARRIER FOR DETAILS.
AGENT DISCOUNTS 	
UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED NOTE - DISCOUNTS APPLY. INFORMATION IS NOT AVAILABLE
AT THIS TIME. CONTACT CARRIER FOR DETAILS.
ALL OTHER DISCOUNTS 	
BETWEEN THE UNITED STATES AND S.W. PACIFIC FOR -NZ TYPE FARES NOTE - GENERAL
RULE DOES NOT APPLY NOTE - SENIOR CITIZEN DISCOUNT DOES NOT APPLY
VOLUNTARY CHANGES 	
UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED IN THE EVENT OF CHANGES TO TICKETED FLIGHTS BEFORE
DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY AND WITHIN TKT VALIDITY CERTAIN DOMESTIC REISSUE PROVISIONS
MAY BE OVERRIDDEN BY THOSE OF UA INTERNATIONAL FARES NO CHARGE OR HIGHEST FEE OF
ANY CHANGED FARE COMPONENT WITHIN PRICING UNIT - CATEGORY 19 DISCOUNT APPLIES
AND REPRICE USING CURRENTLY TKTD FARE PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS
ARE MET- 1. NO CHANGE TO 1ST FLIGHT COUPON/FARE BREAKS 2. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS
REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC 3. UA FARES ARE USED 4. PRIVATE TARIFFS
ARE INCLUDED 5. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET EXCEPT ADV RES-TKTG
6. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO DEPARTURE OF FARE COMPONENT OR
- REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED PROVIDED ALL OF THE
FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. NO CHANGE TO 1ST FLIGHT COUPON 2. WHEN NO INTL
COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC 3. UA FARES GOVERNED BY SAME
RULE ARE USED 4. PRIVATE TARIFFS ARE INCLUDED 5. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE
PROVISIONS ARE MET 6. VALIDATE ADVANCE RES REQUIREMENTS WHEN BOOKING DATE KNOWN
7. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO DEPARTURE OF FARE COMPONENT OR
- REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED PROVIDED ALL OF THE
FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. NO CHANGE TO 1ST FLIGHT COUPON 2. WHEN NO INTL
COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC 3. UA FARES ARE USED 4. PRIVATE
TARIFFS ARE INCLUDED 5. NEW TKT HAS EQUAL OR HIGHER VALUE THAN PREVIOUS TKT 6.
ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET 7. VALIDATE ADVANCE RES
REQUIREMENTS WHEN BOOKING DATE KNOWN 8. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT
DATE TO DEPARTURE OF FARE COMPONENT OR - REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT TODAY
PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN
- ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC 2. UA FARES ARE USED 3. PRIVATE TARIFFS ARE
INCLUDED 4. VALIDATE ADVANCE RES REQUIREMENTS WHEN BOOKING DATE KNOWN 5. ADV RES
IS MEASURED FROM REISSUE DATE TO DEPARTURE OF FARE COMPONENT WHEN CHANGE RESULTS
IN LOWER FARE SUBTRACT RESIDUAL FROM THE PENALTY THEN ADD-COLLECT/REFUND -
REFUND VIA ORIGINAL FORM OF PAYMENT ENDORSEMENT BOX- HIGHER NON-REF AMT AND NEW
ENDORSEMENTS. OR - AFTER DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY AND WITHIN TKT VALIDITY CERTAIN
DOMESTIC REISSUE PROVISIONS MAY BE OVERRIDDEN BY THOSE OF UA INTERNATIONAL FARES
NO CHARGE OR HIGHEST FEE OF ANY CHANGED FARE COMPONENT WITHIN PRICING UNIT -
CATEGORY 19 DISCOUNT APPLIES AND REPRICE USING CURRENTLY TKTD FARE PROVIDED ALL
OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. NO CHANGE TO FARE BREAKS 2. WHEN NO INTL
COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC 3. FULLY FLOWN FARE NOT
REPRICED TO FURTHER POINT 4. UA FARES ARE USED 5. PRIVATE TARIFFS ARE INCLUDED
6. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET EXCEPT ADV RES-TKTG 7. ADV RES
IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO DEPARTURE OF FARE COMPONENT OR - REPRICE
USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING
CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE
DOMESTIC 2. FULLY FLOWN FARE NOT REPRICED TO FURTHER POINT 3. UA FARES GOVERNED
BY SAME RULE ARE USED 4. PRIVATE TARIFFS ARE INCLUDED 5. ALL RULE AND BOOKING
CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET 6. VALIDATE ADVANCE RES REQUIREMENTS WHEN BOOKING DATE
KNOWN 7. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO DEPARTURE OF FARE
COMPONENT OR - REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED PROVIDED ALL OF
THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW
TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC 2. FULLY FLOWN FARE NOT REPRICED TO FURTHER POINT 3. UA
FARES ARE USED 4. PRIVATE TARIFFS ARE INCLUDED 5. NEW TKT HAS EQUAL OR HIGHER
VALUE THAN PREVIOUS TKT 6. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET 7.
VALIDATE ADVANCE RES REQUIREMENTS WHEN BOOKING DATE KNOWN 8. ADV RES IS MEASURED
FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO DEPARTURE OF FARE COMPONENT WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN
LOWER FARE SUBTRACT RESIDUAL FROM THE PENALTY THEN ADD-COLLECT/REFUND - REFUND
VIA ORIGINAL FORM OF PAYMENT ENDORSEMENT BOX- HIGHER NON-REF AMT AND NEW
ENDORSEMENTS. OR - BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY AND WITHIN TKT VALIDITY CERTAIN
DOMESTIC REISSUE PROVISIONS MAY BE OVERRIDDEN BY THOSE OF UA INTERNATIONAL FARES
NO CHARGE OR HIGHEST FEE OF ANY CHANGED FARE COMPONENT WITHIN PRICING UNIT -
CATEGORY 19 DISCOUNT APPLIES AND REPRICE USING CURRENT FARES - ONLY BOOKING CODE
CHANGES PERMITTED PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. NO CHANGE
TO FARE BREAKS 2. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC
3. CHANGE IS BEFORE ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT 4. UA FARES ARE USED 5. PRIVATE
TARIFFS ARE INCLUDED 6. VALIDATE ADVANCE RES REQUIREMENTS WHEN BOOKING DATE
KNOWN 7. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM REISSUE DATE TO DEPARTURE OF FARE COMPONENT
WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN LOWER FARE SUBTRACT RESIDUAL FROM THE PENALTY THEN
ADD-COLLECT/REFUND - REFUND VIA ORIGINAL FORM OF PAYMENT ENDORSEMENT BOX- HIGHER
NON-REF AMOUNT.
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Old May 6, 07, 6:52 pm   #11
 
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its on united.bomb also

Fare Basis:

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Old May 6, 07, 6:52 pm   #12
 
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ITA has the class listed as CNZ
but cannot pull up any fare rules

If this is refundable, I m all over this for next winter
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Old May 6, 07, 6:52 pm   #13
 
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Man, if UA does its Double EQM promo later this year, you're talking a mighty one-two punch. Tis tempting indeed.
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Old May 6, 07, 6:53 pm   #14
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Refundable???

It it refundable????
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Old May 6, 07, 6:55 pm   #15
 
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It it refundable????

Yes.
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