Jan 21, 2015, 10:55 am
Last edit by: hillrider
Here are some more hidden features of the ITA software.
The extensions to the itasoftware routing language are accessed by postpending commands after a '/'. There's a wide set of commands available, but there's no description of them available on the ITA web site. Unfortunately, each command applies only to one part of the trip, so they must usually be entered in each box.
EXCLUDE SPECIFIC AIRLINES
Command is "-airlines XX ..."
Ex: prohibit jetBlue or Delta
from: BOS ::/ -airlines B6 DL
to: LAX ::/ -airlines B6 DL
LIMIT TO SPECIFIC AIRLINES
Command is "airlines XX ..."
Ex: consider only jetBlue or Delta
from: BOS ::/ airlines B6 DL
to: LAX ::/ airlines B6 DL
LIMIT TO A SINGLE ALLIANCE
Command is "alliance star-alliance|oneworld|skyteam"
Ex: oneworld carriers only
from: BOS ::/ alliance oneworld
to: LAX ::/ alliance oneworld
EXCLUDE CODESHARES
Command is "-codeshare"
Ex: prohibit jetBlue or Delta
from: BOS ::/ -codeshare
to: LAX ::/ -codeshare
LIMIT DURATION OF ITINERARY, IN MINUTES
Command is "maxdur XXX"
Ex: no more than 5hrs for each part of trip
from: BOS ::/ maxdur 300
to: LAX ::/ maxdur 300
EXCLUDE OVERNIGHT STOPS, AIRPORT CHANGES, REDEYES, PROPELLER PLANES, TRAINS, HELICOPTERS, ANY KIND OF SURFACE TRAVEL
Commands are "-overnight", "-change", "-redeye", "-prop", "-train", "-helicopter", "-surface"
Ex: no overnight stops, no airport changes, no redeyes, no propeller planes
from: BOS ::/ -overnight, -change, -redeye, -prop
to: LAX ::/ -overnight, -change, -redeye, -prop
SET MINIMUM OR MAXIMUM TIME FOR CONNECTIONS, IN MINUTES
Commands are "minconnect XX", "maxconnect XX"
Ex: no less than one hour, no more than two hour connections
from: BOS ::/ minconnect 60, maxconnect 120
to: LAX ::/ minconnect 60, maxconnect 120
EXTRA CONNECTION TIME
Command is "padconnect XX"
Ex: require at least 20 minutes more than airline specified minimum connection time
from: BOS ::/ padconnect 20
to: LAX ::/ padconnect 20
PUTTING LOTS OF THINGS TOGETHER
Separate with commas.
Ex:
from: BOS :: UA UA / f bc=l|bc=y, -redeye, -prop
to: LAX :: UA+ / f ua.bos+lax.yup, padconnect 20, -overnight
The extensions to the itasoftware routing language are accessed by postpending commands after a '/'. There's a wide set of commands available, but there's no description of them available on the ITA web site. Unfortunately, each command applies only to one part of the trip, so they must usually be entered in each box.
EXCLUDE SPECIFIC AIRLINES
Command is "-airlines XX ..."
Ex: prohibit jetBlue or Delta
from: BOS ::/ -airlines B6 DL
to: LAX ::/ -airlines B6 DL
LIMIT TO SPECIFIC AIRLINES
Command is "airlines XX ..."
Ex: consider only jetBlue or Delta
from: BOS ::/ airlines B6 DL
to: LAX ::/ airlines B6 DL
LIMIT TO A SINGLE ALLIANCE
Command is "alliance star-alliance|oneworld|skyteam"
Ex: oneworld carriers only
from: BOS ::/ alliance oneworld
to: LAX ::/ alliance oneworld
EXCLUDE CODESHARES
Command is "-codeshare"
Ex: prohibit jetBlue or Delta
from: BOS ::/ -codeshare
to: LAX ::/ -codeshare
LIMIT DURATION OF ITINERARY, IN MINUTES
Command is "maxdur XXX"
Ex: no more than 5hrs for each part of trip
from: BOS ::/ maxdur 300
to: LAX ::/ maxdur 300
EXCLUDE OVERNIGHT STOPS, AIRPORT CHANGES, REDEYES, PROPELLER PLANES, TRAINS, HELICOPTERS, ANY KIND OF SURFACE TRAVEL
Commands are "-overnight", "-change", "-redeye", "-prop", "-train", "-helicopter", "-surface"
Ex: no overnight stops, no airport changes, no redeyes, no propeller planes
from: BOS ::/ -overnight, -change, -redeye, -prop
to: LAX ::/ -overnight, -change, -redeye, -prop
SET MINIMUM OR MAXIMUM TIME FOR CONNECTIONS, IN MINUTES
Commands are "minconnect XX", "maxconnect XX"
Ex: no less than one hour, no more than two hour connections
from: BOS ::/ minconnect 60, maxconnect 120
to: LAX ::/ minconnect 60, maxconnect 120
EXTRA CONNECTION TIME
Command is "padconnect XX"
Ex: require at least 20 minutes more than airline specified minimum connection time
from: BOS ::/ padconnect 20
to: LAX ::/ padconnect 20
PUTTING LOTS OF THINGS TOGETHER
Separate with commas.
Ex:
from: BOS :: UA UA / f bc=l|bc=y, -redeye, -prop
to: LAX :: UA+ / f ua.bos+lax.yup, padconnect 20, -overnight
TIP: More hidden features of ITA
Mar 20, 2017, 4:34 am
#511
Join Date: May 2007
Location: ORD, DEL
Programs: AA (Plt Pro; 1.5 MM)
Posts: 6,185
Apr 24, 2017, 11:41 am
#515
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: NYC
Programs: DL ✈️
Posts: 638
Select from the dropdown "Business Class or Higher"
Apr 24, 2017, 11:43 am
#516
Join Date: Mar 2016
Posts: 288
LOL wow that is easy,,, I kept thinking the hard way, thanks alot !!!
Althought it does not fit exactly my condition, in a multi trip search, I am looking for trip 1 and 2 for business or higher, and trip 3 in economy
Althought it does not fit exactly my condition, in a multi trip search, I am looking for trip 1 and 2 for business or higher, and trip 3 in economy
Last edited by hondaman82; Apr 24, 2017 at 11:52 am
Apr 24, 2017, 11:49 am
#517
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Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: London
Programs: Mucci. Nothing else matters.
Posts: 38,644
If you're ever in a situation in which you do have to do it the hard way, then AFAIK there is no alternative to finding out which booking classes are used by your chosen airline for business class, and then adjusting the code as necessary.
May 17, 2017, 9:50 am
#519
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: YHZ
Posts: 281
URGENT!!! ITA Problem?
I am looking for fares between YHZ-LHR/LGW right now, for June 5-6 to June 13.
Giving ITA a range of dates, from the end of May, I get, in the calendar, on my dates, $169 USD. When I click on it, the fares come up in the $3-4,000 range for all the airlines.
Anyone else noticed, or can replicate, this??
Giving ITA a range of dates, from the end of May, I get, in the calendar, on my dates, $169 USD. When I click on it, the fares come up in the $3-4,000 range for all the airlines.
Anyone else noticed, or can replicate, this??
May 17, 2017, 10:20 am
#520
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: 6km East of EPAYE
Programs: UA Silver, AA Platinum, AS & DL GM Marriott TE, Hilton Gold
Posts: 9,582
Try using Google Flights - they run off the same data.
I have seen this numerous times where ITA calendar will show some crazy low price but it does not come up when you select dates. Just a glitch, there isn't really a $169 fare out there..................or is there
Update: I looked and can not duplicate the glitch FYI.
I have seen this numerous times where ITA calendar will show some crazy low price but it does not come up when you select dates. Just a glitch, there isn't really a $169 fare out there..................or is there
Update: I looked and can not duplicate the glitch FYI.
May 17, 2017, 9:41 pm
#522
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Vancouver / Bellingham
Programs: aeroplan continental
Posts: 12
always problems booking flights i find on ITA Matrix?
Flying YVR to HGH, no problem booking, returning I wanted to fly PVG YVR with a layover(HKG / minconnect 1200) on the return. Even a travel agent I talked to cannot get this without price rising dramatically. Is there any sites where you can book these flights (without changing return into 2 flights)?
for the techies, below is the exact flight.
(I did check ITA again and it shows the same price as originally)
Thanks,
Peter
Vancouver (YVR) to Hangzhou (HGH) — Wed, Jul 5
Vancouver (YVR) to Hong Kong (HKG) — Wed, Jul 5
Hong Kong Airlines 81
Dep: 12:10 pm
Arr: 4:50 pm
13h 40m
Airbus A330
Economy (V)
Layover in HKG
Thu, Jul 6
4h 15m
Hong Kong (HKG) to Hangzhou (HGH) — Thu, Jul 6
Hong Kong Airlines 128
Dep: 9:05 pm
Arr: 11:35 pm
2h 30m
Airbus A320
Economy (V)
Shanghai (PVG) to Vancouver (YVR) — Mon, Jul 17
Shanghai (PVG) to Hong Kong (HKG) — Mon, Jul 17
Hong Kong Airlines 237
Dep: 11:55 am
Arr: 2:45 pm
2h 50m
Airbus A330
Economy (Q)
Layover in HKG
21h 45m
Hong Kong (HKG) to Vancouver (YVR) — Tue, Jul 18
Hong Kong Airlines 80
Dep: 12:30 pm
Arr: 10:10 am
12h 40m
Airbus A330
Economy (Q)
Inline image 8
Mileage
•14,214 total miles
CO2 Emissions
•2,296 kg (estimated by ITA).
Airport Information
•Vancouver International (YVR)
•Hangzhou Xiaoshan International (HGH)
•Shanghai Pudong International (PVG)
•Hong Kong International (HKG)
Cost per passenger (including taxes & fees)
CA$834.11
Total cost for 1 passenger
CA$834.11
Provide this information to a travel agent to help them match the fares found.
Make sure to provide the exact booking and fare codes shown.
Fare for 1 adult
Fare 1: Carrier HX V6MCA21W YVR to HGH (rules)
Passenger type ADT, round trip fare, booking code V
Covers YVR-HKG (Economy), HKG-HGH (Economy)
CA$224.50
Fare 2: Carrier HX Q6MCA21W SHA to YVR (rules)
Covers PVG-HKG (Economy), HKG-YVR (Economy)
CA$362.50
Hong Kong Airport Construction Fee (G3)
CA$40.40
Hong Kong Airport Passenger Security Charge (I5)
CA$15.80
HX YR surcharge (YR)
CA$105.20
Vancouver Airport Improvement Fee (SQ)
CA$20.00
Canadian Goods and Services Tax (XG)
CA$1.00
Canadian Air Travelers Security Charge (CA)
CA$25.91
Hong Kong Air Passenger Departure Tax (HK)
CA$21.00
China Airport Fee (CN)
CA$17.80
CA$834.11
Subtotal For 1 adult
CA$834.11
Fare Construction (can be useful to travel agents)
YVR HX X/HKG HX HGH 166.88V6MCA21W /-SHA HX X/HKG HX YVR 269.47Q6MCA21W NUC 436.35 END ROE 1.34521 XT 25.91CA 20.00SQ 1.00XG 40.40G3 21.00HK 15.80I5 17.80CN 105.20YR
Total Airfare & Taxes
CA$834.11
for the techies, below is the exact flight.
(I did check ITA again and it shows the same price as originally)
Thanks,
Peter
Vancouver (YVR) to Hangzhou (HGH) — Wed, Jul 5
Vancouver (YVR) to Hong Kong (HKG) — Wed, Jul 5
Hong Kong Airlines 81
Dep: 12:10 pm
Arr: 4:50 pm
13h 40m
Airbus A330
Economy (V)
Layover in HKG
Thu, Jul 6
4h 15m
Hong Kong (HKG) to Hangzhou (HGH) — Thu, Jul 6
Hong Kong Airlines 128
Dep: 9:05 pm
Arr: 11:35 pm
2h 30m
Airbus A320
Economy (V)
Shanghai (PVG) to Vancouver (YVR) — Mon, Jul 17
Shanghai (PVG) to Hong Kong (HKG) — Mon, Jul 17
Hong Kong Airlines 237
Dep: 11:55 am
Arr: 2:45 pm
2h 50m
Airbus A330
Economy (Q)
Layover in HKG
21h 45m
Hong Kong (HKG) to Vancouver (YVR) — Tue, Jul 18
Hong Kong Airlines 80
Dep: 12:30 pm
Arr: 10:10 am
12h 40m
Airbus A330
Economy (Q)
Inline image 8
Mileage
•14,214 total miles
CO2 Emissions
•2,296 kg (estimated by ITA).
Airport Information
•Vancouver International (YVR)
•Hangzhou Xiaoshan International (HGH)
•Shanghai Pudong International (PVG)
•Hong Kong International (HKG)
Cost per passenger (including taxes & fees)
CA$834.11
Total cost for 1 passenger
CA$834.11
Provide this information to a travel agent to help them match the fares found.
Make sure to provide the exact booking and fare codes shown.
Fare for 1 adult
Fare 1: Carrier HX V6MCA21W YVR to HGH (rules)
Passenger type ADT, round trip fare, booking code V
Covers YVR-HKG (Economy), HKG-HGH (Economy)
CA$224.50
Fare 2: Carrier HX Q6MCA21W SHA to YVR (rules)
Covers PVG-HKG (Economy), HKG-YVR (Economy)
CA$362.50
Hong Kong Airport Construction Fee (G3)
CA$40.40
Hong Kong Airport Passenger Security Charge (I5)
CA$15.80
HX YR surcharge (YR)
CA$105.20
Vancouver Airport Improvement Fee (SQ)
CA$20.00
Canadian Goods and Services Tax (XG)
CA$1.00
Canadian Air Travelers Security Charge (CA)
CA$25.91
Hong Kong Air Passenger Departure Tax (HK)
CA$21.00
China Airport Fee (CN)
CA$17.80
CA$834.11
Subtotal For 1 adult
CA$834.11
Fare Construction (can be useful to travel agents)
YVR HX X/HKG HX HGH 166.88V6MCA21W /-SHA HX X/HKG HX YVR 269.47Q6MCA21W NUC 436.35 END ROE 1.34521 XT 25.91CA 20.00SQ 1.00XG 40.40G3 21.00HK 15.80I5 17.80CN 105.20YR
Total Airfare & Taxes
CA$834.11
May 18, 2017, 9:36 am
#524
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: PDX
Programs: AA Plat, Nexus
Posts: 358
GF and matrix are not always accurate. I just spent a few days chasing a phantom AA fare PDX-YUL. I finally managed to get it about halfway between google flights and the price that appeared when clicking through.
Your particular trip, I can find something close, leaving and returning one day later, for 973CAD. That's searching on HK Air's website.
Your particular trip, I can find something close, leaving and returning one day later, for 973CAD. That's searching on HK Air's website.
May 18, 2017, 10:19 am
#525
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: ARN
Programs: Bit of this, bit of that
Posts: 454
Flying YVR to HGH, no problem booking, returning I wanted to fly PVG YVR with a layover(HKG / minconnect 1200) on the return. Even a travel agent I talked to cannot get this without price rising dramatically. Is there any sites where you can book these flights (without changing return into 2 flights)?
for the techies, below is the exact flight.
(I did check ITA again and it shows the same price as originally)
Thanks,
Peter
Vancouver (YVR) to Hangzhou (HGH) — Wed, Jul 5
Vancouver (YVR) to Hong Kong (HKG) — Wed, Jul 5
Hong Kong Airlines 81
Dep: 12:10 pm
Arr: 4:50 pm
13h 40m
Airbus A330
Economy (V)
Layover in HKG
Thu, Jul 6
4h 15m
Hong Kong (HKG) to Hangzhou (HGH) — Thu, Jul 6
Hong Kong Airlines 128
Dep: 9:05 pm
Arr: 11:35 pm
2h 30m
Airbus A320
Economy (V)
Shanghai (PVG) to Vancouver (YVR) — Mon, Jul 17
Shanghai (PVG) to Hong Kong (HKG) — Mon, Jul 17
Hong Kong Airlines 237
Dep: 11:55 am
Arr: 2:45 pm
2h 50m
Airbus A330
Economy (Q)
Layover in HKG
21h 45m
Hong Kong (HKG) to Vancouver (YVR) — Tue, Jul 18
Hong Kong Airlines 80
Dep: 12:30 pm
Arr: 10:10 am
12h 40m
Airbus A330
Economy (Q)
Inline image 8
Mileage
•14,214 total miles
CO2 Emissions
•2,296 kg (estimated by ITA).
Airport Information
•Vancouver International (YVR)
•Hangzhou Xiaoshan International (HGH)
•Shanghai Pudong International (PVG)
•Hong Kong International (HKG)
Cost per passenger (including taxes & fees)
CA$834.11
Total cost for 1 passenger
CA$834.11
for the techies, below is the exact flight.
(I did check ITA again and it shows the same price as originally)
Thanks,
Peter
Vancouver (YVR) to Hangzhou (HGH) — Wed, Jul 5
Vancouver (YVR) to Hong Kong (HKG) — Wed, Jul 5
Hong Kong Airlines 81
Dep: 12:10 pm
Arr: 4:50 pm
13h 40m
Airbus A330
Economy (V)
Layover in HKG
Thu, Jul 6
4h 15m
Hong Kong (HKG) to Hangzhou (HGH) — Thu, Jul 6
Hong Kong Airlines 128
Dep: 9:05 pm
Arr: 11:35 pm
2h 30m
Airbus A320
Economy (V)
Shanghai (PVG) to Vancouver (YVR) — Mon, Jul 17
Shanghai (PVG) to Hong Kong (HKG) — Mon, Jul 17
Hong Kong Airlines 237
Dep: 11:55 am
Arr: 2:45 pm
2h 50m
Airbus A330
Economy (Q)
Layover in HKG
21h 45m
Hong Kong (HKG) to Vancouver (YVR) — Tue, Jul 18
Hong Kong Airlines 80
Dep: 12:30 pm
Arr: 10:10 am
12h 40m
Airbus A330
Economy (Q)
Inline image 8
Mileage
•14,214 total miles
CO2 Emissions
•2,296 kg (estimated by ITA).
Airport Information
•Vancouver International (YVR)
•Hangzhou Xiaoshan International (HGH)
•Shanghai Pudong International (PVG)
•Hong Kong International (HKG)
Cost per passenger (including taxes & fees)
CA$834.11
Total cost for 1 passenger
CA$834.11
ITA is seeing something that isn't actually there.
You need V on the outbound and Q on the inbound
Both of which are sold out at this point
Flying on the 17th outbound you can get V but inbound from PVG there is nothing that week available
P.S Im surprised that the Travel Agent didn't mention that