Jul 31, 2017, 8:56 am
Last edit by: platbrownguy
Original premium fare deal was for QR J class travel, originating in Vietnam (SGN and HAN) to several destinations across the Americas, Europe, and Africa. Travel period 8/2017 - 3/2018 inclusive, RT fares in the USD 500 - 700 range (USD $0.05 base fare).
Reports have now been circulating that all held, non-purchased fares have been canceled by the airline. Some held and then purchased fares were also canceled, but several reports indicate at least some of those have been re-instated.
For more information on flying Qatar Airways, visit the FT forum: Qatar Airways | Privilege Club. This thread in that forum is especially useful: Qatar Airways Forum Dashboard.
This wikipost is intended to help us better understand if there are any trends (by route, travel date, and/or held/ticketed status) in these cancellations. In all entries, please include: outbound or inbound departure date, origin-destination, original ticket status (only *if* "Held" or "Ticketed after Hold"), and current ticket status only *if* your ticket was cancelled ("Cancelled" or "Cancelled & Reinstated").
August HAN/SGN-XXX & XXX-HAN/SGN
Aug 05 SGN-Africa - Ticketed after Hold.
Aug 08 SGN-EZE
Aug 13 EZE-SGN
Aug 23 HAN-FRA
September HAN/SGN-XXX & XXX-HAN/SGN
Sep XX HAN-GRU
Sep 21 SGN-JFK
Sep 30 SGN-ORD - mster
Sep XX HAN-PHL
Sep XX SGN-JFK
Sep XX SGN-JFK - Held. Cancelled & Reinstated.
October HAN/SGN-XXX & XXX-HAN/SGN
Oct 03 ORD-SGN - mster
Oct 07 SGN-DFW - mster
Oct 13 DFW-SGN - mster
Oct XX SGN-JNB
November HAN/SGN-XXX & XXX-HAN/SGN
Nov 05 SGN-JFK - trapped
Nov 07 JFK-SGN - trapped
Nov 09 SGN-ORD - trapped
Nov 16 ORD-SGN - trapped
Nov XX HAN-PHL - Ticketed after Hold.
December HAN/SGN-XXX & XXX-HAN/SGN
Dec 23 SGN-DFW pbg
Dec 28 DFW-SGN pbg
Dec 28 SGN-DFW
Dec XX SGN-DFW
January HAN/SGN-XXX & XXX-HAN/SGN
Jan 10 DFW-SGN
Jan 11 HAN-DFW
Jan 13 DFW-HAN
Jan 25 SGN-ORD - Booked via OTA. Davem4 (Happy for SGN meet late Jan)
Jan 31 HAN-ATL - mster
Jan XX SGN-SOF
Jan XX HAN-PHL - Ticketed after Hold.
Jan XX SGN-Africa
Jan XX DFW-SGN
Jan XX SGN-PHL
Jan XX SGN-EZE/GRU - Three RTs.
Jan XX SGN-DFW
Jan XX SGN-DFW
February HAN/SGN-XXX & XXX-HAN/SGN
Feb 20 ATL-HAN - mster
Feb XX SGN-JNB
Feb XX PHL-SGN
Feb XX GRU-SGN - Three RTs.
Feb 09 ORD-SGN - Booked via OTA. Davem4
Feb 10 SGN-WAW - Booked via OTA. - Davem4
Feb XX SGN-JFK - Booked via OTA - lcpteck
March HAN/SGN-XXX & XXX-HAN/SGN
Mar 01 SGN-ATL - mster
Mar 07 ATL-SGN - mster
Mar 04 SGN-JFK
Mar 19 JFK-SGN
Mar 01 HAN-MIA
Mar 04 MIA-HAN
Mar XX SGN-DFW
Mar XX SGN-DFW
Mar 03 WAW-SGN - Booked via OTA. - Davem4 (Happy for SGN meet early Mar)
Held & Cancelled
Aug XX SGN-FRA - Held. Cancelled.
Oct XX SGN-JFK - Held. Cancelled.
Nov / Feb SGN-PHL - Held. Cancelled. (Held ~7:30pm. No record when I went to ticket Monday @8:30am.)
Jan / Feb SGN-JFK - Held. Cancelled.
Reports have now been circulating that all held, non-purchased fares have been canceled by the airline. Some held and then purchased fares were also canceled, but several reports indicate at least some of those have been re-instated.
For more information on flying Qatar Airways, visit the FT forum: Qatar Airways | Privilege Club. This thread in that forum is especially useful: Qatar Airways Forum Dashboard.
This wikipost is intended to help us better understand if there are any trends (by route, travel date, and/or held/ticketed status) in these cancellations. In all entries, please include: outbound or inbound departure date, origin-destination, original ticket status (only *if* "Held" or "Ticketed after Hold"), and current ticket status only *if* your ticket was cancelled ("Cancelled" or "Cancelled & Reinstated").
August HAN/SGN-XXX & XXX-HAN/SGN
Aug 05 SGN-Africa - Ticketed after Hold.
Aug 08 SGN-EZE
Aug 13 EZE-SGN
Aug 23 HAN-FRA
September HAN/SGN-XXX & XXX-HAN/SGN
Sep XX HAN-GRU
Sep 21 SGN-JFK
Sep 30 SGN-ORD - mster
Sep XX HAN-PHL
Sep XX SGN-JFK
Sep XX SGN-JFK - Held. Cancelled & Reinstated.
October HAN/SGN-XXX & XXX-HAN/SGN
Oct 03 ORD-SGN - mster
Oct 07 SGN-DFW - mster
Oct 13 DFW-SGN - mster
Oct XX SGN-JNB
November HAN/SGN-XXX & XXX-HAN/SGN
Nov 05 SGN-JFK - trapped
Nov 07 JFK-SGN - trapped
Nov 09 SGN-ORD - trapped
Nov 16 ORD-SGN - trapped
Nov XX HAN-PHL - Ticketed after Hold.
December HAN/SGN-XXX & XXX-HAN/SGN
Dec 23 SGN-DFW pbg
Dec 28 DFW-SGN pbg
Dec 28 SGN-DFW
Dec XX SGN-DFW
January HAN/SGN-XXX & XXX-HAN/SGN
Jan 10 DFW-SGN
Jan 11 HAN-DFW
Jan 13 DFW-HAN
Jan 25 SGN-ORD - Booked via OTA. Davem4 (Happy for SGN meet late Jan)
Jan 31 HAN-ATL - mster
Jan XX SGN-SOF
Jan XX HAN-PHL - Ticketed after Hold.
Jan XX SGN-Africa
Jan XX DFW-SGN
Jan XX SGN-PHL
Jan XX SGN-EZE/GRU - Three RTs.
Jan XX SGN-DFW
Jan XX SGN-DFW
February HAN/SGN-XXX & XXX-HAN/SGN
Feb 20 ATL-HAN - mster
Feb XX SGN-JNB
Feb XX PHL-SGN
Feb XX GRU-SGN - Three RTs.
Feb 09 ORD-SGN - Booked via OTA. Davem4
Feb 10 SGN-WAW - Booked via OTA. - Davem4
Feb XX SGN-JFK - Booked via OTA - lcpteck
March HAN/SGN-XXX & XXX-HAN/SGN
Mar 01 SGN-ATL - mster
Mar 07 ATL-SGN - mster
Mar 04 SGN-JFK
Mar 19 JFK-SGN
Mar 01 HAN-MIA
Mar 04 MIA-HAN
Mar XX SGN-DFW
Mar XX SGN-DFW
Mar 03 WAW-SGN - Booked via OTA. - Davem4 (Happy for SGN meet early Mar)
Held & Cancelled
Aug XX SGN-FRA - Held. Cancelled.
Oct XX SGN-JFK - Held. Cancelled.
Nov / Feb SGN-PHL - Held. Cancelled. (Held ~7:30pm. No record when I went to ticket Monday @8:30am.)
Jan / Feb SGN-JFK - Held. Cancelled.
[FARE GONE]QR Business (R) SGN-Various USA/EU/South America from $553 USD RT
Jul 31, 2017, 9:26 am
#301
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This makes a lot of sense of the earlier comment that Qatar may have not noticed filing in VND instead of USD.
Not saying it was an error - I bought AMS/TYO in January and it was honored without question - I was too late for this one.
Best of luck to those who got it - and lets hope QR's tweets about more surprises coming today means more Golden Tickets!
Not saying it was an error - I bought AMS/TYO in January and it was honored without question - I was too late for this one.
Best of luck to those who got it - and lets hope QR's tweets about more surprises coming today means more Golden Tickets!
Jul 31, 2017, 9:27 am
#302
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Visa issue? QR gives a free visa when you have a stopover in DOH.
Jul 31, 2017, 9:27 am
#303
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But this doesn't explain why the fare turned out to be so prevalent on so many routes across 4 different continents. My understanding is that each fare has to be filed individually for each route. Even if they copied the fare and applied it with floating rate to all these destinations, it still doesn't explain why some gateways are included while others aren't (BOS for example). My guess is that the ones where the promotion did apply are routes where they are seeing low load factors, and are forecasting to go out with empty seats. In those cases, the opportunity cost to provide this sale is otherwise very low
Though it's also possible they were looking to make history with the biggest golden ticket promotion
Jul 31, 2017, 9:28 am
#304
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Jul 31, 2017, 9:31 am
#305
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I believe the QR US site allows a 24 hour free cancel. I booked a similar priced J ticket on QR and they honored it. And if they don't, as long as they refund my money quickly, I'm down with it.
I recently got in on the EK MLE mistake fare - I didn't cancel, and EK cancelled - then reinstated - then said I can cancel at any time (but not make changes without refaring) or fly it. Pretty sick for the price I paid.
My point - generally, with more-established airlines, things seem to work out. In the small chance it doesn't - yes, it is generally unfair to the consumer, but if it wasn't meant to be...I chalk it up to, maybe I wasn't meant to go to X destination this time around. There is always a next time!
Jul 31, 2017, 9:32 am
#306
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Jul 31, 2017, 9:32 am
#308
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Have you applied already? It would seem sensical to apply ASAP after booking and note in the process (on a form) that you need priority processing given your impending flight date. I assume they would do their best to work with you (or cancel).
Jul 31, 2017, 9:35 am
#309
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I believe they mean 7 business days...don't ask how I found out...
Jul 31, 2017, 9:35 am
#310
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Jul 31, 2017, 9:37 am
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I can't say from experience in this instance - but many multi-day deadlines for what likely takes a couple of hours are just bureaucracy and padding.
Have you applied already? It would seem sensical to apply ASAP after booking and note in the process (on a form) that you need priority processing given your impending flight date. I assume they would do their best to work with you (or cancel).
Have you applied already? It would seem sensical to apply ASAP after booking and note in the process (on a form) that you need priority processing given your impending flight date. I assume they would do their best to work with you (or cancel).
Jul 31, 2017, 9:40 am
#312
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Anyone got a screen shot showing the "Golden Ticket" column highlighted in gold? If so, can you please post it here.
As an AA ExecPlat I would have earned 46K RDMs. Figuring 1¢ a mile that means QR would have to pay out $460 for these miles on my $676 fare less about $200 in non-airline fees and taxes. In effect, the spurious Fuel Surcharge (from an oil producing Emirate when fuel is at its cheapest level in years) just about covers the cost of the FF miles that would have had to be purchased.
As an AA ExecPlat I would have earned 46K RDMs. Figuring 1¢ a mile that means QR would have to pay out $460 for these miles on my $676 fare less about $200 in non-airline fees and taxes. In effect, the spurious Fuel Surcharge (from an oil producing Emirate when fuel is at its cheapest level in years) just about covers the cost of the FF miles that would have had to be purchased.
Jul 31, 2017, 9:40 am
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