[FARE GONE] Ethiopian : SIN-YYZ $945 RT (2.1 CPM on A3)
Mar 28, 2017, 4:16 pm
#47
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: YYZ
Programs: TK*G, Marriott Gold, Hilton Diamond, IHG Plat
Posts: 678
Are we sure we can cancel it without penalty? It seems the fare rule says refund is minus fee and carrier charge YR (which is almost the whole ticket). Or that's only applicable for out of seq tickets?
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OUT OF SEQUENCE TICKETS -
UTILIZATION OF TICKETS OUT OF SEQUENCE IS NOT
PERMITTED IF IN ANY CASE TICKETS IS UTILIZED OUT
OF SEQUENCE NO REFUND OF FARE AND THE CARRIER
IMPOSED SURCHARGE -
YR/YQ.
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A.WHEN OUTBOUND AND INBOUND FARES ARE REFUNDABLE.
WHEN COMBINING FARES THAT HAVE CANCELLATION
FEES THE HIGHEST CANCELLATION FEE OF EACH
CANCELLED PRICING UNIT APPLIES.
1.BEFORE DEPARTURE / FULLY UNUTILISED TICKETS
... DEDUCT THE APPLICABLE HIGHEST CANCELLATION
FEE FROM THE TOTAL OF THE BASE FARE AND
CARRIER IMPOSED SURCHARGE - YR.
... REFUND THE RESIDUAL AMOUNT ALONG WITH THE
REFUNDABLE GOVERNMENT TAXES.
... CARRIER IMPOSED SERVICE CHARGE - YQ IS NOT
REFUNDABLE.
2.AFTER DEPARTURE / PARTIALLY UTILISED TICKETS -
AFTER COMMENCEMENT OF THE FIRST SECTOR OF THE
JOURNEY.
..... DEDUCT ONE WAY FARE WITH EQUAL OR
HIGHER RBD FOR THE USED SECTOR.
... COLLECT APPLICABLE CANCELLATION FEE AND
THE CARRIER IMPOSED SURCHARGE - YR FOR THE
JOURNEY PERFORMED. DEDUCT NON-REFUNDABLE
TAXES.
... REFUND THE CARRIER IMPOSED SURCHARGE - YR AND
UNUTILISED GOVERNMENT TAXES FOR THE PORTION
OF THE JOURNEY NOT PERFORMED.
... NO REFUND OF FARE AND CARRIER IMPOSED
SURCHARGE - YR IF JOURNEY PERFORMED BEYOND
THE TURNAROUND/FARE BREAK POINT.
... CARRIER IMPOSED SERVICE CHARGE - YQ IS NOT
REFUNDABLE.
--------------------------------------------------
OUT OF SEQUENCE TICKETS -
UTILIZATION OF TICKETS OUT OF SEQUENCE IS NOT
PERMITTED IF IN ANY CASE TICKETS IS UTILIZED OUT
OF SEQUENCE NO REFUND OF FARE AND THE CARRIER
IMPOSED SURCHARGE -
YR/YQ.
--------------------------------------------------
A.WHEN OUTBOUND AND INBOUND FARES ARE REFUNDABLE.
WHEN COMBINING FARES THAT HAVE CANCELLATION
FEES THE HIGHEST CANCELLATION FEE OF EACH
CANCELLED PRICING UNIT APPLIES.
1.BEFORE DEPARTURE / FULLY UNUTILISED TICKETS
... DEDUCT THE APPLICABLE HIGHEST CANCELLATION
FEE FROM THE TOTAL OF THE BASE FARE AND
CARRIER IMPOSED SURCHARGE - YR.
... REFUND THE RESIDUAL AMOUNT ALONG WITH THE
REFUNDABLE GOVERNMENT TAXES.
... CARRIER IMPOSED SERVICE CHARGE - YQ IS NOT
REFUNDABLE.
2.AFTER DEPARTURE / PARTIALLY UTILISED TICKETS -
AFTER COMMENCEMENT OF THE FIRST SECTOR OF THE
JOURNEY.
..... DEDUCT ONE WAY FARE WITH EQUAL OR
HIGHER RBD FOR THE USED SECTOR.
... COLLECT APPLICABLE CANCELLATION FEE AND
THE CARRIER IMPOSED SURCHARGE - YR FOR THE
JOURNEY PERFORMED. DEDUCT NON-REFUNDABLE
TAXES.
... REFUND THE CARRIER IMPOSED SURCHARGE - YR AND
UNUTILISED GOVERNMENT TAXES FOR THE PORTION
OF THE JOURNEY NOT PERFORMED.
... NO REFUND OF FARE AND CARRIER IMPOSED
SURCHARGE - YR IF JOURNEY PERFORMED BEYOND
THE TURNAROUND/FARE BREAK POINT.
... CARRIER IMPOSED SERVICE CHARGE - YQ IS NOT
REFUNDABLE.
Mar 28, 2017, 4:27 pm
#49
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: PHX
Programs: AAexp, AC75k, HertzPC, NationalEE, Accor/MariottP, Hilton/HyattG
Posts: 3,614
I booked two of these direct on ET. Since I don't need *G, would A3 or SAS be the best to credit to?
Hope this sticks, thanks for sharing OP
Hope this sticks, thanks for sharing OP
Last edited by SKYEG; Mar 28, 2017 at 4:36 pm
Mar 28, 2017, 4:57 pm
#52
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Sweden
Programs: EBD, BA Gold, IHG Diamond Elite Ambassador
Posts: 4
I'm biased since I live in Sweden and have EB as my main program, but A3 is my second one and they have sweetspots in there redemption table. One way intra Asia for 21k points in Business. You can use that to fly NRT-SIN-HKG if you want as a one way.
If you don't gather 100k SAS points there aren't many good rewards you can get with SAS. Flying SAS Business Class one way is 60k, return 100k. That's probably the best value.
SAS do have some promotions from time to time, last year during the 70 year anniversary you could bock premium economy from Chicago to Scandinavia for 24k poitns for a return, that's the best one I've seen from SAS except mistake fares. SAS points are good if travelling in northern Europe as well. Domestic is 10k for return and 20k in northern Europe. It can be extremely expensive to fly to Germany (Frankfurt/Munich) some times and it's really good value to get it for 20k points or 10k when they have promotions.
Mar 28, 2017, 5:05 pm
#53
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: PHX
Programs: AAexp, AC75k, HertzPC, NationalEE, Accor/MariottP, Hilton/HyattG
Posts: 3,614
With A3 you can only make two flights on a one way award ticket. With SAS you can make 8 flights (there are rules for zones you can pass and other stuff so it's hard to fit in 8 flights).
I'm biased since I live in Sweden and have EB as my main program, but A3 is my second one and they have sweetspots in there redemption table. One way intra Asia for 21k points in Business. You can use that to fly NRT-SIN-HKG if you want as a one way.
If you don't gather 100k SAS points there aren't many good rewards you can get with SAS. Flying SAS Business Class one way is 60k, return 100k. That's probably the best value.
SAS do have some promotions from time to time, last year during the 70 year anniversary you could bock premium economy from Chicago to Scandinavia for 24k poitns for a return, that's the best one I've seen from SAS except mistake fares. SAS points are good if travelling in northern Europe as well. Domestic is 10k for return and 20k in northern Europe. It can be extremely expensive to fly to Germany (Frankfurt/Munich) some times and it's really good value to get it for 20k points or 10k when they have promotions.
I'm biased since I live in Sweden and have EB as my main program, but A3 is my second one and they have sweetspots in there redemption table. One way intra Asia for 21k points in Business. You can use that to fly NRT-SIN-HKG if you want as a one way.
If you don't gather 100k SAS points there aren't many good rewards you can get with SAS. Flying SAS Business Class one way is 60k, return 100k. That's probably the best value.
SAS do have some promotions from time to time, last year during the 70 year anniversary you could bock premium economy from Chicago to Scandinavia for 24k poitns for a return, that's the best one I've seen from SAS except mistake fares. SAS points are good if travelling in northern Europe as well. Domestic is 10k for return and 20k in northern Europe. It can be extremely expensive to fly to Germany (Frankfurt/Munich) some times and it's really good value to get it for 20k points or 10k when they have promotions.
Mar 28, 2017, 5:23 pm
#56
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Sweden
Programs: EBD, BA Gold, IHG Diamond Elite Ambassador
Posts: 4
https://www.sas.se/en/eurobonus/point-tables/
Award table for Aegean can be found here
https://en.aegeanair.com/milesandbon...#star-alliance
One way is half the price listed which is good. One way bsuiness Europe-North America is 45k points but you can only book 2 flights in total.
Far East Asia to North America is 75k points one way.
You could book CGK-SIN-NRT in First with SQ and NH for 40k points one way (at least you can book SQ first on B773 with Eurobonus points, haven't tried with A3 points)
Mar 28, 2017, 5:25 pm
#57
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: PHX
Programs: AAexp, AC75k, HertzPC, NationalEE, Accor/MariottP, Hilton/HyattG
Posts: 3,614
Mar 28, 2017, 5:26 pm
#58
Used to be highman123
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Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 3,541
Mar 28, 2017, 5:50 pm
#60
Join Date: Mar 2017
Posts: 1
YYZ->BKK?
The fare rules have a clause regarding "out of sequence" legs, but I'm not sure whether that would apply?