Mar 6, 2016, 10:33 pm
Last edit by: stephem
Fare Rules:
Fare basis code AA J PEN-YVR
Fare basis code AA J PEN-YVR
Code:
FLIGHT APPLICATION
BETWEEN CANADA AND AREA 3
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING AA FLIGHTS 5100 THROUGH 5249.
AND
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING AA FLIGHTS 6075 THROUGH 6124.
AND
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST INCLUDE TRAVEL VIA EACH TRANSPACIFIC SECTOR BUT NOT ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING AA FLIGHTS 7950 THROUGH 7969.
ADVANCE RES/TICKETING UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED
STANDBY NOT PERMITTED.
OPEN RETURNS PERMITTED.
NOTE -
TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
RESERVATIONS BOOKED 3 DAYS OR LESS PRIOR TO
DEPARTURE MUST BE TICKETED WITHIN 24 HOURS.
RESERVATIONS BOOKED 24 HOURS OR LESS PRIOR TO
DEPARTURE MUST BE TICKETED WITHIN 3 HOURS.
STOPOVERS
UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED NOTE - GENERAL RULE DOES NOT APPLY UNLIMITED STOPOVERS PERMITTED ON THE PRICING UNIT.
TRANSFERS UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED
UNLIMITED TRANSFERS PERMITTED ON THE FARE COMPONENT
FARE BREAK SURFACE SECTORS NOT PERMITTED AND EMBEDDED SURFACE SECTORS PERMITTED ON THE FARE COMPONENT.
PERMITTED COMBINATIONS FOR ONE WAY FARES
ADD-ONS PERMITTED.
END-ON-END
END-ON-END COMBINATIONS PERMITTED. VALIDATE ADJACENT
LINE OF FLIGHT FARE COMPONENTS ONLY. TRAVEL MUST BE VIA
THE POINT OF COMBINATION.
END-ON-END NOTE -
ADD-ONS PERMITTED
OPEN JAWS/ROUND TRIPS
FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS
-TO FORM SINGLE OR DOUBLE OPEN JAWS/ROUND TRIPS.
PROVIDED -
COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR ANY CARRIER IN ANY
RULE IN TARIFF
IPRP - BETWEEN THE USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 VIA PAC
IPRPC - BETWEEN AREA 1-AREA 2/3 VIA PAC
IPRSAAS - BETWEEN AREA 1-AREA 3 VIA PAC
IPRSAPN - AREA 1-SOUTH WEST PACIFIC VIA PAC AND N.
AMERICA
OR RULE 7100/8005 IN TARIFF
PAMAAR - BETWEEN AREA 1-AREA 3 VIA PAC.
CIRCLE TRIPS
FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS WITH
ANY FARE FOR ANY CARRIER IN ANY RULE AND TARIFF
-TO FORM CIRCLE TRIPS.
PROVIDED -
COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR ANY CARRIER IN RULE
7100/8005 IN TARIFF
ATMAAR - BETWEEN AREA 1-AREA 2/3 VIA ATL
OR ANY RULE IN TARIFF
IPRA - BETWEEN USA/CA-AREA 2/3 AND GUAM-AREA 2
IPRAI - BETWEEN THE USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 VIA ATL
IPRP - BETWEEN THE USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 VIA PAC
IPRPC - BETWEEN AREA 1-AREA 2/3 VIA PAC
IPRSAAS - BETWEEN AREA 1-AREA 3 VIA PAC
IPRSAA2 - BETWEEN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE-AREA 2 VIA
ATL
IPRSAA3 - BETWEEN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE-AREA 3 VIA
ATL
IPRSAPN - AREA 1-SOUTH WEST PACIFIC VIA PAC AND N.
AMERICA
OR RULE 7100/8005 IN TARIFF
PAMAAR - BETWEEN AREA 1-AREA 3 VIA PAC.
SURCHARGES BETWEEN CANADA AND MALAYSIA
IF INFANT UNDER 02 WITHOUT A SEAT.
OR - CONTRACT BULK INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT UNDER 02.
OR - MILITARY INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT UNDER 02.
OR - INCLUSIVE TOUR INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT UNDER 02.
A SECURITY SURCHARGE OF HKD 45 PER COUPON WILL BE ADDED
TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR DEPARTURE FROM HKG AIRPORT.
NOTE -
THIS SECURITY SURCHARGE APPLIES TO -
1/ INFANTS.
2/ PASSENGERS TRANSFERRING/TRANSITING HONG KONG.
3/ PASSENGERS TRAVELLING ON INDUSTRY/AGENCY
DISCOUNT /ID/AD/ TICKETS.
4/ PASSENGERS HOLDING DIPLOMATIC PASSPORTS.
THE PROVISIONS BELOW APPLY ONLY AS FOLLOWS -
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON AA OR US.
OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON AA OR AY.
OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON AA OR BA.
OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON AA OR IB.
OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON AA OR JL.
OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON AA OR QF.
THERE IS NO CHARGE PER FARE COMPONENT FOR TRANSPACIFIC
SECTORS.
NOTE -
YR FEE MAY APPLY
AND - AN AIRPORT/TERMINAL SURCHARGE OF CAD 15.00 PER
COUPON WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR
DEPARTURE FROM CANADA.
NOTE -
THIS NAVIGATION SURCHARGE APPLIES TO ADT/CNN
AND IS NOT SUBJECT TO ANY DISCOUNT.
AND - AN AIRPORT/TERMINAL SURCHARGE OF CAD 15.00 PER
COUPON WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR
ARRIVAL IN CANADA.
NOTE -
THIS NAVIGATION SURCHARGE APPLIES TO ADT/CNN
AND IS NOT SUBJECT TO ANY DISCOUNT.
AND - A SECURITY SURCHARGE OF HKD 45 PER COUPON WILL BE
ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR DEPARTURE FROM
HKG AIRPORT.
NOTE -
THIS SECURITY SURCHARGE APPLIES TO -
1/ PASSENGERS TRANSFERRING/TRANSITING HONG KONG.
2/ PASSENGERS TRAVELLING ON INDUSTRY/AGENCY
DISCOUNT /ID/AD/ TICKETS.
3/ PASSENGERS HOLDING DIPLOMATIC PASSPORTS.
AND - ORIGINATING MALAYSIA -
A SURCHARGE OF USD 134.00 PER FARE COMPONENT WILL BE
ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR TRAVEL FOR
TRANSPACIFIC SECTORS.
NOTE -
THIS SURCHARGE APPLIES IN ADDITION TO ALL OTHER
CHARGES AND IS NOT SUBJECT TO ANY DISCOUNT.
THIS SURCHARGE WILL NOT APPLY TO PASSENGERS
TRAVELLING ON FREE TICKETS.
AND - AN AIRPORT/TERMINAL SURCHARGE OF CAD 15.00 PER
COUPON WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR
DEPARTURE FROM CANADA.
NOTE -
THIS NAVIGATION SURCHARGE APPLIES TO ADT/CNN
AND IS NOT SUBJECT TO ANY DISCOUNT.
AND - AN AIRPORT/TERMINAL SURCHARGE OF CAD 15.00 PER
COUPON WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR
ARRIVAL IN CANADA.
NOTE -
THIS NAVIGATION SURCHARGE APPLIES TO ADT/CNN
AND IS NOT SUBJECT TO ANY DISCOUNT.
AND - A SECURITY SURCHARGE OF HKD 45 PER COUPON WILL BE
ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR DEPARTURE FROM
HKG AIRPORT.
NOTE -
THIS SECURITY SURCHARGE APPLIES TO -
1/ PASSENGERS TRANSFERRING/TRANSITING HONG KONG.
2/ PASSENGERS TRAVELLING ON INDUSTRY/AGENCY
DISCOUNT /ID/AD/ TICKETS.
3/ PASSENGERS HOLDING DIPLOMATIC PASSPORTS.
SALES RESTRICTIONS UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED BY ELECTRONIC TICKETING.
TICKETS MAY NOT BE SOLD IN VENEZUELA/ARGENTINA.
TICKETS MAY ONLY BE SOLD IN AREA 1/AREA 2/AREA 3.
PENALTIES UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED
NOTE -
FOR TRAVEL AGENCY BOOKINGS MADE IN MEXICO / THE
CARIBBEAN / CENTRAL AND SOUTH AMERICA - AA WILL
ASSESS A USD 25.00 FEE ON ANY UNTICKETED
RESERVATION NOT CANCELED BEFORE DEPARTURE.
CHILDREN DISCOUNTS BETWEEN CANADA AND AREA 3
ORIGINATING AREA 3 -
ACCOMPANIED CHILD 2-11 - CHARGE 67 PERCENT OF THE FARE.
TICKETING CODE - BASE FARE CODE PLUS CH
OR - INFANT UNDER 2 WITH A SEAT - CHARGE 67 PERCENT OF
THE FARE.
TICKETING CODE - BASE FARE CODE PLUS CH
OR - INFANT UNDER 2 WITHOUT A SEAT - CHARGE 10 PERCENT
OF THE FARE.
TICKETING CODE - BASE FARE CODE PLUS IN
OR - UNACCOMPANIED CHILD 5-14 - CHARGE 100 PERCENT OF
THE FARE.
NOTE -
UNACCOMPANIED CHILDREN 5 6 AND 7 YEARS OF AGE WILL
ONLY BE TRANSPORTED OVER THE LINES OF AA NON-STOP
OR THROUGH PLANE SERVICE.
FOR J- TYPE FARES
ACCOMPANIED CHILD 2-11 - CHARGE 100 PERCENT OF THE FARE.
TICKETING CODE - BASE FARE CODE PLUS CH.
MUST BE ACCOMPANIED IN SAME COMPARTMENT BY ADULT 16 OR
OLDER
OR - INFANT UNDER 2 WITH A SEAT - CHARGE 100 PERCENT OF
THE FARE.
TICKETING CODE - BASE FARE CODE PLUS CH.
MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN SAME
COMPARTMENT BY ADULT 16 OR OLDER
OR - 1ST INFANT UNDER 2 WITHOUT A SEAT - CHARGE 10 PERCENT
OF THE FARE.
TICKETING CODE - BASE FARE CODE PLUS IN.
MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN SAME
COMPARTMENT BY ADULT 16 OR OLDER.
NOTE -
WHEN TRAVEL INCLUDES BOTH DOMESTIC AND
INTERNATIONAL SERVICE AND DIFFERENT
INFANT FARES APPLY - THE FARE NEED NOT
BE MORE THAN THE SUM OF THE APPLICABLE
FARES FOR THE DOMESTIC AND INTERNATIONAL
PORTIONS.
OR - UNACCOMPANIED CHILD 5-14 - CHARGE 100 PERCENT OF THE
FARE.
NOTE -
UNACCOMPANIED CHILDREN 5 6 AND 7 YEARS OF AGE WILL
ONLY BE TRANSPORTED OVER THE LINES OF AA NON-STOP
OR THROUGH PLANE SERVICE.
TOUR CONDUCTOR DISCOUNTS UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED
NOTE -
DISCOUNTS APPLY. INFORMATION IS NOT AVAILABLE
AT THIS TIME...CONTACT CARRIER FOR DETAILS.
THIS RULE DOES NOT APPLY FOR TRAVEL ON OTHER
AIRLINE OPERATED CODE SHARE FLIGHTS.
AGENT DISCOUNTS UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED
NOTE -
DISCOUNTS APPLY. INFORMATION IS NOT AVAILABLE
AT THIS TIME. CONTACT CARRIER FOR DETAILS.
THIS RULE DOES NOT APPLY FOR TRAVEL ON OTHER
AIRLINE OPERATED CODE SHARE FLIGHTS.
ALL OTHER DISCOUNTS UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED
THE PROVISIONS BELOW APPLY ONLY AS FOLLOWS -
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON AA. SALE IS RESTRICTED TO
SPECIFIC AGENTS.
FARES MAY ONLY BE SOLD BY AA AND MAY NOT BE SOLD BY TRAVEL
AGENTS.
PASSENGER OCCUPYING TWO SEATS. ID REQUIRED - CHARGE 100
PERCENT OF THE FARE.
TICKET DESIGNATOR - SEAT.
NOTE -
APPLICATION---
FARES APPLY TO A PASSENGER PERMITTED THE
EXCLUSIVE USE OF TWO ADJACENT SEATS.
SENIOR CITIZEN 65 OR OLDER. ID REQUIRED - NO DISCOUNT.
NOTE -
RULE 1810 - SENIOR CITIZEN DISCOUNT DOES NOT APPLY
[FARE GONE] J PEN-YVR $1758CDN o/w One World and friends. F option available.
Mar 4, 2016, 10:44 pm
#1
Original Poster
Join Date: Dec 2002
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[FARE GONE] J PEN-YVR $1758CDN o/w One World and friends. F option available.
To EOS
Double for return.
Appears to be a mileage type fare.
Many routing options available.
The greater the mileage flown the higher the fare.
Search on google flights. Bookable at AA.com
Cheapest routing appears to be PEN-KUL-NRT-YVR
Connections available in most SE Asian cities.
$2212CDN routes PEN-HKG-AA-DFW-YVR
HKG-ORD is another option.
CX routings available across the Pacific.
$2569CDN o/w gets you
PEN-HKG-(CX/F)-LAX-AC-YVR
Double for return.
Appears to be a mileage type fare.
Many routing options available.
The greater the mileage flown the higher the fare.
Search on google flights. Bookable at AA.com
Cheapest routing appears to be PEN-KUL-NRT-YVR
Connections available in most SE Asian cities.
$2212CDN routes PEN-HKG-AA-DFW-YVR
HKG-ORD is another option.
CX routings available across the Pacific.
$2569CDN o/w gets you
PEN-HKG-(CX/F)-LAX-AC-YVR
Mar 4, 2016, 11:02 pm
#2
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: YYC, SFO, OAK
Programs: AS MVP 75K, AA Platinum, IHG Platinum, Club Carlson Gold
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I see ample opportunity to use this as a return from an Xmas vacation to SE Asia, and abandoning the last leg to YVR... especially if you live in SFO or LAX. Haven't seen any ORD routings though?
The other interesting thing about this fare is that the long haul segments (at least the CX versions) are AA codeshares... and Google flights says one must call AA to book... so if you book the J version for ~C$1780 it's 2x EQM on the HKG-LAX/SFO leg, and for the F version it's 3x. Not a bad boost for EXP status. Only problem is that this fare seems only to be valid originating in PEN, not in YVR, so one would have to position to get it.
The other interesting thing about this fare is that the long haul segments (at least the CX versions) are AA codeshares... and Google flights says one must call AA to book... so if you book the J version for ~C$1780 it's 2x EQM on the HKG-LAX/SFO leg, and for the F version it's 3x. Not a bad boost for EXP status. Only problem is that this fare seems only to be valid originating in PEN, not in YVR, so one would have to position to get it.
Last edited by AwardBee; Mar 4, 2016 at 11:19 pm
Mar 4, 2016, 11:19 pm
#3
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Location: Manhattan Beach, California
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hehe, I love it when these things resurface and they make more sense in light of product or alliance changes. Look at the creation date in the GDS ;-) Remember that great line from the Ronco Food Dehydrator... "set it and __get it!" Also child fare is 67% so quite good for families.
The only restrictions on flights (so few restrictions are not atypical of these older vintage AA fares):
Same rules for J and F, looks like the base fare is about $500 more for the F. Note for AA J segments you get 3x EQM w Advantage. These used to be scattered around Asia when I lived in Singapore 10 years ago.
The only restrictions on flights (so few restrictions are not atypical of these older vintage AA fares):
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
AA FLIGHTS 5100 THROUGH 5249.
AND
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
AA FLIGHTS 6075 THROUGH 6124.
AND
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST INCLUDE TRAVEL VIA EACH
TRANSPACIFIC SECTOR BUT NOT ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
AA FLIGHTS 7950 THROUGH 7969.
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
AA FLIGHTS 5100 THROUGH 5249.
AND
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
AA FLIGHTS 6075 THROUGH 6124.
AND
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST INCLUDE TRAVEL VIA EACH
TRANSPACIFIC SECTOR BUT NOT ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
AA FLIGHTS 7950 THROUGH 7969.
Mar 4, 2016, 11:21 pm
#4
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: YYC, SFO, OAK
Programs: AS MVP 75K, AA Platinum, IHG Platinum, Club Carlson Gold
Posts: 734
hehe, I love it when these things resurface and they make more sense in light of product or alliance changes. Look at the creation date in the GDS ;-) Remember that great line from the Ronco Food Dehydrator... "set it and __get it!" Also child fare is 67% so quite good for families.
The only restrictions on flights (so few restrictions are not atypical of these older vintage AA fares):
Same rules for J and F, looks like the base fare is about $500 more for the F. Note for AA J segments you get 3x EQM w Advantage. These used to be scattered around Asia when I lived in Singapore 10 years ago.
The only restrictions on flights (so few restrictions are not atypical of these older vintage AA fares):
Same rules for J and F, looks like the base fare is about $500 more for the F. Note for AA J segments you get 3x EQM w Advantage. These used to be scattered around Asia when I lived in Singapore 10 years ago.
Mar 4, 2016, 11:45 pm
#5
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Manhattan Beach, California
Programs: BMI Diamond Club Gold forever
Posts: 6,367
Remember that Shakira song "Hips Don't Lie"? That year...
Yup
KA now flies ex-PEN. BTW, see CMB-YYC/YVR AA J fare as well, many of the same tips and tricks work. With a little effort you can get CX metal for the same price as the inferior JL metal to YVR. MPM is 9438 by the way.
Yup
KA now flies ex-PEN. BTW, see CMB-YYC/YVR AA J fare as well, many of the same tips and tricks work. With a little effort you can get CX metal for the same price as the inferior JL metal to YVR. MPM is 9438 by the way.
Mar 4, 2016, 11:53 pm
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If you dig back into the ancient Premium Fares threads (before this forum existed), and consider the fare basis, you will understand why. Or ask yourself this... what is the highest fare bucket in business? What fare basis is this?
Mar 5, 2016, 12:04 am
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It's possible to get AA codes all the way through, I found PEN-KUL (AA7447) -HKG (AA8905)-SFO(AA8929)-SEA (6861) -YVR (AA6871). That's over 28k EQMs one way as they are all J or F.
Also possible to route through BKK or SIN with a little work, or HND-SFO (JL), so tons of routing options here and the ability to pick your favorite carrier.
Also possible to route through BKK or SIN with a little work, or HND-SFO (JL), so tons of routing options here and the ability to pick your favorite carrier.
Last edited by stephem; Mar 5, 2016 at 12:31 am
Mar 5, 2016, 12:04 am
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Mar 5, 2016, 1:12 am
#10
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Can also book F one way (AA codeshares) to YYZ (with your choice of CX or JL F via JFK) for only RM9097 (~US$2240). Wow. Astounding...
Were it not for AA gutting both their earning and redemption sides of their FFP, this would have been a no brainer for me. As it is, I'm tempted more to spend my existing pile of miles rather than trying to rack up more.
Were it not for AA gutting both their earning and redemption sides of their FFP, this would have been a no brainer for me. As it is, I'm tempted more to spend my existing pile of miles rather than trying to rack up more.
Mar 5, 2016, 6:45 am
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Mar 5, 2016, 7:34 am
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Is there a trick to get AA to force flights on JL?
I'm able to price out on google, then re-direct to AA.com. But it prices in USD. I'm in Canada and want to avoid that as you get dinged with the FX fees.
If I go to AA.com and sign-in, all the pricing is in CAD. But...all I get are CX/AA flight options. Not bad, but I want to fly JAL via ORD or JFK.
Tried doing multi-city, but could only get the JAL at cheapest fares with ORD-YYZ adding a detour via CLT. My wife won't go for that as she's already testy on the existing routing.
NEVERMIND...ANSWERED MY OWN QUESTION. IN ADVANCED SEARCH JUST SELECT AA FLIGHTS. IT'll CODE EVERYTHING TO AA, INCLUDING ON PARTNER METAL.
I'm able to price out on google, then re-direct to AA.com. But it prices in USD. I'm in Canada and want to avoid that as you get dinged with the FX fees.
If I go to AA.com and sign-in, all the pricing is in CAD. But...all I get are CX/AA flight options. Not bad, but I want to fly JAL via ORD or JFK.
Tried doing multi-city, but could only get the JAL at cheapest fares with ORD-YYZ adding a detour via CLT. My wife won't go for that as she's already testy on the existing routing.
NEVERMIND...ANSWERED MY OWN QUESTION. IN ADVANCED SEARCH JUST SELECT AA FLIGHTS. IT'll CODE EVERYTHING TO AA, INCLUDING ON PARTNER METAL.
Last edited by grandgourmand; Mar 5, 2016 at 7:48 am