(FARE GONE) OSL-JFK-OSL J AA/AY/BA/IB at 4k NOK/450 EUR
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Not sure, but i think you missed my point: I can't really see the relevance of an excuse - real or invented - for missing a last segment.
The airline generally has little sympathy with excuses for missing the first (or intermediate) sectors: so if it was gung-ho about pursuing the rascals who ditch their final flight, I can't see much hope for "I felt poorly" softening steely hearts. They'd ask you to cough up, and suggest talking to your insurer.
The airline generally has little sympathy with excuses for missing the first (or intermediate) sectors: so if it was gung-ho about pursuing the rascals who ditch their final flight, I can't see much hope for "I felt poorly" softening steely hearts. They'd ask you to cough up, and suggest talking to your insurer.
There is no basis in the CoC for an arbitrary post-travel repricing.
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That's what I thought. I find it hard to see how they can make you pay up. If this goes to court and you missed your flight due to a sickness or loosing track of time the judge would find it hard to rule in BA's favour and make you cough up an additional 2k.
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But if any term appeared suggesting a post-travel reprice could be imposed by BA, I would be writing to the Director of Fair Trading to seek a declaration that the term was unenforceable by virtue of the Unfair Terms in Consumer Contracts Regulations.
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Indeed. BA has no intention of doing this or it would be spelt out in the CoC. The CoC is a very nice document that sets out exactly what BA's position is in very clear English.
But if any term appeared suggesting a post-travel reprice could be imposed by BA, I would be writing to the Director of Fair Trading to seek a declaration that the term was unenforceable by virtue of the Unfair Terms in Consumer Contracts Regulations.
But if any term appeared suggesting a post-travel reprice could be imposed by BA, I would be writing to the Director of Fair Trading to seek a declaration that the term was unenforceable by virtue of the Unfair Terms in Consumer Contracts Regulations.
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I long since arrived at a view in harmony with yours: the airline is unlikely to pursue a passenger who doesn't fly the final sector of a ticketed journey, whatever the reason the passenger might have, or present, for curtailing or changing his/her itinerary.
The modest point I was making is consequent to that analysis: there is no reason for knowing winks about missing trains and feeling funny as an excuse for missing the final sector.
BA are eager to impose penalties for missing first sectors (whatever excuse is offered), suggesting that if they could do so for the same treatment of the final sector, they would. But they can't: or, perhaps more accurately, haven't the will to pursue what might be a damaging path.
So (yet again) no point in the allusion to missed transport links, heavy traffic between LCY and LHR, or even the demise of poor old Aunt Hilda.
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Indeed. BA has no intention of doing this or it would be spelt out in the CoC. The CoC is a very nice document that sets out exactly what BA's position is in very clear English.
But if any term appeared suggesting a post-travel reprice could be imposed by BA, I would be writing to the Director of Fair Trading to seek a declaration that the term was unenforceable by virtue of the Unfair Terms in Consumer Contracts Regulations.
But if any term appeared suggesting a post-travel reprice could be imposed by BA, I would be writing to the Director of Fair Trading to seek a declaration that the term was unenforceable by virtue of the Unfair Terms in Consumer Contracts Regulations.
3c2) Your ticket is no longer valid if you do not use all the coupons in the sequence provided in the ticket. Where you change your travel without our agreement and the price for the resulting transportation you intend to undertake is greater than the price originally paid, you will be requested to pay the difference in price. Failure to pay the price applicable to your revised transportation will result in refusal of carriage.
- You have failed to use all the coupons in the sequence provided in the ticket
- This was done without BA's agreement
- The price for the resulting transportation is greater than the price originally paid (Norway-US-UK will be higher than mistake fare Norway-US-Norway)
- So BA might choose to request that you pay the difference in price
- And if you refuse to pay the amount requested, then BA will erm refuse to fly you to Norway, which we all agree would be terrible punishment for not flying to Norway
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I've just seen yet another person got an operational upgrade to F on one of these tickets so they cannot be too upset about this mistake.
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I meant to do this when I posted the BA CoC clause above. But it is interessting (well to me at least) to contrast the BA CoC with AA's, which is:
(D) WHERE A TICKET IS PURCHASED AND USED IN VIOLATION OF THE CONTRACT OF CARRIAGE OR ANY FARE RULE (INCLUDING HIDDEN CITIES TICKETING, POINT BEYOND TICKETING, THROWAWAY TICKETING, BACK-TO-BACK TICKETING, AA HAS THE RIGHT IN ITS SOLE DISCRETION TO TAKE ALL ACTIONS PERMITTED BY LAW, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, THE FOLLOWING:
(I) INVALIDATE THE TICKET(S);
(II) CANCEL ANY REMAINING PORTION OF THE PASSENGER'S ITINERARY;
(III) CONFISCATE ANY UNUSED FLIGHT COUPONS;
(IV) REFUSE TO BOARD THE PASSENGER AND TO CARRY THE PASSENGER'S BAGGAGE
UNLESS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE FARE PAID AND THE FARE FOR TRANSPORTATION USED IS COLLECTED PRIOR TO BOARDING.
(I) INVALIDATE THE TICKET(S);
(II) CANCEL ANY REMAINING PORTION OF THE PASSENGER'S ITINERARY;
(III) CONFISCATE ANY UNUSED FLIGHT COUPONS;
(IV) REFUSE TO BOARD THE PASSENGER AND TO CARRY THE PASSENGER'S BAGGAGE
UNLESS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE FARE PAID AND THE FARE FOR TRANSPORTATION USED IS COLLECTED PRIOR TO BOARDING.
My emphasis and sorry for the CAPS but that's how the CoC's are published.
So, if your ticket is issued by AA and you drop the final segment, then AA could at its discretion come after you for the fare difference
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I meant to do this when I posted the BA CoC clause above. But it is interessting (well to me at least) to contrast the BA CoC with AA's, which is:
My emphasis and sorry for the CAPS but that's how the CoC's are published.
So, if your ticket is issued by AA and you drop the final segment, then AA could at its discretion come after you for the fare difference
My emphasis and sorry for the CAPS but that's how the CoC's are published.
So, if your ticket is issued by AA and you drop the final segment, then AA could at its discretion come after you for the fare difference
Is there any other field in consumer contract law where the seller is entitled to demand an arbitrary
My suspicion is that, even if such a position were explicitly stated in the agreement rather than left to implication, it would be a hairy position to hold.
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Then again, Oslo is quite nice to visit. Add the fact that the currency fell significantly the past year, and a overnight stay is not that expensive.
I just finished my 3 tickets and did enjoy Oslo.
I just finished my 3 tickets and did enjoy Oslo.
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Where is the 4 hour change? If it affects your arrival time by 4+ hours I'd imagine you could push for a FOC date change.
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I've had a couple of schedule changes. 1 very small one and 1 for my MIA-LHR flight changing departure from 19.30 to 18.10. This pushes my layover in LHR on the way back out to 5 hours which is a pain because I'm actually going to OSL!