Apr 4, 2014, 10:50 am
Last edit by: cesco.g
There are two categories of US cities involved, DL hubs and other, generally secondary, airports.
From some DL Hubs, UA P fares are valid to a much wider range of cities in Europe:
SLC/MSP/DTW/ATL/CVG/MEM-AMS/MXP/FCO/CDG/MLA/VCE/TRN/FLR/NAP/PMO/CTA/BUD/PRG/CPH/IST/WAW/ARN/OSL/KRK/PRG/TLL/RIX/etc
(but not JFK nor LAX?)
Other airports are valid to a smaller set of cities in Europe:
BOS/SJC/SMF/MOD/BWI/BUR/ONT/SNA/PSP/HNL/SEA/PDX/AUS/PIT/TUS/TPA/ALB/etc/etc-AMS/MXP/FCO/CDG/MLA/VCE/TRN/FLR/NAP/PMO/CTA/etc
Most UA hubs don't have the fare filed (not SFO for sure), but apparently EWR has at least EWR-VCE/NCE (but not EWR-MXP/PMO/FCO/CDG)
Some destinations in Europe have a slightly higher base fare:
MRS/LYS
(please add more cities to either origin or destination side that are valid)
Be careful in your airline selection - there are PQM/RDM implications to this. For example, for the UA program, UA P earns 150% PQM/RDM, LH P earns 100% PQM/RDM, and it appears that OS P earns nothing.
Similarly it looks like UA P class credited to Aegean (A3) earns nothing. Visit this United webpage then click on the Star Alliance partner to determine mileage earnings.
From some DL Hubs, UA P fares are valid to a much wider range of cities in Europe:
SLC/MSP/DTW/ATL/CVG/MEM-AMS/MXP/FCO/CDG/MLA/VCE/TRN/FLR/NAP/PMO/CTA/BUD/PRG/CPH/IST/WAW/ARN/OSL/KRK/PRG/TLL/RIX/etc
(but not JFK nor LAX?)
Other airports are valid to a smaller set of cities in Europe:
BOS/SJC/SMF/MOD/BWI/BUR/ONT/SNA/PSP/HNL/SEA/PDX/AUS/PIT/TUS/TPA/ALB/etc/etc-AMS/MXP/FCO/CDG/MLA/VCE/TRN/FLR/NAP/PMO/CTA/etc
Most UA hubs don't have the fare filed (not SFO for sure), but apparently EWR has at least EWR-VCE/NCE (but not EWR-MXP/PMO/FCO/CDG)
Some destinations in Europe have a slightly higher base fare:
MRS/LYS
(please add more cities to either origin or destination side that are valid)
Be careful in your airline selection - there are PQM/RDM implications to this. For example, for the UA program, UA P earns 150% PQM/RDM, LH P earns 100% PQM/RDM, and it appears that OS P earns nothing.
Similarly it looks like UA P class credited to Aegean (A3) earns nothing. Visit this United webpage then click on the Star Alliance partner to determine mileage earnings.
[FARE GONE] Lots of UA ATL-AMS (and other cities) Z fares; less than $2k for July
Apr 2, 2014, 8:09 am
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would UA be inclined in the case of IRROPS to just send me to IAD rather than RIC if I asked telling thats where I live.. or would they most likely just flat out say No.
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Apr 2, 2014, 8:23 am
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The DEN-FRA flight leaves out of Terminal A, so you will really be in trouble if the inbound (arriving at Terminal B) is late, especially if it an RJ that arrives at the extreme east end of B.
Tight connection in DEN (45mins) though, is that doable? Crazy as I'm just getting back from a 3-week trip to the South Pacific a week previous.
Apr 2, 2014, 8:24 am
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i've done this frequently with SFO/SMF/RNO, and PHL/DCA/IAD/EWR.
with the 20 hour layover i'm sure they'll short check your bag to IAD, if you ask, meaning you can just walk away from it there. this of course assumes they know how to short check bags at FCO, which IME is contracted if i recall correctly? I dont know because i just had carryon last time and buzzed through the process.
Apr 2, 2014, 8:30 am
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in IRROPS they'll send you pretty much whereever you want to go, within reason, IMO. especially if they can get you there sooner than your actual ticketed destination.
i've done this frequently with SFO/SMF/RNO, and PHL/DCA/IAD/EWR.
with the 20 hour layover i'm sure they'll short check your bag to IAD, if you ask, meaning you can just walk away from it there. this of course assumes they know how to short check bags at FCO, which IME is contracted if i recall correctly? I dont know because i just had carryon last time and buzzed through the process.
i've done this frequently with SFO/SMF/RNO, and PHL/DCA/IAD/EWR.
with the 20 hour layover i'm sure they'll short check your bag to IAD, if you ask, meaning you can just walk away from it there. this of course assumes they know how to short check bags at FCO, which IME is contracted if i recall correctly? I dont know because i just had carryon last time and buzzed through the process.
between what you stated and the 20 hour layover, it should be no problem getting to IAD either via my regularly scheduled flight or in the case of IRROPS
I was just reading the fare rules and for you Non UA guys like me
TICKET MAY BE USED TOWARD PURCHASE OF
ANOTHER TICKET DUE TO AN EMERGENCY OF
PASSENGER / IMMEDIATE FAMILY MEMBER OR
TRAVELING COMPANIOIN.
DOCUMENTATION REQUIRED CONTACT CARRIER.
CHANGES
ANY TIME
CHARGE USD 450.00.
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Apr 2, 2014, 8:30 am
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Is this available through any of the online travel agencies where a cashback opportunity would available? There's enough money involved here that cashback would also be worthwhile.
I know Flyertalkers like premium travel, but to me this is still a lot of dinero. It's really only worth it if you want to travel to Europe this summer, were planning on going anyway and don't have good award travel opportunities. This way, you can basically fly to Europe in biz class for about the same price as a coach ticket (which are expensive in summer).
I'm not going to be buying myself, but I am recommending the fare to affluent friends who don't play the mileage game. Also to business travelers.
I know Flyertalkers like premium travel, but to me this is still a lot of dinero. It's really only worth it if you want to travel to Europe this summer, were planning on going anyway and don't have good award travel opportunities. This way, you can basically fly to Europe in biz class for about the same price as a coach ticket (which are expensive in summer).
I'm not going to be buying myself, but I am recommending the fare to affluent friends who don't play the mileage game. Also to business travelers.
Apr 2, 2014, 8:33 am
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in IRROPS they'll send you pretty much whereever you want to go, within reason, IMO. especially if they can get you there sooner than your actual ticketed destination.
i've done this frequently with SFO/SMF/RNO, and PHL/DCA/IAD/EWR.
with the 20 hour layover i'm sure they'll short check your bag to IAD, if you ask, meaning you can just walk away from it there. this of course assumes they know how to short check bags at FCO, which IME is contracted if i recall correctly? I dont know because i just had carryon last time and buzzed through the process.
i've done this frequently with SFO/SMF/RNO, and PHL/DCA/IAD/EWR.
with the 20 hour layover i'm sure they'll short check your bag to IAD, if you ask, meaning you can just walk away from it there. this of course assumes they know how to short check bags at FCO, which IME is contracted if i recall correctly? I dont know because i just had carryon last time and buzzed through the process.
For those who don't know, you may be able to add a third segment/sector for US-Canada travel (non-stop or one-stop) in business class that only increases the cost by $100 or less and that sector can even be in the fall.
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Apr 2, 2014, 8:43 am
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Tried searching but no results, if I fly Brussels Airlines BRU-JFK SN501 P Business class segment as shown on the UA inbound results page, how would the mileage accrual be for PQM? I dont see any P fare on the Brussels partner earning page on UA website.
Never mind, found a thread showing that its still up in the air because you have to call the MP center and credit the miles manually, not worth the risk to me.
Never mind, found a thread showing that its still up in the air because you have to call the MP center and credit the miles manually, not worth the risk to me.
Last edited by JetSetDave; Apr 2, 2014 at 8:57 am Reason: Found answer
Apr 2, 2014, 8:49 am
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Is this available through any of the online travel agencies where a cashback opportunity would available? There's enough money involved here that cashback would also be worthwhile.
I know Flyertalkers like premium travel, but to me this is still a lot of dinero. It's really only worth it if you want to travel to Europe this summer, were planning on going anyway and don't have good award travel opportunities. This way, you can basically fly to Europe in biz class for about the same price as a coach ticket (which are expensive in summer).
I'm not going to be buying myself, but I am recommending the fare to affluent friends who don't play the mileage game. Also to business travelers.
I know Flyertalkers like premium travel, but to me this is still a lot of dinero. It's really only worth it if you want to travel to Europe this summer, were planning on going anyway and don't have good award travel opportunities. This way, you can basically fly to Europe in biz class for about the same price as a coach ticket (which are expensive in summer).
I'm not going to be buying myself, but I am recommending the fare to affluent friends who don't play the mileage game. Also to business travelers.
Apr 2, 2014, 9:07 am
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Not sure if you can bail at IAD. Whenever I take UA overseas they always divide out the transfers to another process. Not sure what that process is but I understand if you go through the new Customs/Immigration not in the main terminal that it is possible. However, I ALWAYS get routed through to the main terminal where that isn't an option. There are flights to FCO from BWI through ORD.
Hopefully someone can help tell you and me how to bail if you have checked bags at Dulles. I'd only try it with carryon based on my experience.
Hopefully someone can help tell you and me how to bail if you have checked bags at Dulles. I'd only try it with carryon based on my experience.
Remove your bag tags after customs and say "I am home"
Apr 2, 2014, 9:15 am
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If you have a chance, I would try and SDC the AUS-DEN flight to whatever is earlier. As already mentioned, you will not make the connection if your RJ is delayed. It can take 10-12 minutes just to reach the train, and then you have the train ride, plus exiting and running to the gate. Big risk, imo.