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Old Nov 14, 12, 2:41 pm   #1
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[FARE GONE] UA: SFO-CLE $178 RT all in

Tue/Wed only thru Feb. Other days $15 more each way.

Price is for nonstop flights. Connections (e.g., SFO-IAH-CLE) about $9 more each way.
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Old Nov 14, 12, 3:05 pm   #2
 
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Tue/Wed only thru Feb. Other days $15 more each way.

Price is for nonstop flights. Connections (e.g., SFO-IAH-CLE) about $9 more each way.
If you would include the number of miles, others could figure out for themselves the cpm without going to look up that denominator for themselves. I presume that the miles were stated when you looked at that itinerary. Or, of course, you could include the cpm in your title.
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If you would include the number of miles, others could figure out for themselves the cpm without going to look up that denominator for themselves. I presume that the miles were stated when you looked at that itinerary. Or, of course, you could include the cpm in your title.
Thanks for posting, OP!

I understand that there is always the fear that someone else may post it first :-).
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If you would include the number of miles, others could figure out for themselves the cpm without going to look up that denominator for themselves. I presume that the miles were stated when you looked at that itinerary. Or, of course, you could include the cpm in your title.
Are you kidding? Channa is one of the legends in the field of MRing, and you are being critical of how he posted this? Have you not read the MR Deals forum lately? It's like a ghost town, cause all the cool kids took their deals underground or at a minimum to the Trickster thread.

This is a really good deal, and not just because it includes one of my 'focus' cities..... Thanks Channa!
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Are you kidding? Channa is one of the legends in the field of MRing, and you are being critical of how he posted this? Have you not read the MR Deals forum lately? It's like a ghost town, cause all the cool kids took their deals underground or at a minimum to the Trickster thread.

This is a really good deal, and not just because it includes one of my 'focus' cities..... Thanks Channa!
So you think it is too much trouble to include as part of the title the number of miles and/or the cpm, or that that information isn't of fundamental importance to MRers? You'd rather not see titles "cluttered" with that information? If one determines that the fare is there for the taking, they don't at the same time see the number of miles, which they could include easily enough along with airline, city pair, and price?

This was not meant to be a criticism of Channa, whose efforts are much appreciated; it was meant to encourage everyone to include the basics (and I think miles and/or cpm are basics) in their titles.
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So you think it is too much trouble to include as part of the title the number of miles and/or the cpm, or that that information isn't of fundamental importance to MRers? You'd rather not see titles "cluttered" with that information? If one determines that the fare is there for the taking, they don't at the same time see the number of miles, which they could include easily enough along with airline, city pair, and price?
Honestly, the way I see it is it's sub-$200 transcon or near-transcon fare, and someone who is serious about going or MRing will see it at face value. These are large markets where U.S. MRers should know the approximate distance between. Someone who needs to calculate the CPM to the fractional penny can do a smidge of legwork and figure it out based on their own circumstances.

In this case, the CPM varies based on nonstop or connection, and which connection. It varies by status (e.g., 1Ks get 100% bonus, Golds get 50% bonus). On this fare, there is a slightly higher fare for non-midweek travel, so if you can't do midweek, that affects the CPM as well. There are just too many variable to post CPM accurately.
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In this case, the CPM varies based on nonstop or connection, and which connection. It varies by status (e.g., 1Ks get 100% bonus, Golds get 50% bonus). On this fare, there is a slightly higher fare for non-midweek travel, so if you can't do midweek, that affects the CPM as well. There are just too many variable to post CPM accurately.
First, I think it is generally about the lowest possible cpm, not how much the cpm will go up if one can't fly at the most favorable times, though that may be helpful for those who can't. (If the lowest cpm is stated, it is fairly easy to arrive at how the higher fare will change things.)

And, isn't it generally accepted here that when we are talking about "cpm," unless otherwise specified, it is about cpEQM or cpPQM or whatever it is for "elite qualifying" miles, not about cpRDM, the latter varying according to elite status?
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Honestly, the way I see it is it's sub-$200 transcon or near-transcon fare, and someone who is serious about going or MRing will see it at face value. These are large markets where U.S. MRers should know the approximate distance between. Someone who needs to calculate the CPM to the fractional penny can do a smidge of legwork and figure it out based on their own circumstances.

In this case, the CPM varies based on nonstop or connection, and which connection. It varies by status (e.g., 1Ks get 100% bonus, Golds get 50% bonus). On this fare, there is a slightly higher fare for non-midweek travel, so if you can't do midweek, that affects the CPM as well. There are just too many variable to post CPM accurately.
Precisely. If somebody cannot recognize that a <$200 transcon is a deal, then they should probably get out of the game!

Personally, I don't trust the CPM that most FTers post, because either a.) they posted something that is too good and not really bookable or more likely b.) they posted something too low because they don't know how to get a double connection that includes both coasts.
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Honestly, the way I see it is it's sub-$200 transcon or near-transcon fare, and someone who is serious about going or MRing will see it at face value.
Exactly
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Fare gone? Can't seem to reproduce it.
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Tue/Wed only thru Feb. Other days $15 more each way.

Price is for nonstop flights. Connections (e.g., SFO-IAH-CLE) about $9 more each way.
Thank you for this

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Honestly, the way I see it is it's sub-$200 transcon or near-transcon fare, and someone who is serious about going or MRing will see it at face value. .....
Agreed

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Fare gone? Can't seem to reproduce it.
It's still here as I just booked a Friday night redeye/Saturday return 2/8-9 SFO-LAX-CLE/CLE-IAD-SFO for $224.70 before voucher
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Are you kidding? Channa is one of the legends in the field of MRing, and you are being critical of how he posted this? Have you not read the MR Deals forum lately? It's like a ghost town, cause all the cool kids took their deals underground or at a minimum to the Trickster thread.

This is a really good deal, and not just because it includes one of my 'focus' cities..... Thanks Channa!
Pardon not knowing - what is the trickster thread?
Thanks.
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Pardon not knowing - what is the trickster thread?
Thanks.
Depending on your perspective, it is either the most valuable thread on FT where experts share the most amazing deals in commercial aviation, each of which is encoded in riddles such that only a handful of other FTers can figure it out....... or the most useless thread on FT.

I'd wager that most FTers fall into one camp or the other -- there's not a lot of middle ground.

And if you have to ask.... you probably don't want to know.
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Thank you for this

Agreed

It's still here as I just booked a Friday night redeye/Saturday return 2/8-9 SFO-LAX-CLE/CLE-IAD-SFO for $224.70 before voucher
Still here for 12/7-12/8 as well.
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Tue/Wed only thru Feb. Other days $15 more each way.

Price is for nonstop flights. Connections (e.g., SFO-IAH-CLE) about $9 more each way.
Thank you Channa for this great find!
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