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Old Jul 26, 06, 9:27 am   #1
 
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IAD-LAX $218 all in on AA

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Old Jul 26, 06, 10:18 am   #2
 
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This fare was around frequently last fall. Back then it was only available on the nonstops. Is that still the case?
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Old Jul 26, 06, 10:41 am   #3
 
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This fare was around frequently last fall. Back then it was only available on the nonstops. Is that still the case?
Yup .. looks like it.


Also AA has IAD-MEL for $1020 all in...a fantastic price
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Old Jul 26, 06, 10:48 am   #4
 
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i'm also seeing dates from IAD - LAX on DL for $197 all in with 1 stop
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Old Jul 26, 06, 11:30 am   #5
 
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i'm also seeing dates from IAD - LAX on DL for $197 all in with 1 stop
When? I don't see anything lower than $432 through the end of the year.
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I only see $200+ on AA as the cheapest. I'm not as savvy as some of you, but how did you get DL for under $200???
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I only see $200+ on AA as the cheapest. I'm not as savvy as some of you, but how did you get DL for under $200???
I don't see it either...maybe the fare was pulled already?
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Old Jul 26, 06, 11:55 am   #8
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I used to see this fare all the time last year and would thumb my nose at it but this year with fares going through the roof, its pretty good, I'll have to see if I can track some down and book them. these transcons are always full as well.. upgrades are tough to come by

Anyone have the farecodes/rules?

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Old Jul 26, 06, 11:56 am   #9
 
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When? I don't see anything lower than $432 through the end of the year.

on sidestep.com through orbitz dates in august - november ( ie. thur/fri - sun.)
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Fare Rules

FARE BASIS CODE
NA21DNR

BK CODE
N -

PENALTY
CANCELLATIONS TICKET IS NON-REFUNDABLE. NOTE - TICKET HAS NO VALUE UNLESS PASSENGER CANCELS TICKETED FLIGHT RESERVATIONS PRIOR TO TICKETED DEPARTURE TIME. CHANGES CHARGE USD 100.00 FOR REISSUE. NOTE - IF PASSENGER CANCELS TICKETED FLIGHT RESERVATION PRIOR TO TICKETED DEPARTURE TIME/ TRAVEL THAT IS REBOOKED IS VALID AS FOLLOWS. 1/WHOLLY UNUSED TICKETS ARE VALID PROVIDED TRAVEL COMMENCES WITHIN ONE YEAR FROM THE ORIGINAL TICKET ISSUE DATE OR 2/ PARTIALLY USED TICKETS ARE VALID PROVIDED TRAVEL IS COMPLETED WITHIN ONE YEAR FROM THE OUTBOUND TRAVEL DATE ON THE ORIGINAL TICKET. CHANGE FEE APPLIES. IF TICKETED FLIGHT RESERVATION IS NOT CANCELLED PRIOR TO TICKETED DEPARTURE TIME/ REBOOKING IS NOT PERMITTED AND THE TICKET HAS NO VALUE. --- FARE DIFFERENCE AND CHANGE FEE MUST BE PAID AND TICKETS MUST BE REISSUED WHEN ITINERARY IS REBOOKED. --- IF MULTIPLE CHANGES ARE MADE AT THE SAME TIME/ ONLY ONE CHANGE FEE WILL APPLY PER TICKET. IF FARES WITH DIFFERENT CHANGE FEES ARE COMBINED ON THE SAME TICKET/ THE HIGHEST FEE FOR THE FARE COMPONENTS IN THE CHANGED PRICEABLE UNIT/S/ WILL APPLY. --- I. PRIOR TO DEPARTURE - CHANGES TO ORIGINATING FLIGHT ON THE TICKET - THE ENTIRE TICKET MUST BE REPRICED WITH CURRENT NONREFUNDABLE FARES. AT LEAST ONE PRICEABLE UNIT ON THE NEW TICKET MUST CONTAIN NONREFUNDABLE FARES. ALL PROVISIONS OF THE NEW NONREFUNDABLE FARE/ I.E. ADV RSVN/ MIN/MAX STAY/ ETC MUST BE MET. ANY DIFFERENCE IN FARES PLUS THE CHANGE FEE MUST BE COLLECTED. IF THE REPRICE RESULTS IN A LOWER FARE/ THE DIFFERENCE IN FARES LESS THE CHANGE FEE MAY BE RETURNED IN THE FORM OF A NONREFUNDABLE TRAVEL VOUCHER VALID FOR TRAVEL VIA AA ONLY. THESE FARES MAY NOT BE UPGRADED TO A REFUNDABLE FARE TYPE. --- II. CHANGE TO CONTINUING/RETURN FLIGHTS WHEN THERE IS NO CHANGE TO ORIGIN/DESTINATION OR STOPOVERS. --- A. CHANGES MAY BE MADE FOR THE CHANGE FEE PROVIDED THE CHANGE MEETS ALL OTHER FARE RULES. ADVANCE PURCHASE IS MEASURED BETWEEN THE REISSUE DATE AND THE DEPARTURE DATE OF THE PRICEABLE UNIT. --- B. WHEN THE CHANGE VIOLATES THE TICKETED FARE RULES I.E. BLACKOUT DATES/ SEASON / TRAVEL DATES/ DEPARTURE TIME/ ETC THE FOLLOWING OPTIONS ARE AVAILABLE AND THE LOWEST SOLUTION WILL APPLY. --- B1. REPRICE THE CHANGED CONTINUING/RETURN FARE COMPONENTS WITH ONE WAY NONREFUNDABLE CURRENT FARES. ANY DIFFERENCE IN FARES PLUS THE CHANGE FEE MUST BE COLLECTED. IF THE REPRICE RESULTS IN A LOWER FARE THE DIFFERENCE IN FARES LESS THE CHANGE FEE MAY BE RETURNED IN THE FORM OF A NONREFUNDABLE TRAVEL VOUCHER VALID FOR TRAVEL VIA AA ONLY. ADVANCE PURCHASE IS MEASURED BETWEEN THE REISSUE DATE AND THE DEPARTURE DATE OF THE PRICEABLE UNIT. --- WHEN A NONREFUNDABLE FARE CANNOT BE FOUND/ THE PASSENGER MAY PURCHASE A REFUNDABLE FARE PROVIDED AT LEAST ONE PRICEABLE UNIT ON THE NEW TICKET CONTAINS NONREFUNDABLE FARES. --- III. CHANGES TO CONTINUING/RETURN FLIGHTS WHEN THERE IS A CHANGE TO ORIGIN/DESTINATION OR STOPOVERS. --- A. THE CONTINUING/RETURN SHOULD BE REPRICED WITH CURRENT NONREFUNDABLE FARES. ANY DIFFERENCE IN FARES PLUS THE CHANGE FEE MUST BE COLLECTED. IF THE REPRICE RESULTS IN A LOWER FARE THE DIFFERENCE IN FARES LESS THE CHANGE FEE MAY BE RETURNED IN THE FORM OF A NONREFUNDABLE TRAVEL VOUCHER VALID FOR TRAVEL VIA AA ONLY. ADVANCE PURCHASE IS MEASURED BETWEEN THE REISSUE DATE AND DEPARTURE DATE OF THE PRICEABLE UNIT. --- WHEN A NONREFUNDABLE FARE CANNOT BE FOUND THE PASSENGER MAY PURCHASE A REFUNDABLE FARE PROVIDED AT LEAST ONE PRICEABLE UNIT ON THE NEW TICKET CONTAINS NONREFUNDABLE FARES. --- IV. STANDBY - PASSENGERS HOLDING CONFIRMED RESERVATIONS AND TICKETS MAY STANDBY WITH NO FEE FOR EARLIER/LATER SAME DAY AA NONSTOP AND/OR CONNECTING FLIGHT/S BETWEEN THE SAME ORIGIN AND DESTINATION AIRPORTS PROVIDED --- A. THE ROUTING IS APPLICABLE FOR THE FARE CHARGED. --- B. IF THE CHANGE IS NOT APPLICABLE FOR THE FARE CHARGED /E.G. INVALID ROUTING/AIRPORT/ ETC/ THEN THE PASSENGER MUST PAY THE DIFFERENCE IN FARES PLUS THE CHANGE FEE. --- C. UNLESS RESTRICTED BY THE FARE CHARGED-WHEN TICKETED FROM/TO CHI/HOU/NYC/WAS-THE PSGR MAY CHECK-IN AND STANDBY FROM/TO ONE OF THE AIRPORTS LISTED BELOW. CITY - AIRPORT CHI - MDW/ORD HOU - HOU/IAH NYC - EWR/JFK/LGA WAS - DCA/IAD --- V. SAME DAY - CONFIRMED FLIGHT CHANGE/CFC/- PASSENGERS HOLDING CONFIRMED RESERVATIONS AND TICKETS IN INVENTORIES K/M/L/W/V/G/S/N/Q/O MAY CONFIRM TRAVEL ON AN ALTERNATE FLIGHT FOR A NONREFUNDABLE 25.00USD FEE WITHIN 3 HOURS OF THE ALTERNATE FLIGHT/S DEPARTURE TIME BASED ON THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS --- A.THERE IS NO CHANGE TO THE ORIGIN/DESTINATION OR STOPOVER POINTS. --- B.NEW FLIGHT/S/ AND ROUTING ARE PERMITTED PER THE TICKETED FARE RULE. --- C.ALL TRAVEL IS ON AMERICAN AIRLINES/ AMERICAN EAGLE AND AMERICAN CONNECTION. --- D.REQUESTS ARE MADE VIA AIRPORT SELF-SERVICE CHECK-IN/ TICKET COUNTERS /INCLUDING ADMIRALS CLUBS AND PREMIUM SERVICES/ OR BY CALLING AA RESERVATIONS. --- E.CHANGES PERMITTED TO OUTBOUND OR CONTINUING/ RETURN FLIGHTS. --- F.CONFIRMATION IS SUBJECT TO AVAILABILITY. ///--///--///--///--///--///--///--///--///--/// PASSENGERS TICKETED IN Y/B/H INVENTORIES MAY CONFIRM TRAVEL WITHIN 3 HOURS OF THE ALTERNATE FLIGHT/S DEPARTURE TIME FREE OF CHARGE FOLLOWING THE ABOVE CONDITIONS. ///--///--///--///--///--///--///--///--///--/// THE PROVISIONS FOR CHANGES OUTLINED IN SECTIONS I-III ABOVE APPLY TO REQUESTS MADE MORE THAN 3 HOURS IN ADVANCE OF THE ALTERNATE FLIGHT/S DEPARTURE TIME. --- VI. AFTER EACH TICKETED DEPARTURE TIME 1. NO CHANGES PERMITTED IF PASSENGER HAS NOT CANCELLED THE TICKETED FLIGHT RESERVATION. 2. TICKET HAS NO VALUE IF PASSENGER HAS NOT CANCELLED THE TICKETED FLIGHT RESERVATION. --- VII. IN THE CASE OF THE DEATH OF THE PASSENGER/ IMMEDIATE FAMILY MEMBER/ OR A TRAVELING COMPANION/ THE CHANGE FEE MAY BE WAIVED OR THE TICKET REFUNDED PROVIDED A COPY OF THE DEATH CERTIFICATE IS PRESENTED TO AA. REFUND WILL BE IN THE FORM OF A NONREFUNDABLE TRANSPORTATION VOUCHER THAT MAY BE USED FOR FUTURE TRAVEL ON AA ONLY. IN THE CASE OF THE PASSENGER/S DEATH THE REFUND WILL BE TO THE PASSENGER/S ESTATE VIA THE ORIGINAL FORM OF PAYMENT. ALL REFUND REQUESTS MUST BE SENT TO AA PASSENGER REFUNDS

RES/TKTG
RES MUST BE MADE NO LATER THAN 21 DAYS BEFORE DPTR FROM ORIGIN. TKT MUST BE PURCHASED NO LATER THAN 21 DAYS BEFORE DPTR FROM ORIGIN OR 1 DAY AFTER RES IS MADE, WHICHEVER COMES FIRST. SGMTS USING THIS RULE MUST MEET ADV TKTG. SGMTS USING THIS RULE MUST BE CONFIRMED.

SEASONS
NO SEASON RESTRICTIONS APPLY.

BLACKOUTS
NO BLACKOUT RESTRICTIONS APPLY.

FLT APPL
APPLIES TO ANY FLIGHT EXCEPT TO/FROM/VIA DAL.

STOPOVERS
NO ENROUTE STOPOVERS PERMITTED. A STOPOVER OCCURS WHEN THE PASSENGER DOES NOT DEPART AN INTERMEDIATE POINT WITHIN 4 HOURS.

TICKET RESTRICTIONS
TICKETS MAY BE ISSUED: BY TICKETS BY MAIL BY PTA AND SATISFIES TICKETING REQUIREMENTS NOTE: TICKETS MAY NOT BE ISSUED WITH SELF TICKETS/WRITE YOUR OWN TICKETS.

DISCOUNTS
NO FARE IS CHARGED FOR AN INF PSGR UNDER 2 YRS OF AGE NOT OCCUPYING A SEAT. INF PSGR MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL SGMTS BY AN ADT PSGR TRAVELING IN THE SAME COMPARTMENT. *** RULE 6020 DFR3 PSGR OCCUPYING TWO SEATS APPLIES.

REROUTE
SEE PENALTY.

TRANSFERS
UNLIMITED TRANSFERS AS PERMITTED ON THE ROUTING.

COMBINATIONS
CONDITIONS APPLICABLE TO CIRCLE TRIP/SINGLE OPEN JAW - -MAY BE COMBINED WITH ANY ONE WAY/ROUND TRIP FARE GOVERNED BY AACBR RULE 5999/7999 AND AA85R RULE 5999/7000/7920/7930/7940/7998/7999 AND ANY RULE IN CPR/DFR/IPRW/VPCR/VPDR VIA AA OR VIA ANY AA JOINT CARRIER COMBINATION. -WHEN COMBINED WITH LESSER OR NON-PENALTY AA FARES, APPEND NR TO THE FARE BASIS CODES OF THE LESSER OR NON-PENALTY FARE IN THE COMBINATION. -MOST RESTRICTIVE CONDITIONS APPLY. NOTE: WHEN COMBINED WITH OTHER FARES TO FORM ROUND/ CIRCLE/OPEN JAW TRIPS THE MOST RESTRICTIVE CONDITIONS APPLY. THESE INCLUDE MINIMUM/MAXIMUM STAY /RESERVATION/TICKETING REQUIREMENTS/STOPOVER PROVISIONS/AND CANCELLATION/CHANGE PENALTIES/ SERVICE CHARGES OR COMBINATION PROVISIONS. WHEN TWO STOPOVERS ARE MADE IF NO COMBINABLE FARE IS AVAILABLE ON THE SHORTEST SECTOR FLOWN ANY APPLICABLE ONE WAY FARE MAY BE USED END-ON-END AND WILL NOT TAKE ON THE CONDITIONS OF THE MOST RESTRICTIVE FARE. ADDITIONAL CONDITIONS APPLY CIRCLE TRIP - -PERMITTED. -MAXIMUM OF 2 STOPOVERS PERMITTED. OPEN JAW - -SINGLE OPEN JAW PERMITTED AT EITHER ORIGIN OR DESTINATION. -THE MILEAGE OF THE SHORTEST FLOWN SECTOR MUST BE EQUAL TO/GREATER THAN THE MILEAGE BETWEEN THE POINTS OF THE OPEN JAW. THE TWO POINTS OF AN OPEN JAW COUNT AS TWO STOPOVERS. END-ON-END - -PERMITTED. TRAVEL MUST BE VIA THE FARE COMBINATION POINT. CO-TERMINALS - -THE FOLLOWING GROUPS OF CITIES ARE CONSIDERED TO BE THE SAME POINT BUR - SNA - LAX - ONT - LGB, EWR - HPN - ISP - NYC, OAK - SFO - SJC, BWI - WAS, FLL - MIA.

OPEN RTN
NOT ALLOWED.

REFUNDS
SEE PENALTY.

CO-TERMINALS
-THE FOLLOWING GROUPS OF CITIES ARE CONSIDERED TO BE THE SAME POINT BUR - SNA - LAX - ONT - LGB, EWR - HPN - ISP - NYC, OAK - SFO - SJC, BWI - WAS, FLL - MIA.

MISC - NOTE
1.STANDBY - PASSENGERS HOLDING CONFIRMED RESERVATIONS AND TICKETS MAY STANDBY FOR EARLIER/LATER SAME DAY AA NONSTOP AND/OR CONNECTING FLIGHTS BETWEEN THE SAME ORIGIN AND DESTINATION AIRPORTS WITHOUT CHARGE PROVIDED THE ROUTING IS APPLICABLE FOR THE FARE CHARGED. --- A.WHEN TICKETED TO/FROM CHI/HOU/NYC/WAS -- CHECK FLIGHT APPLICATION FOR ANY AIRPORT RESTRICTION. ///---///---///---///---///---///---///---///---// 2.SAME DAY - CONFIRMED FLIGHT CHANGE/CFC/ - PASSENGERS HOLDING CONFIRMED RESERVATIONS AND TICKETS IN INVENTORIES K/M/L/W/V/G/S/N/Q/O MAY CONFIRM TRAVEL ON AN ALTERNATE FLIGHT FOR A NONREFUNDABLE 25.00USD FEE WITHIN 3 HOURS OF THE ALTERNATE FLIGHT/S DEPARTURE TIME BASED ON THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS --- A.THERE IS NO CHANGE TO THE ORIGIN/DESTINATION OR STOPOVER POINTS. B.NEW FLIGHT/S/ AND ROUTING ARE PERMITTED PER THE TICKETED FARE RULE. C.ALL TRAVEL IS ON AMERICAN AIRLINES/ AMERICAN EAGLE AND AMERICAN CONNECTION. D.REQUESTS ARE MADE VIA AIRPORT SELF-SERVICE CHECK-IN/ TICKET COUNTERS /INCLUDING ADMIRALS CLUBS AND PREMIUM SERVICES/ OR BY CALLING AA RESERVATIONS. E.CHANGES PERMITTED TO OUTBOUND OR CONTINUING/ RETURN FLIGHTS. F.CONFIRMATION IS SUBJECT TO AVAILABILITY. ///--///--///--///--///--///--///--///--///--/// PASSENGERS TICKETED IN Y/B/H INVENTORIES MAY CONFIRM TRAVEL WITHIN 3 HOURS OF THE ALTERNATE FLIGHT/S DEPARTURE TIME FREE OF CHARGE FOLLOWING THE ABOVE CONDITIONS. ///--///--///--///--///--///--///--///--///--/// REQUESTS MADE MORE THAN 3 HOURS IN ADVANCE OF THE ALTERNATE FLIGHT/S DEPARTURE TIME WILL BE PROCESSED FOLLOWING THE GUIDELINES FOR RESERVATION CHANGES/ WHICH INCLUDE COLLECTION OF APPLICABLE CHANGE FEES PLUS DIFFERENCE IN FARE. SEE PENALTIES ///--///--///--///--///--///--///--///--///--/// 3. OPEN RETURN NOT PERMITTED

And the bad news:

Routing Rules

FARE BASIS CODE
NA21DNR

QTE F/B BK FARE EFF EXP TKT AP MIN/MAX RTG
1 - NA21DNR N X 99.00 - - - ?? -/ - 501
501 TRAVEL MUST BE NONSTOP
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Old Jul 26, 06, 12:31 pm   #11
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confused

Don't these terms contradict each other???

In the end I think it applies to N/S only but wouldn't the first two rules indicate that as long as you don't transfer at DAL you are ok????


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FLT APPL
APPLIES TO ANY FLIGHT EXCEPT TO/FROM/VIA DAL.

TRANSFERS
UNLIMITED TRANSFERS AS PERMITTED ON THE ROUTING.

And the bad news:

Routing Rules

FARE BASIS CODE
NA21DNR

QTE F/B BK FARE EFF EXP TKT AP MIN/MAX RTG
1 - NA21DNR N X 99.00 - - - ?? -/ - 501
501 TRAVEL MUST BE NONSTOP
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Old Jul 26, 06, 1:26 pm   #12
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Don't these terms contradict each other???

In the end I think it applies to N/S only but wouldn't the first two rules indicate that as long as you don't transfer at DAL you are ok????
I believe the routing rules take precedent.

The fare rules might apply to more than one specific fare, perhaps?
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Old Jul 26, 06, 1:30 pm   #13
 
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on sidestep.com through orbitz dates in august - november ( ie. thur/fri - sun.)
Ah yes, I see them there. Very strange, they can be booked on Orbitz but do not show up on ITA.

Incidentally, they can also be booked on Delta.com for $191 R/T all in.
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Old Jul 26, 06, 4:19 pm   #14
 
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Routing Restriction Records do override the Routing Map

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I believe the routing rules take precedent.

The fare rules might apply to more than one specific fare, perhaps?
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I don't see anything that says its not valid on Sunday, but I can't get this to work using a Sunday return. Is this valid on Sunday, Anyone know?
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