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Old Jan 16, 04, 9:17 pm   #16
 
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by fly co to see the yanks:
what the heck is "graft?" uh oh, i hope it's not another flyertalk abbreviation (uoihinafa).

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I hate to ask but what is "uoihinafa"
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Old Jan 16, 04, 11:17 pm   #17
 
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by rbAA:
That which you render unto Caesar.</font>
I believe rbAA is referring to Passenger Facility Charges, Airport Usage Fees, and the September 11 Security Fee, correct?



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Old Jan 16, 04, 11:28 pm   #18
 
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Main Entry: graft
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: the acquisition of gain (as money) in dishonest or questionable ways; also : illegal or unfair gain
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Old Jan 17, 04, 4:14 pm   #20
 
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You are the Mileage Run planning champion. If you actually do it you will become

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Old Jan 17, 04, 5:58 pm   #21
 
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rbAA, I have some questions for you. If I multiply the 9 segments by 10000m I get 27,000m plus the 25% bonus for a total of 33,750. How did you get the 43,117 ?
Also, which airline honor LH SENATOR status (such as E+, Priority boarding, upgrades,etc) ?
Do you buy the airrail directly from LH?
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Old Jan 17, 04, 6:42 pm   #22
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According to gc.kls2.com SFO-PIT is 2254 miles, and the LH minimum applies on a segment basis.

Added: ... and the tier bonus is multiplicative ie times 3.75 for F

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Old Jan 18, 04, 1:31 am   #23
 
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by skywalk:
rbAA, I have some questions for you. If I multiply the 9 segments by 10000m I get 27,000m plus the 25% bonus for a total of 33,750. How did you get the 43,117 ?
Also, which airline honor LH SENATOR status (such as E+, Priority boarding, upgrades,etc) ?
Do you buy the airrail directly from LH?
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See KiwiFlyers' response. 7 segments are under the 1000 mile minimum and the SFO-PIT-SFO is 4490. With the FTL bonus, it comes to 375% of the 11490 miles. SEN is *A Gold and useful for lounge access. The award chart permits UPG's on UA domestic flights for 10,000 LH miles, from any fare. I haven't seem any restricts on UPG's on codeshares, as LH has their numbers on many US and UA flights.

Probably this is not the way to go if you want to fly UA to Asia. But then, SFO-EUROPE-ASIA makes a nice CMR and can be easily done on LH.

AirRail RT's can be purchased from LH but not from the US at the low price. I bought mine from a Travel Agent in Germany who e-tix and accepts credit cards on a secure site.

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Old Jan 19, 04, 1:34 am   #24
 
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You may want to try and swing through SFO if that doesn't exceed the maximum milage restriction. In any case, It's looks like wuth the 3X bonus (4x total on the FLY04 promo), I should get roughly 490,000 for $5248. There are a few other miles I have not factored in like converting earned "sticker" upgrades which could get me another 20K miles (40 stickers at 500 miles each). I know, that is not a good use of upgrade stickers... which is why I am only using that as an example.

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Old Jan 19, 04, 12:41 pm   #25
 
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">does LH have anything like VIPOWs?</font>
Kind of. LH gives you a e-Voucher every 50K status-miles in your account once you become SEN. One voucher is good for a continental upgrade, two for a systemwide-upgrade on LH/OS/LO. Converted to paper these vouchers can be used for stand-by one-segment-upgrades on UA (one for domestic, two intercontinental).

The best thing about them is however that they never expire, even if you loose your status...no need to spend them by a defined date. And they are good on any fare.

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Old Jan 19, 04, 3:20 pm   #26
 
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I am in awe of you! I don't know that I could do this mileage run in coach. If I could get time off from work, I ccould see doing it in C or F, but I just don't know if I could stand coach back and forth. One other consideration is that will you be tired after the runs, and have difficulty just running in to your office, etc. Sounds like a good adventure though!
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Old Jan 20, 04, 1:42 am   #27
 
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OK – here it goes - I have ticketed all of the following itineraries:

Jan 24 AA 2373 MDW-DFW
Jan 24 AA 78 DFW-LGW
Jan 25 AA 79 LGW-DFW
Jan 25 AA 1036 DFW-MDW
$495.49 L class ticket 11,136 (Qualify for FLY04)

Jan 31 AA1342 ORD-MIA
Jan 31 AA1400 MIA-JFK
Jan 31 AA 132 JFK-LHR
Feb 1 AA 101 LHR-JFK
Feb 1 AA 423 JFK-MIA (EUR04 + FLY04)
Feb 1 AA1139 MIA-ORD (First half of AANYC)
$728.10 M class 11,476 (Completes Platinum challenge)

Feb 7th weekend – I’m busy

Feb 14 AA 2329 ORD-DFW
Feb 14 AA 78 DFW-LGW
Feb 15 AA 79 LGW-DFW (FLY04)
Feb 15 AA 2372 DFW-ORD
$ 622.10 V class 11,145

Feb 21 AA1131 MDW-DFW
Feb 21 AA1802 DFW-RDU
Feb 21 AA174 RDU-LGW
Feb 22 AA173 LGW-RDU
Feb 22 AA1171 RDU-DFW
Feb 22 AA2376 DFW-ORD
$626.10 V class 11,506 (FLY04)

Feb 28 AA 1048 ORD-MIA
Feb 28 AA 914 MIA-JFK
Feb 28 AA 100 JFK-LHR
Feb 29 AA 101 LHR-JFK (Second half of AANYC)
Feb 29 AA 423 JFK-MIA (FLY04 + EUR04)
Feb 29 AA 1139 MIA-ORD
$698.20 M class 11,476


Mar 6 AA 1048 ORD-MIA
Mar 6 AA 914 MIA-JFK
Mar 6 AA 100 JFK-LHR
Mar 7 AA 101 LHR-JFK
Mar 7 AA 423 JFK-MIA
Mar 7 AA 1139 MIA-ORD (FLY04 + EUR04)
$698.20 M class 11,476 (First half second AANYC)


The following itineraries are on hold – I will probably ticket them all tonight unless someone has better flight options that price out I should look at.

Mar 11 AA 729 ORD-LAX
Mar 11 AA 30 LAX-JFK
Mar 12 AA 167 JFK-NRT
1 day in Tokyo to enjoy
Mar 14 AA 128 NRT-SJC
Mar 14 AA 288 SJC-JFK
2 L class tickets: $268.20 + $474.20 L class
$742.40 (Will credit these to Alaska; 18688 Q miles x 2.5)
(2x promo + MVP bonus = 46720 Alaska miles)
(gets me to JFK and gets me started on MVP Gold)

24 hours to enjoy NYC

Mar 15 AA 1411 JFK-MIA
Mar 16 AA 153 MIA-ORD
Mar 16 AA 153 ORD-NRT
Mar 17 AA 6115 NRT-HKG
Mar 18 AA 6116 HKG-NRT
Mar 18 AA 154 NRT-ORD
Mar 18 AA 154 ORD-MIA
Mar 19 AA 518 MIA-JFK (FLY04, JPN04, AANYC)
$1004.50 M class 17052 miles on AA
3684 codeshare

20 hours to enjoy NYC

Mar 20 AA 701 LGA-DFW
Mar 20 AA 1101 DFW-SJC
Mar 20 AA 129 SJC-NRT
Mar 21 AA 6113 NRT-HKG
Mar 22 AA 6116 HKG-NRT
Mar 22 AA 128 NRT-SJC
Mar 22 AA 3198 SJC-LAX
Mar 22 AA 32 LAX-JFK (FLY04, JPN04)
$963.50 M class
16111 miles on AA
3684 codeshare

32 hours to enjoy NYC

Mar 24 AA 287 JFK-SJC
Mar 24 AA 129 SJC-NRT
Mar 25 AA 6113 NRT-HKG
A day to see a tiny bit of the city
Mar 27 AA 6116 HKG-NRT
Mar 27 AA 128 NRT-SJC
Mar 27 AA 2218 SJC-ORD (FLY04, JPN04)
$963.50 M class (Gets me back to CHI)
14707 miles on AA
3684 codeshare


THEN, NO MORE FLYING FOR ME! (Atleast for a few days )

$6799.69 spent
507,278 AA miles earned
= 1.34 cents/mile

(Not bad for someone starting with 0 status, based in Chicago where it is arguable harder to the most miles/$, and planning their first mileage runs, eh?)


Total flown miles credit to AA: 127,131
Eligible for FLY04 bonus: 104,943
Eligible for Plat bonus: 110,261
EUR04 bonus: 30,000
JPN04 bonus: 30,000

127,131 + 104,943 x 2 + 110,261 + 30,000 + 30,000 = 507,278 AA miles earned

Other benefits include:
- 16 VIPOW system wide upgrades
- approximately 50 500 mile domestic upgrades
- Two certificates for a free AA flight worldwide
- This brings me within 40K of being an AA million miler
- The many benefits of One World top tier status through 05


I will also credit 18688 flown miles to Alaska, giving me a total of 46,720 Alaska miles for $742.40 – 1.59 cents per mile (higher because one flight is a positioning flight so I can start runs)

Thanks to everyone who gave me input helping me plan this!


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Old Jan 20, 04, 1:57 am   #28
 
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by CART_Flagman:
You may want to try and swing through SFO if that doesn't exceed the maximum milage restriction. In any case, It's looks like with the 3X bonus (4x total on the FLY04 promo), I should get roughly 490,000 for $5248.
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Wow, 1.07 cents per mile! I'm impressed! I wonder if such a thing would be possible from Chicago given I can't fly midweek most of the time, and the MPM is set at a measly 4740 for Chicago-London fares, meaning I have to pay extra even routing through MIA or DFW! And I am starting with status and 0 Q miles - making my first flight more expensive/mile earned. Maybe its possible - but I will leave that up to someone else to prove!
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Old Feb 1, 04, 9:01 am   #29
 
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by tvl4free:

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Nobody got it, I guess.

The correct response was, 'MEEEEE.' You needed MEEEE for this one. LOL.

Bumped, just cause I think this was such a great post! I really liked the effort that the poster put into it before posting. And then there was his little 'thank you' offering - which demonstrated a very classy touch... We don't see that here much, anymore.

Again, thanks for the interesting read/ride. May you get all ur status and miles - and then some.





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Old Feb 1, 04, 10:24 am   #30
 
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$5,000 - $7,000 on true mileage runs...that's grueling, but a nice payoff.

I'm still considering committing to 200,000 miles in 6 itineraries and a free UA sytemwide ticket and 1 AA systemwide tickets with two 6 day trips to Bangkok and Singapore from the East Coast for $2,150. The triple miles bonus and the low fares from East Coast to Asia allow feasible routings for accrual of 88,000 miles (an elite getting 4x flight miles) for $600 using the UA 15% off coupons.

SFO-JFK UA 2RT tickets ($550) (free UA ticket and 10 K miles qualifying for 3x promo) done in January.
10Kx2 = 20,000 miles

SFO-NYC, NYC-MIA 2 RT tickets
$400 (free AA ticket)8Kx2 =16,000 miles

MIA-LAX-NRT-BKK-LAX-SFO-MIA $600 (V class)22Kx4 = 88,000 miles

repeat to BKK or SIN $600
22Kx4 = 88,000 miles

196,000 UA miles, 16,000 AA miles,
1 UA ticket, 1 AA ticket
$2,150

Flying from the West Coast provides about 73,000 miles for a BKK trip for $595. It is still a good cost/mile ratio.

With luck I can do all the UA portions, except for the intra-California flights, in 767-300, 777, 747 business class.



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