AA: LAX-BKK from $797 a.i.
Nov 28, 2014, 11:31 am
#16
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 17
I called them. The problem is with the JAL flights from NRT to BKK. There's an issue with that. If you try to book any of the flights not including a JAL leg, those will work. Unfortunately they're also much more expensive. The AAgent and I tried a bunch of stuff and he ended up deducing that the discount was the result of the JAL flights publishing a deeply discounted fare which AA can actually not sell, hence the error.
Too bad, was an awesome run.
Too bad, was an awesome run.
Nov 28, 2014, 12:10 pm
#18
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Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: RDU
Posts: 713
I called them. The problem is with the JAL flights from NRT to BKK. There's an issue with that. If you try to book any of the flights not including a JAL leg, those will work. Unfortunately they're also much more expensive. The AAgent and I tried a bunch of stuff and he ended up deducing that the discount was the result of the JAL flights publishing a deeply discounted fare which AA can actually not sell, hence the error.
Too bad, was an awesome run.
Too bad, was an awesome run.
For example, if you go to www.americanairlines.de (you can set the language to English in the top right corner), LAX-NRT-BKK-NRT-LAX all with AA flight numbers 1/26 -1/29 prices out as 633 Euros (US$787) all the way up to the passenger details screen. I did not proceed further but you could try.
Nov 28, 2014, 3:06 pm
#20
Join Date: May 2006
Location: SAN
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I called them. The problem is with the JAL flights from NRT to BKK. There's an issue with that. If you try to book any of the flights not including a JAL leg, those will work. Unfortunately they're also much more expensive. The AAgent and I tried a bunch of stuff and he ended up deducing that the discount was the result of the JAL flights publishing a deeply discounted fare which AA can actually not sell, hence the error.
Too bad, was an awesome run.
Too bad, was an awesome run.
Nov 28, 2014, 5:47 pm
#21
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AA doesn't kill the fare, the lowest fares just sell out. After all it is AA that has put the price there in the first place...this isn't a glitch.
Nov 29, 2014, 9:02 am
#22
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: SEA
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Then why does the U.S. site often have an "this flight is no longer available" error but the .de site allows you to book the identical itn?
Nov 29, 2014, 1:15 pm
#23
Join Date: Jan 2008
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P.S. Everything was booked as an AA flight or AA (operated by JL) except the return leg BKK to NRT, which was booked in code S (50% instead of 100%, but who cares at this point).
Nov 29, 2014, 8:02 pm
#24
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This is a well known and well documented system problem which has existed for over a year. I circumvent it by using the Hong Kong AA site.
Nov 30, 2014, 9:26 am
#25
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Wow. Thanks for the tip. I'll be sure to look into using that the next time, but I'm less certain that I would've gotten a cheaper fare given my travel dates.
Dec 3, 2014, 9:38 am
#27
Join Date: May 2006
Location: SAN
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No, the routing I posted is about the max.
Routing Details
Search: Departing LAX on 02/01/15 for BKK
Fare basis code QLX7F8N1
Flying AA
Routing via Pacific
V FARE BASIS BK FARE TRAVEL-TICKET AP MINMAX RTG
1 QLX7F8N1 Q‡R 236.00 T31DE 7/3 3/ 6M PA01
PASSENGER TYPE-ADT AUTO PRICE-YES
FROM-LAX TO-BKK CXR-AA TVL-01FEB15 RULE-PA05 IPRP/3
FARE BASIS-QLX7F8N1 SPECIAL FARE DIS-E VENDOR-ATP
FARE TYPE-XPN RT-INSTANT PURCHASE NONREFUNDABLE-TYPE FARES
USD 236.00 MPM E24SEP14 D-INFINITY FC-QLX7F8N1 FN-25
SYSTEM DATES - CREATED 23SEP14/1028 EXPIRES INFINITY
PUBLISHED RTG LAX-BKK/AA EF-24SEP14 DIS-INDEF
/VIA THE PACIFIC/ MPM 9907
MILEAGE SYSTEM APPLIES BETWEEN ORIGIN AND DESTINATION
MILEAGE SYSTEM APPLIES ORIGIN TO DESTINATION
TICKETED POINT DEDUCTION OF 800 MILES APPLIES
WHEN TRAVEL IS VIA HNL
TICKETED POINT DEDUCTION OF 300 MILES APPLIES
WHEN TRAVEL IS VIA LAX
Search: Departing LAX on 02/01/15 for BKK
Fare basis code QLX7F8N1
Flying AA
Routing via Pacific
V FARE BASIS BK FARE TRAVEL-TICKET AP MINMAX RTG
1 QLX7F8N1 Q‡R 236.00 T31DE 7/3 3/ 6M PA01
PASSENGER TYPE-ADT AUTO PRICE-YES
FROM-LAX TO-BKK CXR-AA TVL-01FEB15 RULE-PA05 IPRP/3
FARE BASIS-QLX7F8N1 SPECIAL FARE DIS-E VENDOR-ATP
FARE TYPE-XPN RT-INSTANT PURCHASE NONREFUNDABLE-TYPE FARES
USD 236.00 MPM E24SEP14 D-INFINITY FC-QLX7F8N1 FN-25
SYSTEM DATES - CREATED 23SEP14/1028 EXPIRES INFINITY
PUBLISHED RTG LAX-BKK/AA EF-24SEP14 DIS-INDEF
/VIA THE PACIFIC/ MPM 9907
MILEAGE SYSTEM APPLIES BETWEEN ORIGIN AND DESTINATION
MILEAGE SYSTEM APPLIES ORIGIN TO DESTINATION
TICKETED POINT DEDUCTION OF 800 MILES APPLIES
WHEN TRAVEL IS VIA HNL
TICKETED POINT DEDUCTION OF 300 MILES APPLIES
WHEN TRAVEL IS VIA LAX
Dec 3, 2014, 11:51 am
#28
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Dec 4, 2014, 2:21 am
#29
Join Date: Nov 2009
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Thanks for your response skunker. Thinking about doing a US airways Chairman preferred challenge to get to 30,000 flown miles quickly with minimum flights. Thinking of booking a flight with the routing you proposed and adding a LAX-DCA-LAX mileage run to make up the difference.
Any tips on if there could be a better way to hit the 30k target? Should I be looking at shorter flights on US airways metal rather than AA to increase my chances of upgrades etc?
Any tips on if there could be a better way to hit the 30k target? Should I be looking at shorter flights on US airways metal rather than AA to increase my chances of upgrades etc?
Dec 4, 2014, 6:15 am
#30
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Thanks for your response skunker. Thinking about doing a US airways Chairman preferred challenge to get to 30,000 flown miles quickly with minimum flights. Thinking of booking a flight with the routing you proposed and adding a LAX-DCA-LAX mileage run to make up the difference.
Any tips on if there could be a better way to hit the 30k target? Should I be looking at shorter flights on US airways metal rather than AA to increase my chances of upgrades etc?
Any tips on if there could be a better way to hit the 30k target? Should I be looking at shorter flights on US airways metal rather than AA to increase my chances of upgrades etc?