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Note: There is a known miscoding on ITA and elsewhere, where fares on EI (Aer Lingus) are showing as being in first class. This is not correct, as Aer Lingus does not offer first class. If you see this fare, please ignore it and do not post it here as it is completely unbookable in every sense of the term. The mods are summarily deleting these posts in order to unclutter the thread.

Note: There is a known miscoding on ITA and elsewhere, where Z fares on EY (Etihad) are showing as being in first class. This is not correct, as Z fares are discount business on EY. These fares will not receive chaffeur service. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/etihad-airways-etihad-guest/1622229-removal-chauffeur-service-some-business-class-passengers.html

List of known, active deals:

JNB-DXB-SFO in EK F, $4k-ish one-way
MLE-HKG-US (various) in C, $1400 +/- available only on CX's website.
CMB-MIA, other US cities, for about $4400 in F, round-trip/return

BA AARP $400 discount for J/F bookings is now valid again for booking until 31 Oct 2014 but departure to EOS seems to get the discount. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/british-airways-executive-club/1435816-ba-fare-discounts-aarp-4.html

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Feb 1, 2014, 2:29 am

#376

1k650

Join Date: May 2003

Programs: UA1k; Bonvoy Titanium; Hilton Gold; IHG Gold; AA Plat Pro

Posts: 1,794

Quote:

Originally Posted by stephem

GF DLRTINN MAA to SEA/SFO/LAX about $2300 a/i round trip

Less a pure mileage run, but bear with me... can be a good way to get a flat bed most of the way from India to the US at a pretty good fare and numerous segments on AA 77W/32T (everything from EU onward is AA metal). Yields AA RDM (125%), but no EQM/P. Obviously, you can't get the 77W or even 32T segments for this price from AA ;-)

I'm not an expert on GF, but looks like their A330 to LHR has flat beds (MAA-BAH and BAH-MAA legs use a 320 that may flat beds in front).

Allows one free stopover in BAH or EU (ok, now it gets even more interesting).

No travel June/July/August.

Use ITA and just code in GF+ to see the full scope of the AA metal you can work into these fares.

Does this also work from Del ?

Feb 1, 2014, 4:11 am

#377

privacylawyer

Join Date: Feb 2012

Location: North America

Programs: DL Diamond, former UA1K MM lifetime (left UA for DL), FPCPlat, DL Biz and Plat Amex

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ita and hipmunk not responding last night to me

Quote:

Originally Posted by Explore

Hipmunk isn't working for me, using the ITA language. The site translates the code into English (nice!) but consistently can't find any results like ITA matrix can. I get the "Oh Nuts" screen every time. And why does it scroll through multiple airline sites when aa.com is the only one worth checking?

Does anyone know how to get Hipmunk to work?

Had problems with both ita and hipmunk last night (EU time), got oh nuts on everything hipmunk and problem with the search on ita. might have been down for other reasons.

Feb 1, 2014, 6:27 am

#378

PHLGovFlyer

Join Date: Feb 2005

Location: PHL

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Posts: 5,036

Quote:

Originally Posted by privacylawyer

Had problems with both ita and hipmunk last night (EU time), got oh nuts on everything hipmunk and problem with the search on ita. might have been down for other reasons.

I'm running into similar problems where Hipmunk will only return the 'oh nuts'. However, in my case ITA will return the perfect flight combination and price so apparently it's out there but I just can't purchase it

Feb 1, 2014, 7:04 am

#379

NA-Flyer

Join Date: Dec 2007

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Posts: 8,658

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1k650

Does this also work from Del ?

Probably yes !!!!

Feb 1, 2014, 8:00 am

#380

stephem

Join Date: Nov 2004

Location: Manhattan Beach, California

Programs: BMI Diamond Club Gold forever

Posts: 6,367

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1k650

Does this also work from Del ?

Yes, DEL/BOM are both a couple hundred more, but seem to have similar rules.

Feb 1, 2014, 9:26 am

#381

SiberianTiger

Join Date: Aug 2011

Location: Idaho

Programs: US Airways, Silver United, Gold Hilton, Platinum Marriott, Gold SPG

Posts: 749

BOI-PVR rt ai $1040 in P

Other Mexican destinations are available too:

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Boise (BOI) to Puerto Vallarta (PVR) - Fri, Feb 21
United Airlines, Inc. Boise (BOI) to Denver (DEN) - Fri, Feb 21
United Airlines, Inc. 5563 Dep: 4:25PM Arr: 6:17PM 1h 52m Canadair Reg. Jet Economy (Q)
OPERATED BY SKYWEST DBA UNITED EXPRESS Layover in DEN 3h 46m

United Airlines, Inc. Denver (DEN) to Los Angeles (LAX) - Fri, Feb 21
United Airlines, Inc. 1121 Dep: 10:03PM Arr: 11:30PM 2h 27m Boeing 757 First (P)
Layover in LAX 0h 55m

United Airlines, Inc. Los Angeles (LAX) to Houston (IAH) - Sat, Feb 22
United Airlines, Inc. 1614 Dep: 12:25AM Arr: 5:32AM 3h 7m Boeing 757 First (P)
Layover in IAH 3h 18m

United Airlines, Inc. Houston (IAH) to Puerto Vallarta (PVR) - Sat, Feb 22
United Airlines, Inc. 842 Dep: 8:50AM Arr: 11:26AM 2h 36m Airbus A320 Business (P)

Puerto Vallarta (PVR) to Boise (BOI) - Thu, Feb 27
United Airlines, Inc. Puerto Vallarta (PVR) to Houston (IAH) - Thu, Feb 27
United Airlines, Inc. 302 Dep: 2:58PM Arr: 5:15PM 2h 17m Airbus A320 Business (P)
Layover in IAH 2h 35m

United Airlines, Inc. Houston (IAH) to Los Angeles (LAX) - Thu, Feb 27
United Airlines, Inc. 1695 Dep: 7:50PM Arr: 9:32PM 3h 42m Boeing 757 First (P)
Layover in LAX 8h 28m

United Airlines, Inc. Los Angeles (LAX) to Denver (DEN) - Fri, Feb 28
United Airlines, Inc. 338 Dep: 6:00AM Arr: 9:19AM 2h 19m Boeing 757 First (P)
Layover in DEN 2h 7m

United Airlines, Inc. Denver (DEN) to Boise (BOI) - Fri, Feb 28
United Airlines, Inc. 1671 Dep: 11:26AM Arr: 1:28PM 2h 2m Boeing 737 First (P)

Cost per passenger (including taxes & fees) $1,040.61
Total cost for 1 passenger $1,040.61

How to buy this ticket
Tickets cannot be purchased directly from ITA Software.
Provide this information to a travel agent to help them match the fares found.
Make sure to provide the exact booking and fare codes shown.
Fare 1: Carrier UA PNN4C9SN BOI to PVR (rules)
Passenger type ADT, round trip fare, booking code Q, P
Covers BOI-DEN (Economy), DEN-LAX (First), LAX-IAH (First), IAH-PVR (Business)
$449.00
Fare 2: Carrier UA PNN4C9SN PVR to BOI (rules)
Passenger type ADT, round trip fare, booking code P
Covers PVR-IAH (Business), IAH-LAX (First), LAX-DEN (First), DEN-BOI (First)
$449.00
US September 11th Security Fee (AY) $10.00
US Passenger Facility Charge (XF) $18.00
US International Departure Tax (US) $17.50
US International Arrival Tax (US) $17.50
Mexican Tourist Tax (UK) $23.54
Mexico Airport Departure Tax (XD) $38.57
US Customs Fee (YC) $5.50
US Immigration Fee (XY) $7.00
USDA APHIS Fee (XA) $5.00

Subtotal per passenger $1,040.61
Number of passengers x1

TOTAL AIRFARE & TAXES $1,040.61
This ticket is non-refundable.
Changes to this ticket will incur a penalty fee.
Fare construction (can be useful to travel agents)
BOI UA X/DEN UA X/LAX UA X/HOU UA PVR 449.00PNN4C9SN UA X/HOU UA X/LAX UA X/DEN UA BOI 449.00PNN4C9SN NUC 898.00 END ROE 1.00 XT 5.50YC 7.00XY 5.00XA 35.00US 10.00AY 23.54UK 38.57XD 18.00XF BOI4.50 DEN4.50 LAX4.50 DEN4.50

Feb 1, 2014, 11:25 am

#382

bwiflyer01

Join Date: Oct 2004

Posts: 270

Quote:

Originally Posted by SiberianTiger

Other Mexican destinations are available too:

Nice find.

This sounds similar to the YYC/YEG P fares to Mexico and Central America that have stuck around for awhile.

Last month, I booked YYC-ORD-SFO-DEN-PVR-IAH-LAX-SFO-DEN-YEG-YYC for $829 and YYC-YYZ-IAH-BZE-IAH-YYZ-YEG for $846.

Feb 1, 2014, 1:52 pm

#383

Goosh

Join Date: Jun 2011

Location: SFO and SNA/LAX

Programs: JL JMB Diamond 1.4 MM, UA 1P 1.2 MM

Posts: 238

LAX-JFK one way AA172 4/20/2014 First class $582. Books into P fare. 2 seats left. Bookable directly on AA.com. New 32B bird too.

Feb 1, 2014, 4:05 pm

#384

SJC AA

Join Date: Jun 2000

Location: JFK > LGA >> EWR

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Posts: 2,180

Quote:

Originally Posted by Goosh

LAX-JFK one way AA172 4/20/2014 First class $582. Books into P fare. 2 seats left. Bookable directly on AA.com. New 32B bird too.

Nice one. Good for other days and directions too on AA171 and AA172. Some days are even cheaper.

Feb 1, 2014, 5:25 pm

#385

Nicksterguy

Join Date: Jan 2004

Location: Rehoboth Beach, DE

Programs: AA ExPlat; Marriott Plat: Hilton Gold

Posts: 831

Quote:

Originally Posted by SJC AA

Nice one. Good for other days and directions too on AA171 and AA172. Some days are even cheaper.

Can you give dates? I am not seeing it? I think it is gone on 04/20.

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Feb 1, 2014, 5:30 pm

#386

Wolfboy

Join Date: Nov 2003

Location: New York NY

Programs: BA Gold, AA Plt,

Posts: 7

Quote:

Originally Posted by Goosh

LAX-JFK one way AA172 4/20/2014 First class $582. Books into P fare. 2 seats left. Bookable directly on AA.com. New 32B bird too.

Goosh....Great find! Just booked JFK-LAX r/t 04/17 -04/20. AA171/AA172, new A321. First Class. $1068.

Feb 1, 2014, 5:40 pm

#387

PV_Premier

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Posts: 20,633

Quote:

Originally Posted by Goosh

LAX-JFK one way AA172 4/20/2014 First class $582. Books into P fare. 2 seats left. Bookable directly on AA.com. New 32B bird too.

excellent.

$509 JFK-SMF

going to use this to experience 321T in F and rack up a few miles on the way home from a business trip in early April. thanks!!! ^