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Fare feels too good to be true? Don't call the airline!
Double-check that the fare is actually in Business or First as some online search engines or OTAs confuse booking classes on some airlines.
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The deeply discounted international fares discussed here are almost always specific to a certain point of origin, and only very rarely work in reverse (e.g. a SFO-LHR-SFO fare usually won't work LHR-SFO-LHR). Domestic fares more commonly work in reverse.
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Note: There is a known miscoding on ITA and elsewhere, where fares on EI (Aer Lingus) are showing as being in first class. This is not correct, as Aer Lingus does not offer first class. If you see this fare, please ignore it and do not post it here as it is completely unbookable in every sense of the term. The mods are summarily deleting these posts in order to unclutter the thread.

Note: There is a known miscoding on ITA and elsewhere, where Z fares on EY (Etihad) are showing as being in first class. This is not correct, as Z fares are discount business on EY. These fares will not receive chaffeur service. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/etihad-airways-etihad-guest/1622229-removal-chauffeur-service-some-business-class-passengers.html

List of known, active deals:

JNB-DXB-SFO in EK F, $4k-ish one-way
MLE-HKG-US (various) in C, $1400 +/- available only on CX's website.
CMB-MIA, other US cities, for about $4400 in F, round-trip/return

BA AARP $400 discount for J/F bookings is now valid again for booking until 31 Oct 2014 but departure to EOS seems to get the discount. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/british-airways-executive-club/1435816-ba-fare-discounts-aarp-4.html

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Jul 24, 2014, 1:24 am

#2116

TPJ

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Quote:

Originally Posted by stevejnr

Return price - £1,685 - Very good for Christmas Business Class - UK-OZ

Wow! Great deal - seems to be only available on their web site, though

It is D-class - earns only 125% in KLM/AF program not no miles in AZ program.

Jul 24, 2014, 3:18 am

#2117

jhmili

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From LYS to BKK : Special biz fares with EK this end of summer
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1,783 EUR ($2405) - Business Class

Departure from: Lyon (LYS)

Destination: Bangkok (BKK)

Stop: Dubai (DXB)

Airline : Emirates (EK)

Sample dates: Aug 15 – Sep 13

Total miles flown: 22 100 miles

Cost per mile flown : 10.8

Jul 24, 2014, 4:32 am

#2118

Wozza2404

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jhmili

Nice price, but if anyone is doing this then amke sure you pick one of the A380 DXB-BKK legs. The 777 is pretty poor in J by comparison, and you'll already have had 7 hours in it on the first leg.

Jul 24, 2014, 11:44 am

#2119

Catusa

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jhmili

Also similar pricing to SIN. Max travel time 30 days and 150 eur change fee. There is another fare which is 250 eur more which allows travel up to a year and 50 eur change fee. The higher fare also allows tix cancellation for 150 eur. And, the higher fare allows up to 3 stopovers in each direction vs 1 on the lower fare.

Jul 24, 2014, 3:54 pm

#2120

Arcanum

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JayEX35

Not sure what the rules are but some prices are crazy on Etihad's site.

I was playing around and from CDG-SGN can be had 1400 Euro tax in. If this can get free upgrade to first, I'd say it's a smoking deal if you are looking for a vacation ex-CDG.

Can anyone find this for 1400EUR? I'm only seeing ~2300EUR.

Jul 24, 2014, 4:02 pm

#2121

rcs85551

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Arcanum

Can anyone find this for 1400EUR? I'm only seeing ~2300EUR.

You need to fly between CDG and AUH on the HM-operated flights with the inferior product.

Jul 25, 2014, 12:02 am

#2122

usr22

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Vietnam Airlines Biz Class from most cities in China to Europe, about 1680 USD(36 million VND) round trip. (This price is for CAN-FRA; a little more expensive when departing from PEK and PVG; a little cheaper when flying CAN-DME)
-Transfer flights at Hanoi(HAN). Transfer time for CAN-FRA is about 6 hrs. Quite long but given that the price is so cheap, it is endurable.
-Tested: Departing from Guangzhou(CAN), Shanghai Pudong(PVG) and Beijing(PEK) ; Arriving in Paris(CDG), Frankfurt(FRA) and Moscow (DME).
-Available all year on most dates.
-5.67 CPM when CAN-FRA
(P.S. Some dates also have really cheap Economy class. For example, Mar 2nd 2015 CAN-DME, about 400 USD one way (8.37 million VND) - but no miles)

Update: do not seems to be available when flying from Europe to China. Tested FRA-CAN, not available.

Last edited by usr22; Jul 25, 2014 at 12:07 am Reason: grammar error

Jul 25, 2014, 7:19 am

#2123

HawaiiO

Join Date: Jan 2008

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Got email from OZ
Sea to Icn $2780 r/t biz

Jul 25, 2014, 8:27 am

#2124

TelFunku

Join Date: Jan 2011

Location: YYZ

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Quote:

Originally Posted by usr22

Nice! If combined with Turkish VKO-HKG-VKO for $1500 this would be a lot of J flying for ~$3K.

Jul 25, 2014, 11:19 am

#2125

audryte

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Just booked EY CAI-AUH (recliner seats) stopover AUH-PEK (flat beds) in J for the total of $1005. That's $100 below what it was pricing in Y on OTAs.

Jul 25, 2014, 11:27 am

#2126

bocastephen

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HawaiiO

Got email from OZ
Sea to Icn $2780 r/t biz

That's a little pricey for a recliner-lounge seat and a couple english language movies to pass 10+ hrs each way.

Jul 25, 2014, 3:43 pm

#2127

czechcestovatel

Join Date: Jun 2014

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Quote:

Originally Posted by audryte

Just booked EY CAI-AUH (recliner seats) stopover AUH-PEK (flat beds) in J for the total of $1005. That's $100 below what it was pricing in Y on OTAs.

OW or RT? Dates?

I found for this routing only 10300 EGP - 1500 dollars... RT.

Jul 25, 2014, 4:22 pm

#2128

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UA: LAX-RDU $773 round trip (P fare)

route via IAD for 9.3cpm with elite minimums and COS bonus

widely available September thru December

UA: LAX-EWR-PTY $800 round trip (P fare)

5.7cpm with COS bonus

c'mon DL match it!!!

Last edited by PV_Premier; Jul 25, 2014 at 4:38 pm

Jul 25, 2014, 4:40 pm

#2129

audryte

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Quote:

Originally Posted by czechcestovatel

OW or RT? Dates?

I found for this routing only 10300 EGP - 1500 dollars... RT.

OW with a 4-day stopover in AUH Oct 28-Nov 2.

Was just informed by a fellow expert-traveler that it's possible to do a double open jaw with return BOM to YYZ for $1972

Jul 25, 2014, 6:42 pm

#2130

crackjack

Join Date: Jul 2014

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Quote:

Originally Posted by audryte

Was just informed by a fellow expert-traveler that it's possible to do a double open jaw with return BOM to YYZ for $1972

There's a sale going on from India:
http://www.etihad.com/en-in/deals/pr...motion_id=6049

Saw this yesterday, can get MAA-NYC for ~$2,000. ^

Must book by tomorrow, however (27 July midnight - end, I think - though that'd be IST, +5.5 GMT). Great if you have fixed dates through this period, though any changes would probably bump the price to the existing fare at the time...

Last edited by crackjack; Jul 25, 2014 at 7:14 pm

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