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Jul 21, 2013, 10:21 am

#1501

Argonaut1000

Join Date: May 2001

Location: YVR

Programs: AC SEMM

Posts: 2,072

AC - YVR-HKG $3045 ai

AC
YVR-HKG
ZXCGT $3045 All included
Outbound dates:
12/17/13-01/11/14
01/23/14-02/07/14
Max Stay 3 months

Same pricing from YYC, YEG
Slightly higher from YYJ, YWG
Cities other than YVR, One Stopover permitted each direction at $100 each

Jul 21, 2013, 10:31 am

#1502

AndrewE

Join Date: Sep 2009

Location: YOW/YUL/YYZ

Posts: 270

Quote:

Originally Posted by tracon

YVR-Hawaii all islands. UA F.
$1100-$1200.
Routings through DEN available.
One ways available for slightly more than 50%.

$1,700 out of YYZ (route through EWR or IAD, iirc, UA has flat seats on those routes)

Toronto (YYZ) to Honolulu (HNL) - Thu, Aug 29
United Airlines, Inc. Toronto (YYZ) to Newark (EWR) - Thu, Aug 29
United Airlines, Inc. 8562 Dep: 8:30AM Arr: 9:54AM 1h 24m Embraer RJ-175 First (P)
OPERATED BY AIR CANADA Layover in EWR 3h 35m

United Airlines, Inc. Newark (EWR) to Honolulu (HNL) - Thu, Aug 29
United Airlines, Inc. 15 Dep: 1:29PM Arr: 6:14PM 10h 45m Boeing 767 First (P)

Honolulu (HNL) to Toronto (YYZ) - Thu, Sep 5
United Airlines, Inc. Honolulu (HNL) to San Francisco (SFO) - Thu, Sep 5
United Airlines, Inc. 396 Dep: 9:11PM Arr: 5:07AM 4h 56m Boeing 777 First (P)
Layover in SFO Fri, Sep 6 2h 53m

United Airlines, Inc. San Francisco (SFO) to Toronto (YYZ) - Fri, Sep 6
United Airlines, Inc. 8514 Dep: 8:00AM Arr: 3:57PM 4h 57m Airbus A320 First (P)
OPERATED BY AIR CANADA
Cost per passenger (including taxes & fees) $1,700.80
Total cost for 1 passenger $1,700.80

Jul 21, 2013, 10:40 am

#1503

mileageking

Join Date: Jan 2008

Posts: 3,946

Quote:

Originally Posted by Argonaut1000

Great fare! YYZ is much higher

Jul 21, 2013, 10:45 am

#1504

AndrewE

Join Date: Sep 2009

Location: YOW/YUL/YYZ

Posts: 270

YYZ-PEK-YYZ ~$2,500

last segment in Y (also good out of YUL)

Toronto (YYZ) to Beijing (PEK) - Sun, Dec 22
American Airlines Inc. Toronto (YYZ) to Chicago (ORD) - Sun, Dec 22
American Airlines Inc. 3081 Dep: 11:45AM Arr: 12:25PM 1h 40m Canadair RJ 700 Business (I)
OPERATED BY AMERICAN EAGLE AIRLINES Layover in ORD 2h 0m

Hainan Airlines Company Limited Chicago (ORD) to Beijing (PEK) - Sun, Dec 22
Hainan Airlines Company Limited 498 Dep: 2:25PM Arr: 7:15PM 14h 50m Airbus A340 Business (I)
Mon, Dec 23

Beijing (PEK) to Toronto (YYZ) - Tue, Dec 31
Hainan Airlines Company Limited Beijing (PEK) to Chicago (ORD) - Tue, Dec 31
Hainan Airlines Company Limited 497 Dep: 12:35PM Arr: 12:25PM 13h 50m Airbus A340 Business (I)
Layover in ORD 3h 40m

American Airlines Inc. Chicago (ORD) to Toronto (YYZ) - Tue, Dec 31
American Airlines Inc. 3630 Dep: 4:05PM Arr: 6:45PM 1h 40m Embraer ERJ-145 Economy (Y)
OPERATED BY AMERICAN EAGLE AIRLINES
Cost per passenger (including taxes & fees) $2,547.80
Total cost for 1 passenger $2,547.80

Jul 21, 2013, 10:49 am

#1505

AndrewE

Join Date: Sep 2009

Location: YOW/YUL/YYZ

Posts: 270

Quote:

Originally Posted by Argonaut1000

if only CX would match out of YYZ ...

can also route via SFO

Vancouver (YVR) to Hong Kong (HKG) - Thu, Dec 19
United Airlines, Inc. Vancouver (YVR) to San Francisco (SFO) - Thu, Dec 19
United Airlines, Inc. 361 Dep: 6:00AM Arr: 8:17AM 2h 17m Airbus A319 First (P)
Layover in SFO 5h 8m

United Airlines, Inc. San Francisco (SFO) to Hong Kong (HKG) - Thu, Dec 19
United Airlines, Inc. 869 Dep: 1:25PM Arr: 8:05PM 14h 40m Boeing 747 Business (P)
Fri, Dec 20

Hong Kong (HKG) to Vancouver (YVR) - Mon, Dec 30
United Airlines, Inc. Hong Kong (HKG) to San Francisco (SFO) - Mon, Dec 30
United Airlines, Inc. 862 Dep: 12:30PM Arr: 8:25AM 11h 55m Boeing 747 Business (P)
Layover in SFO 2h 21m

United Airlines, Inc. San Francisco (SFO) to Vancouver (YVR) - Mon, Dec 30
United Airlines, Inc. 567 Dep: 10:46AM Arr: 1:00PM 2h 14m Airbus A319 First (P)

Cost per passenger (including taxes & fees) $2,918.80
Total cost for 1 passenger $2,918.80

also good to BKK (other SE Asia destinations possible?)

Vancouver (YVR) to Bangkok (BKK) - Mon, Dec 30
Air Canada Vancouver (YVR) to Seoul (ICN) - Mon, Dec 30
Air Canada 63 Dep: 11:40AM Arr: 4:15PM 11h 35m Boeing 767 Business (Z)
Layover in ICN Tue, Dec 31 2h 5m

Air Canada Seoul (ICN) to Bangkok (BKK) - Tue, Dec 31
Air Canada 6996 Dep: 6:20PM Arr: 10:10PM 5h 50m Airbus A330 Business (Z)
OPERATED BY ASIANA AIRLINES INC.

Bangkok (BKK) to Vancouver (YVR) - Wed, Jan 8
Air Canada Bangkok (BKK) to Tokyo (NRT) - Wed, Jan 8
Air Canada 6230 Dep: 8:25AM Arr: 4:20PM 5h 55m Boeing 767 Business (Z)
OPERATED BY ALL NIPPON AIRWAYS CO. LTD. Layover in NRT 2h 40m

Air Canada Tokyo (NRT) to Vancouver (YVR) - Wed, Jan 8
Air Canada 4 Dep: 7:00PM Arr: 10:55AM 8h 55m Boeing 767 Business (Z)

Cost per passenger (including taxes & fees) $3,023.80
Total cost for 1 passenger $3,023.80

Last edited by AndrewE; Jul 21, 2013 at 11:12 am

Jul 21, 2013, 11:07 am

#1506

FirstClassSE

Join Date: Jul 2012

Location: Sweden

Posts: 319

Fail: TK screwed the search up.

Jul 21, 2013, 11:28 am

#1507

AndrewE

Join Date: Sep 2009

Location: YOW/YUL/YYZ

Posts: 270

Quote:

Originally Posted by mileageking

Was anyone else able to price at $1350? I tried many things but no luck.

JFK-LHR leg on AA's new 77W ...

New York (JFK) to London (LHR) - Sun, Nov 24
American Airlines Inc. American Airlines Inc. 100 Dep: 6:10PM Arr: 6:20AM 7h 10m Boeing 777 Business (I)
Mon, Nov 25

Dublin (DUB) to New York (JFK) - Fri, Nov 29
American Airlines Inc. American Airlines Inc. 291 Dep: 8:55AM Arr: 11:50AM 7h 55m Boeing 757 Business (I)

Cost per passenger (including taxes & fees) $1,416.20
Total cost for 1 passenger $1,416.20

Jul 21, 2013, 1:11 pm

#1508

jmr50

Join Date: Aug 2005

Location: NYC

Programs: AA EXP, B6 Mosaic, UA Platinum, others

Posts: 1,270

Aa: Lga-(ord/dfw)-sfo - $1,119/rt

13cpm via DFW - widely available this fall

Jul 21, 2013, 3:07 pm

#1509

why fly

Suspended

Join Date: Nov 2002

Location: Toronto YYZ UA-1K 1MM,QFgold

Programs: Royal Ambassador/ SPG Platinum 75/Marriott gold

Posts: 14,283

Quote:

Originally Posted by Argonaut1000

United is same price and with creative routing you get way more miles and/or a 747. {Be aware AC may be putting crap high density 777 on YVR-HKG routes.]
17,431 and im sure lots of you can do much better. thats without any bonus miles for cos or status.

Jul 21, 2013, 4:52 pm

#1510

erasmus99

Join Date: Dec 2007

Programs: Aeroplan, BMI, Hyatt, SPG, PC

Posts: 606

YVR-HKG in Sept. for $2,750 a.i. on JAL

Jul 21, 2013, 5:07 pm

#1511

mileageking

Join Date: Jan 2008

Posts: 3,946

YVR-DPS: $3061 a.i. AC-CX/OZ/KE

Jul 21, 2013, 6:20 pm

#1512

tracon

Join Date: Dec 2002

Posts: 8,002

I'm getting prices closer to $3500 for February dates.
SIN, CGK, MNL also available.

MU $4458CDN YVR-SYD Business Class

Jul 21, 2013, 9:16 pm

#1513

azpyre

Join Date: Aug 2004

Location: SIN

Programs: KL Life Platinum, QF Platinum, OZ Diamond, Marriott Ambassador

Posts: 213

JAL YVR-HKG-YVR $2371 a.i.

Viewable in ITA: JAL
YVR-HKG-YVR $2371 a.i.
Sample dates: Sep 5, return Oct 3
waiting to see if any other airlines would match

YVR to SIN/BKK/MNL return also available for a few hundread dollar more
(SIN is on the B787)

Last edited by azpyre; Jul 21, 2013 at 9:21 pm Reason: added SIN B787

Jul 21, 2013, 10:39 pm

#1514

skunker

Join Date: May 2006

Location: SAN

Programs: Lots of faux metal

Posts: 6,422

Quote:

Originally Posted by azpyre

The YVR-NRT leg is on a 767 which has the older J seats.

Jul 21, 2013, 10:58 pm

#1515

SFO_Runner

Join Date: Dec 2003

Location: Shared Troll

Programs: The Marina. Comic Relief. UA 1K and 1MM. MacBook Pro.

Posts: 1,913

Quote:

Originally Posted by azpyre

Quote:

PERMITTED 13APR 13 THROUGH 30JUN 13 OR 01SEP 13 THROUGH
30NOV 13 ON THE OUTBOUND TRANSPACIFIC SECTOR.

TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON/BEFORE 31JUL 13.

Quote:

MIDWEEK BUSINESS EXCURSION FARES X
Between CANADA and AREA 3 FOR ROUND TRIP FARES

PERMITTED MON THROUGH THU ON EACH TRANSPACIFIC SECTOR.

TRAVEL FROM INBOUND TRANSPACIFIC SECTOR MUST COMMENCE NO
EARLIER THAN 7 DAYS AFTER DEPARTURE OF THE OUTBOUND
TRANSPACIFIC SECTOR.

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