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Old Mar 11, 12, 6:39 pm   #16
 
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AF does not have the lie flat beds that Air Canada offers.. Frankly AC if you have status is far superior! Hands down. I even know one AF Plat who is switching back to AC SE.
You're comparing apples and oranges: AF Y+ vs AC J.

Anyway, this is not a discussion thread, but a place to post Premium Economy deals. So I won't delve any further.
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AF does not have the lie flat beds that Air Canada offers.. Frankly AC if you have status is far superior! Hands down. I even know one AF Plat who is switching back to AC SE.
LOL nobody but someone who is desperate would every switch to AC unless they had no options.
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Old Mar 21, 12, 7:27 pm   #18
 
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SIN-SYD Business Class US$645 RT ai

Singapore Airlines new low cost offshoot clone Scoot Airlines is currently offering Singapore - Sydney for US$642 round trip all in (booked as $811 Sg Dollars)

ScootBiz includes:
• An exclusive 32-seat upfront cabin
• Preferred seat selection
• A big, comfy, leather seat, offering at least 38" (96cm) of legroom,
22" (56cm) of width, 8" (20cm) of recline, plus a footrest
• Up to two complimentary meals with beverages, depending
on the flight
• 20kg of checked luggage allowance
• Up to 15kg/two bags of carry-on baggage
• Priority boarding
• In-flight entertainment
• In-seat power
• A comfort kit if you’re travelling overnight
• Fast-track check-in at Scoot's dedicated ScootBiz counter



Bookable here before 27th March

http://www.flyscoot.com/index.php/en/
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Old Mar 21, 12, 8:58 pm   #19
 
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Singapore Airlines new low cost offshoot clone Scoot Airlines is currently offering Singapore - Sydney for US$642 round trip all in (booked as $811 Sg Dollars)

ScootBiz includes:
• An exclusive 32-seat upfront cabin
• Preferred seat selection
• A big, comfy, leather seat, offering at least 38" (96cm) of legroom,
22" (56cm) of width, 8" (20cm) of recline, plus a footrest
• Up to two complimentary meals with beverages, depending
on the flight
• 20kg of checked luggage allowance
• Up to 15kg/two bags of carry-on baggage
• Priority boarding
• In-flight entertainment
• In-seat power
• A comfort kit if you’re travelling overnight
• Fast-track check-in at Scoot's dedicated ScootBiz counter



Bookable here before 27th March

http://www.flyscoot.com/index.php/en/
Warning, its nothing like BUSINESS

http://www.ausbt.com.au/new-scoot-ai...ts-on-sale-now

See the bottom of the page for a picture...
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Old Mar 21, 12, 9:11 pm   #20
 
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Warning, its nothing like BUSINESS

http://www.ausbt.com.au/new-scoot-ai...ts-on-sale-now

See the bottom of the page for a picture...
I agree the seat specs are not really business but the pic I saw in that link you gave looked like their economy seat. Unless the link changed or I missed it. Also, looks like no miles on Scoot.
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Old Mar 21, 12, 9:14 pm   #21
 
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I agree the seat specs are not really business but the pic I saw in that link you gave looked like their economy seat. Unless the link changed or I missed it. Also, looks like no miles on Scoot.
Nope, that's the 'Biz' seat in 2-4-2 config. Economy is a sardine can with 3-4-3.
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Old Mar 21, 12, 10:04 pm   #22
 
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Nope, that's the 'Biz' seat in 2-4-2 config.

Wow, with 22" seat width and 38" pitch I was expecting something in the regional business class or at least a longhaul Premium Economy type product but have to agree that looks particularly bad... not even your own armrests... really doesnt look like a 22" width.

The 2AM departure from Singapore means SIN-SYD is an overnight flight and that really doesnt look like a seat to spend the night in... even if the sale price is less than the regular economy fare and at least gets you 7" more legroom
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Old Mar 21, 12, 10:48 pm   #23
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These seats are similar to what BC used to be like 30 years. Never flew SQ in that era but CX and NW were 2-4-2 initially with no legs rests on 747s. NW seats were superspaced economy while CX was like a small armchair.
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Old Mar 22, 12, 7:11 am   #24
 
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Warning, its nothing like BUSINESS

http://www.ausbt.com.au/new-scoot-ai...ts-on-sale-now

See the bottom of the page for a picture...

This thread is for "Good Deal Premium Fares 2012", not bad deal fake-premium fares.

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Also, looks like no miles on Scoot.
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Old Mar 22, 12, 8:39 am   #25
 
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Warning, its nothing like BUSINESS

http://www.ausbt.com.au/new-scoot-ai...ts-on-sale-now

See the bottom of the page for a picture...
Come on folks, we are all FT'ers. The picture at the bottom is NOT the business class seat. Why? Well because the article says so and there is no foot rest, plus these seats are not 22inches wide. To put it into perspective, the Emirates A380 First Class seat is only 21.5 wide. My guess is that the seat will be similar to Jet Star's Star Class.

In my opinion, I'm glad that the OP posted this fare because it is a cheap premium-lite option.
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Old Mar 22, 12, 9:14 am   #26
 
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Come on folks, we are all FT'ers. The picture at the bottom is NOT the business class seat. Why? Well because the article says so and there is no foot rest, plus these seats are not 22inches wide. To put it into perspective, the Emirates A380 First Class seat is only 21.5 wide. My guess is that the seat will be similar to Jet Star's Star Class.

In my opinion, I'm glad that the OP posted this fare because it is a cheap premium-lite option.
Not sure how you're reading the article. It introduces ScootBiz, then explains the photo with this:
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These are premium economy seats designed by German firm Zim and shown below, although you can expect a much better colour scheme for the seats and cabin than shown in Zim's generic catalogue shot.
Then continues explaining the benefits of ScootBiz below the picture. Seems likely that they are talking about the same thing throughout.
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Old Mar 22, 12, 9:21 am   #27
 
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Not sure how you're reading the article. It introduces ScootBiz, then explains the photo with this:

Then continues explaining the benefits of ScootBiz below the picture. Seems likely that they are talking about the same thing throughout.
It definitely sounds like something much closer to premium economy than the standard for today's intercontinental business class. The two flights they are launching will be red-eye overnight flights from SIN to Australia. This seat has 8 inches of recline in a 38-inch pitch. That is nothing like a lie-flat or angled-lie-flat seat. It is more akin to a domestic F seat you'd find on 738 - except the seats don't even seem to have a wide armrest with room for drinks between the seats.

So, it's better than Scoot's economy which is 10-abreast in a 777, but not up to intercontinental C-class standards.
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Old Mar 22, 12, 9:25 am   #28
 
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Not sure how you're reading the article. It introduces ScootBiz, then explains the photo with this:

Then continues explaining the benefits of ScootBiz below the picture. Seems likely that they are talking about the same thing throughout.
It would not be the the first time somebody put the wrong picture in an article. The specs list a foot rest and I didnt not see a foot rest.
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Old Mar 22, 12, 8:59 pm   #29
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Singapore Airlines new low cost offshoot clone Scoot Airlines is currently offering Singapore - Sydney for US$642 round trip all in (booked as $811 Sg Dollars)

ScootBiz includes:
• An exclusive 32-seat upfront cabin
• Preferred seat selection
• A big, comfy, leather seat, offering at least 38" (96cm) of legroom,
22" (56cm) of width, 8" (20cm) of recline, plus a footrest
• Up to two complimentary meals with beverages, depending
on the flight
• 20kg of checked luggage allowance
• Up to 15kg/two bags of carry-on baggage
• Priority boarding
• In-flight entertainment
• In-seat power
• A comfort kit if you’re travelling overnight
• Fast-track check-in at Scoot's dedicated ScootBiz counter



Bookable here before 27th March

http://www.flyscoot.com/index.php/en/
I have moved this post and replies from Good Deal Premium Fares to the Good Deal Premium Economy Fares thread, based on it being a budget airline 'Business' seat, the 2-4-2 and limited/basic 'PE' seat design and the lack of info on this fare earning on any alliances.

FYI the seat map for ScootBiz.


Not looking too premium to me!


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