bangkokiscool

Air Canada has some very attractive fares ex-NYC (JFK, LGA) and ORD to ICN, about $3300 roundtrip all in. Fare basis is BXUKT or BWUKT, and routes via YVR. This is almost a thousand dollars less than starting the flight from YVR! YVR-ICN is on AC's refurbished lie-flat herringbone product, which I have flown on several times. It's as nice as any herringbone product out there, perhaps not as wide or spacious as TK/TG/9W, but a solid full lie-flat product nonetheless.

Note the fare rules are pretty restrictive -- non refundable, $250 change fee, and must ticket by next weekend (Oct. 31).

bangkokiscool

Here's one for fans of Ultra Long Haul (ULH) travel on the A340-500. Ever since SQ converted all their A345's to business class only (quite expensive and awards are pretty expensive too ), TG's BKK-LAX service remains one of the last remaining ULH routes accessible to most people. Depending on season and winds and direction, this bird might stay in air for as long as 17 hours -- plenty of time to experience TG's "smooth as silk" inflight experience and (unfortunately) angled lie-flat seat. Anyway, about $3350 from CGK and about the same price from KUL. Book directly on thaiairways.com only, or through a local TA.

bangkokiscool

Free stopover in DXB, and stopover in BKK for 50 Euro. Full fare rules below:

Fare rules & restrictions
Emirates EK ILE1YIT1 MIL to HKG
General notes

BASIC SEASON BUSINESS EXCURSION FARES I
Between ITALY and AREA 3 FOR ROUND TRIP FARES

Seasonal restrictions

PERMITTED 01APR THROUGH 22JUL OR 16AUG THROUGH 15DEC OR
31DEC THROUGH 31MAR ON THE FIRST INTERNATIONAL SECTOR.

Flight restrictions

THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
EK FLIGHTS 6220 THROUGH 6221
AZ FLIGHTS 2400 THROUGH 3999
AZ FLIGHTS 7000 THROUGH 7999.
AND
IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL WITHIN ITALY
THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY AP FLIGHT
ANY AZ FLIGHT.
AND
IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN ITALY AND
DXB
THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY EK FLIGHT OPERATED BY EK.
AND
IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN DXB AND AREA
3
THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY EK FLIGHT OPERATED BY EK.
AND
IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL WITHIN TICKETED
POINTS AREA 3
THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY EK FLIGHT
ANY DJ FLIGHT OPERATED BY DJ
ANY PG FLIGHT OPERATED BY PG
ANY RA FLIGHT OPERATED BY RA
ANY IC FLIGHT OPERATED BY IC
ANY GA FLIGHT OPERATED BY GA
ANY TG FLIGHT OPERATED BY TG
ANY MH FLIGHT OPERATED BY MH
ANY MI FLIGHT OPERATED BY MI
ANY PX FLIGHT OPERATED BY PX
ANY CX FLIGHT OPERATED BY CX
ANY KA FLIGHT OPERATED BY KA
ANY BR FLIGHT OPERATED BY BR
ANY VN FLIGHT OPERATED BY VN
ANY IT FLIGHT OPERATED BY IT
ANY TN FLIGHT OPERATED BY TN
ANY IR FLIGHT OPERATED BY IR
ANY KE FLIGHT OPERATED BY KE
ANY SB FLIGHT OPERATED BY SB
ANY PR FLIGHT OPERATED BY PR.

Advanced reservation/ticketing restrictions

RESERVATIONS ARE REQUIRED FOR ALL SECTORS.
NOTE -
EK RESERVES THE RIGHT TO CANCEL ANY PNR WHERE
ITINERARY DO NOT COMPLY WITH THE RESERVATION
BOOKING CODE / RBD/
-----
IF A TICKET IS USED OUT OF SEQUENCE EK RESERVES
THE RIGHT TO CANCEL ANY PNR OR INVALIDATE THE
REMAINING FLIGHT COUPONS.
------
IF A PASSENGER FAILS TO TRAVEL ON A SECTOR BOOKED
EK RESERVES THE RIGHT TO CANCEL THE REMAINING EK
SECTOR .
TAX /SERVICE CHARGES/GOVT .LEVIES TO BE PAID AS
APPLICABLE AT THE TIME OF TKT ISSUANCE.
TICKETING DEADLINE CONTROL APPLIES-PLEASE
TICKET DEADLINE CONTROL
EK HAS IMPLEMENTED AN AUTOMATIC TICKET DEADLINE
CONTROL.FURTHER INFORMATION IS AVAILABLE IN THE
VARIOUS GDS USING THE APPLICABLE ENTRY FORMAT
PLEASE NOTE THE // IS TO BE REPLACED BY
THE /CHANGE/ SIGN AND THE -- TO BE REPLACED
BY THE /ASTERISK/ SIGN
GALILEO L//GIGC -- EKINFO/TTL00 OR 01 OR 02
GALILEO L//GIGC -- EKINFO/TTL00 OR 01 OR 02
AMADEUS GGAIREKRESERVATION THEN REFER TO TTL
SABRE //QEK/Y/EKINFO/TTL00 OR 01 OR 02
ABACUS //QEK/Y/EKINFO/TTL00 OR 01 OR 02
WORLDSPAN //EK//G/TTL

Maximum stay requirements

TRAVEL FROM LAST INTERNATIONAL STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO
LATER THAN 12 MONTHS AFTER DEPARTURE FROM FARE ORIGIN.

Stopover restrictions

2 STOPOVERS PERMITTED
LIMITED TO 1 FREE AND 1 AT EUR 50.00.
NONE IN EUROPE
1 FREE IN DXB
1 AT EUR 50.00.
CHILD/INFANT DISCOUNTS APPLY.

Transfer restrictions

UNLIMITED TRANSFERS PERMITTED ON THE PRICING UNIT
FARE BREAK AND EMBEDDED SURFACE SECTORS NOT PERMITTED ON
THE FARE COMPONENT.

Combinability

ADD-ONS PERMITTED.
OPEN JAWS
FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS WITH EK
FARES
-TO FORM SINGLE OR DOUBLE OPEN JAWS.
A MAXIMUM OF TWO INTERNATIONAL FARE COMPONENTS
PERMITTED.
PROVIDED -
COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FIRST CLASS EXCURSION/
BUSINESS EXCURSION/ECONOMY RESTRICTED/BUSINESS
RESTRICTED/FIRST CLASS RESTRICTED/SPECIAL EXCURSION-
TYPE FARES IN RULE ITT2/IT02 IN TARIFF
IPREUAS - BETWEEN EUROPE-AREA 3.
ROUND TRIPS/CIRCLE TRIPS
FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS WITH EK
FARES
-TO FORM ROUND TRIPS
-TO FORM CIRCLE TRIPS
A MAXIMUM OF TWO INTERNATIONAL FARE COMPONENTS
PERMITTED.
PROVIDED -
COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FIRST CLASS EXCURSION/
BUSINESS EXCURSION/ECONOMY RESTRICTED/BUSINESS
RESTRICTED/FIRST CLASS RESTRICTED/SPECIAL EXCURSION-
TYPE FARES IN RULE ITT2/IT02 IN TARIFF
IPREUAS - BETWEEN EUROPE-AREA 3.
END-ON-END
END-ON-END COMBINATIONS NOT PERMITTED. VALIDATE ALL FARE
COMPONENTS.
PROVIDED -
COMBINATIONS ARE FOR CARRIER EK
OTHERWISE
END-ON-END COMBINATIONS PERMITTED. VALIDATE ALL FARE
COMPONENTS. TRAVEL MUST BE VIA THE POINT OF COMBINATION.

Penalties

CANCELLATIONS
BEFORE DEPARTURE
PER TICKET CHARGE EUR 150.00 FOR CANCEL/REFUND.
WAIVED FOR DEATH OF PASSENGER OR FAMILY MEMBER.
NOTE -
PENALTY APPLIES FOR ADULT/CHILD AND INFANT UNDER
TWO OCCUPYING A SEAT.
--------
REFUND PENALTY IS COMMISSIONABLE.
---
A COPY OF A VALID DEATH CERTIFICATE ISSUED BY A
COMPETENT MEDICAL AUTHORITY IS REQUIRED. FAMILY
MEMBERS AS DEFINED IN EK CONDITIONS OF CARRIAGE
OR PASSENGER AIRLINE TARIFF RULE BOOK.
---------
NO WAIVER APPLICABLE FOR ILLNESS OF PASSENGER OR
FAMILY MEMBER.
----------
FAILURE TO OCCUPY A RESERVED SEAT ON ANY SEGMENT
OF THE ITINERARY WILL RESULT IN ALL SUBSEQUENT
SEGMENTS OF THE ITINERARY BEING CANCELLED. IN
SUCH CASES REFUND WILL INCUR A CHARGE OF EUR300.
AFTER DEPARTURE
CANCELLATIONS PERMITTED FOR REFUND.
NOTE -
FOR PARTIALLY UTILISED TICKETS REFUND WILL BE
CALCULATED AS
1- IF USED UPTO THE POINT OF TURN AROUND DEDUCT
70PCT OF THE FARE PAID.
2- IF USED BEYOND THE POINT OF TURN AROUND THEN
THERE IS NO REFUND VALUE.
3-IN CASE OF NO-SHOW APPLY A PENALTY OF
EUR 150 ALSO FOR ALL FARES.
PASSENGERS WHO NO-SHOW FOR A FLIGHT
WILL BE CONSIDERED AS CANCELLING AFTER
DEPARTURE.
------------
FOR PARTLY UTILISED OW FARE TICKETS DEDUCT
APPLICABLE OW FARE IN THE SAME RBD OR
THE NEXT HIGHER RBD IF FARE FOR THE SAME RBD IS
NOT PUBLISHED PLUS A PENALTY OF EUR 75. IN CASE
OF NO-SHOW THE PENALTY WILL BE EUR 150.
CHANGES
ANY TIME
PER TICKET CHARGE EUR 100.00 FOR REISSUE/REVALIDATION.
NOTE -
PENALTY APPLIES FOR ADULT/CHILD AND INFANT UNDER
TWO OCCUPYING A SEAT.
REFUND PENALTY IS COMMISSIONABLE.
-----
VOLUNTARY REVALIDATION BEFORE DEPARTURE OF THE
FIRST TICKETED FLIGHT SEGMENT WILL BE SUBJECT TO
ANY FARE DIFFERENCE APPLICABLE TO THE NEW DATE OF
TRAVEL
------
SAME DATE/SAME FLIGHT SKYWARDS UPGRADES SHOULD NOT
BE CHARGED FOR CHANGES
--------
FAILURE TO OCCUPY A RESERVED SEAT ON ANY SEGMENT
OF THE ITINERARY WILL RESULT IN ALL SUBSEQUENT
SEGMENTS OF THE ITINERARY BEING CANCELLED. IN
SUCH CASES REFUND WILL INCUR A CHARGE OF EUR200.

Penalties

NOTE -
CHANGES -
-THE CHANGE FEE APPLIES PER TRANSACTION IF ANY.
-THE CHANGE FEE APPLIES PER FARE COMPONENT IF ANY.
WHEN MORE THAN ONE FARE COMPONENT IS CHANGED
THE HIGHEST PENALTY OF ANY OF THE CHANGED FARE
COMPONENTS WILL APPLY.
--------------------------------------------------
CANCELLATION BEFORE DEPARTURE -
1.WHEN THIS FARE IS COMBINED WITH A NON-REFUNDABLE
FARE
- DEDUCT THE RETURN AMOUNT OF THE NON-REFUNDABLE
FARE AND
- THE REFUND PENALTY OF THE REFUNDABLE FARE.
2.WHEN THIS FARE IS COMBINED WITH A REFUNDABLE
FARE.
- APPLY THE HIGHER OF THE TWO PENALTIES.
--------------------------------------------------
CANCELLATION AFTER DEPARTURE -
1.WHEN THIS FARE IS COMBINED WITH A NON-REFUNDABLE
FARE AND IF
A. THE NON-REFUNDABLE FARE IS USED ON THE
OUTBOUND FARE COMPONENT
- DEDUCT THE ONE-WAY FARE IN THE SAME OR
HIGHER RBD FOR THE ORIGIN DESTINATION PLUS
REFUND PENALTY OF THE REFUNDABLE FARE.
B. THE NON-REFUNDABLE FARE IS A PART OF THE
INBOUND FARE COMPONENT
- NO REFUND APPLIES.
------
2.WHEN THIS FARE IS COMBINED WITH A REFUNDABLE
FARE
- DEDUCT THE ONE-WAY FARE IN THE SAME OR HIGHER
RBD FOR THE FLOWN PORTION.
- IF TRAVEL ON THE INBOUND FARE COMPONENT HAS
COMMENCED NO REFUND APPLIES.
--------------------------------------------------
UPGRADES -
-AT ANY TIME WITHIN TICKET VALIDITY THE FARE CAN
BE RE-ISSUED TO ANY HIGHER FARE IN THE SAME CABIN
RECALCULATED FROM THE POINT OF ORIGIN AT A CHARGE
AS APPLICABLE PER CHANGE PROVIDED THE CONDITIONS
OF THE HIGHER FARE HAVE BEEN MET AND THE
APPLICABLE DIFFERENCE IN FARE IS COLLECTED.
CHARGE APPLIES PER PASSENGER. PENALTY DOES NOT
APPLY TO INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT. IF THE RE-ISSUED
TICKET IS SUBSEQUENTLY CANCELLED THE ORIGINAL
PENALTY WILL APPLY.
-AT ANYTIME WITHIN THE TICKET VALIDITY FARES CAN
BE UPGRADED TO ANY FARE IN A HIGHER CABIN
RECALCULATED FROM POINT OF ORIGIN PROVIDED THE
CONDITIONS OF THE HIGHER CABIN FARE HAVE BEEN
MET. REISSUE FEE WILL BE WAIVED IN THIS CASE. IF
THE UPGRADED TICKET IS SUBSEQUENTLY CANCELLED THE
ORIGINAL PENALTY WILL APPLY.

HIP exceptions

THE HIGHER INTERMEDIATE POINT RULE DOES NOT APPLY FOR
CONNECTIONS.
AND - THE HIGHER INTERMEDIATE POINT RULE DOES NOT APPLY
FOR STOPOVERS.
NOTE -
SURCHARGE AND EXCESS MILEAGE CAN BE IGNORED.
HIGHER INTERMEDIATE POINT RULE DOES NOT APPLY FOR
STOPOVERS/CONNECTIONS.
--------------------------------------------------
THESE FARES SHOULD NOT BE COMPARED/CHECKED WITH
THE FOLLOWING-
- HIGH IMMEDIATE FARE -HIF-
- CIRCLE TRIP MINIMUM CHECK -CTM-

SFOTurtle

This fare has been around for a while. I booked this fare to Rome a month ago for Mrs. SFOTurtle and I. Fare priced out a couple hundred more to Rome, but still not bad for C. Have some paper SWUs from a friend but am guessing that the odds of upgrading to F on the A340-600 aren't great with only 8 seats. Those odds will go down if a number of us are vying for upgrades on the same flights!! I'm figuring that with our originating flight from FCO to MUC on the return, there will be others ahead of us on the waitlist by the time we get to MUC for MUC-SFO, but still worth a shot. Ideally we'd use our SWUs for the outbound to have the true lie flat seats in F to sleep, as I don't mind the LH C seats for day time travel.

schley

People everyone knows that this has been around a while but nobody has posted it?????????????????

Come on, you see it post it. This is a great fare in biz share the wealth. I would have liked to have known about it previous to this poster, as opposed to everyone sounding off, "yeah this is nothing new".

Klm is Dead - Long Live KLM

There have been multiple posts. Get here more often and you will see them.

mcgahat

I am pretty sure there have been a lot of posts about Thanksgiving biz fares. Has anyone posted the exact SFO-MUC fare...probably not but there is plenty of posts on the Thanksgiving fares.

mtensioners

price has risen. I booked this 3 weeks ago at least for 1400ai LH Z actually booked 2 flights one to LIS and one to LHR both thru MUC

T-Flyer

Luckily, I was able to find the Glossary. The alphabet soup is intoxicating - and not in a good way.

Derrico

This works for PDX, SEA and many other cities. You can fly into all of the primary and secondary LH gateways: FRA, TXL, HAM, MUC It includes UA/LH/AC/CO. If you book through the individual carriers you get a lot of additional options for flights with there metal.

abcx

There was a $1400 rt fare in Z and you didn't post it? Or did I miss it?

SFOTurtle

SFO-MUC-SFO in Z on the LH nonstop for US$1400ai in Z? That is a good $700 cheaper than what everyoe else has been talking about. The other $2100 z fares from SFO to Europe had been posted here a while back when I bought mine.

rbAA

Hi there, just noticed that AA has an I fare for SFO-PVG. RT looks like $3440 all in (apx,) Mon thru Thursdays, blacked out the beginning of May. Also $1885 each way from LAX. Should be easily UPG'd to FC with eVP's or miles+copay. 3 month max stay. Didn't check many other cities, though SAN was available at $2k+ one way and was not available from ORD on the dates I checked. It is in the "Business Special" fare column when checking for Price+Schedule.

SFflyer123

It's been posted many times in the "premium fares" section.

dvs7310

I used to fly regularly on a similar NW fare. The restriction on point of sale only applied to residents of the Philippines. I always bought through NW, eticket issued stateside and never had a problem.