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Old Sep 20, 09, 4:57 pm   #1
 
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Here come the 319's

The first five 319's are coming in November. They are just starting to show up online. Nothing especially unexpected at this point, although this is the time of year to upgrade capacity to the sun markets, which is exactly what they're doing at this point.

MKE-MCO
7:05am
4:35pm

MKE-TPA
3:10pm (there's still a 7:20am but not a 319)

MKE-RSW
7:00am (just 1x/day at this point)

MKE-LAX
7:00am

MKE-BOS
4:35pm

MKE-PHX
7:05am
2:00pm

MKE-LAS
7:10am
4:30pm

Milwaukee-Denver goes to 2x 319 and 1x E190 and 2x E170
6:00am E190
7:25am E170
3:10pm 319
4:10pm E170
6:57pm 319

The morning E190 is to rotate an E190 into Denver, where some Frontier flights will become E190 as expected.
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Old Sep 20, 09, 5:38 pm   #2
 
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knope was there an operated by next to the flight numbers????
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Old Sep 20, 09, 5:40 pm   #3
 
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never mind I see how they are listed now!!
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Old Sep 20, 09, 6:26 pm   #4
 
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They are operated by Frontier, which is confirmation of something we already knew since it's impossible that Midwest would so quickly get a new type onto their certificate for operation by their crews.

There are indications that when the 717's go the Midwest certificate will be surrendered, but even if that does not happen (nothing is confirmed and plans can change, after all) there's no way these Airbus would be on the YX certificate yet.

Big unknowns at this point, of course, include:

(a) Midwest paint?
(b) Any seat changes...either day one or in short order?
(c) Onboard service YX, F9 or other?
(d) IFE?
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Old Sep 20, 09, 6:36 pm   #5
 
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They are operated by Frontier, which is confirmation of something we already knew since it's impossible that Midwest would so quickly get a new type onto their certificate for operation by their crews.

There are indications that when the 717's go the Midwest certificate will be surrendered, but even if that does not happen (nothing is confirmed and plans can change, after all) there's no way these Airbus would be on the YX certificate yet.

Big unknowns at this point, of course, include:

(a) Midwest paint?
(b) Any seat changes...either day one or in short order?
(c) Onboard service YX, F9 or other?
(d) IFE?
I see DEN - SAN will be operated by a "another airline" and the aircraft will be an E190. So I wonder if it will be Midwest operated by Republic?
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Old Sep 20, 09, 6:51 pm   #6
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They are operated by Frontier, which is confirmation of something we already knew since it's impossible that Midwest would so quickly get a new type onto their certificate for operation by their crews.

There are indications that when the 717's go the Midwest certificate will be surrendered, but even if that does not happen (nothing is confirmed and plans can change, after all) there's no way these Airbus would be on the YX certificate yet.

Big unknowns at this point, of course, include:

(a) Midwest paint?
(b) Any seat changes...either day one or in short order?
(c) Onboard service YX, F9 or other?
(d) IFE?
One other question comes to mind...Will this be bookable through Midwest or Frontier? Or just Midwest.

If it's Frontier, and the FF partnership with FL is still in place, one could earn AirTran A+ credits on this flight (if booked through Frontier) and FL elite benefits would also be applicable. Interesting.
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Old Sep 20, 09, 7:51 pm   #7
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If there aren't going to be Signature seats available for the West Coast, they can refund my November/December flights and I will book with AirTran.

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Old Sep 20, 09, 9:20 pm   #8
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More pertinent than if they are going to put signature seats (I guarantee they will be standard Frontier planes, so go ahead and re-book RSVP) in the Frontier planes is when will these planes be used to introduce more cities from Milwaukee...Bring back the west coast!!! I'm happy with the direct flight out west with DirecTV to every seat on the plane.
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Old Sep 20, 09, 9:22 pm   #9
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I just got off the phone with Midwest after being on hold for 30 minutes. The 319 will have no signature seats.

I canceled my trip and booked with AirTran. The agent tried to convince me to take the 1 stop MCI flight, but I wasn't interested.
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Old Sep 20, 09, 10:39 pm   #10
 
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There is no reason to fly "Midwest" anymore.
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Old Sep 20, 09, 10:39 pm   #11
 
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This is about to get real interesting. Republic is in a hurry to get the 319 in theater so they can retire the 717, which will mean they don't have to deal with the unions at YX. It's this "one airline" clause that the teamsters and Republic are trying to use to force the issue. No certificate, no union, no jobs. Real nice. You people need to dig a little further as to what is going on behind the scenes here. All I can say is, Frontier flight attendants, you better hurry up and bring in AFA. Your payscales are about to be rocked as you will fall under the Republic contract. RSVP, I don't blame you for booking on Airtran. This new airline, the one that is suppose to look and act like YX, is not YX. And in a matter of time, the folks at Frontier will begin to see the light.
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Old Sep 20, 09, 10:46 pm   #12
 
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I have HAD it with Midwest, if there even is such an airline. I have LAS tickets for January and now I will probably get a refund and switch to AirTran.
"Best Care in the Air" what a joke!!
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Old Sep 20, 09, 10:49 pm   #13
 
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Oh, I forgot. No one cares about the couple of thousand people who lost their jobs in all of this. Just as long as the new YX adds service and keeps the fares as low as possible everyone is happy. Maybe, just maybe they will take away the baggage fees. I know how much everyone hates that.

Honestly, I have said all I am going to say about this situation. I was a 20 plus year employee that left a couple of years ago as I saw the situation had the potential for going badly. I really hoped that it wouldn't, but I thought it would. There were a lot of wonderful people that were the heart of Midwest and those people have been pushed to the side. The new employees will never know what it felt like to be apart of an airline that used to blow other carriers out of the water, with employees who went above and beyond on a daily basis. Good luck to all.
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Old Sep 21, 09, 8:29 am   #14
 
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This is about to get real interesting. Republic is in a hurry to get the 319 in theater so they can retire the 717, which will mean they don't have to deal with the unions at YX.
Entirely predictable

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You people need to dig a little further as to what is going on behind the scenes here. All I can say is, Frontier flight attendants, you better hurry up and bring in AFA. Your payscales are about to be rocked as you will fall under the Republic contract.
Again, sad, but entirely predictable


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This new airline, the one that is suppose to look and act like YX, is not YX. And in a matter of time, the folks at Frontier will begin to see the light.
It's Delta Lite ; 'bout time folks woke up and smelled the coffee.

Checked some flights from MKE to Florida in March, nice to see the codeshare with Delta and Northwest showing; nice to see all the connections in ATL and DTW for you Milwaukee folks - bleed and feed!
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Old Sep 21, 09, 9:27 am   #15
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It's Delta Lite ; 'bout time folks woke up and smelled the coffee.
How is it "Delta Lite" when you can earn AirTran credits on the Frontier codeshares?
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