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Old Aug 6, 2014, 12:57 pm
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Immigration at TLV

Kind of curious what sort of experiences people have had with immigration at TLV. Will be in Israel for the first time later this year for a week, and am wondering how much "trouble" to expect with a passport that contains (among others)

Tourist Visas/Stamps from: Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran, Somalia, DR Congo

Business Visas from: Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan, Ukraine, Tajikistan

Diplomatic Visas from: Senegal, Russia, Nigeria

I'm fully prepared to have a "lengthy discussion" (and have all the documentation to back things up) but just curious how thorough Israeli immigration at TLV usually us.
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Old Aug 6, 2014, 5:27 pm
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I am curious too. My stamps include Yemen, Iran, Sudan, Somaliland and most of the Gulf States. We were considering flying into Amman and going overland to avoid TLV. With the current situation in Israel, the trip is not likely to happen though.
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Old Aug 7, 2014, 1:37 am
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This topic has been discussed at length many times in the various travel forums. There have been countless reports by people with passport stamps similar to yours who entered Israel without any extensive questioning. My American cousin visiting last month - he went to Beirut first, then flew to TLV (via Istanbul), and went through Immigration in a minute. Since the border with Jordan opened 20 yrs ago thousands of tourists enter Israel every month after touring other countries in the Middle East. The only question is whether you are a legitimate tourist.
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Old Aug 7, 2014, 5:15 am
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Indeed, I believe this is a topic often discussed on the forum. My general impression is that questioning is more thorough when you are leaving than when you are entering.
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Old Aug 7, 2014, 7:22 am
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Israel does not worry about profiling. The reality is if you are an Arab or a Muslim you should expect to be questioned more thoroughly.

At the end of, if you haven't done anything wrong, have valid reasons for visiting these places, and do not appear to be hiding something you will be allowed in
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Old Aug 8, 2014, 12:02 am
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In summary, your fears are exaggerated - for almost all tourists questioning upon arrival at TLV is no different than other airports (and probably easier than in the US, judging from many reports on the forums). You may be asked a few questions that appear to be pointless and silly. Reply politely and honestly.
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Old Aug 8, 2014, 2:31 am
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Just an additional point:

While I agree 100% with what mbgg said, just want to add that a bunch of the stamps you listed aren't even "problematic." Russia, Nigeria, etc. - these aren't even enemy states.

Diplomatic visas are also helpful.

All this being said, just echoing - be polite and honest. If you have nothing to hide (which I presume you don't), then you're fine.
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Old Aug 8, 2014, 11:55 am
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Echo what's said above -- be honest and serious and you'll be fine. I would arrive a bit early for departure flight though, since I would guess you'll get a few more questions.

But there's virtually no chance you'll be denied, either entering or leaving.

Why are there dip visas in private passport?
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Old Aug 8, 2014, 12:16 pm
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Originally Posted by Alpha Golf
Why are there dip visas in private passport?
Combo of two reasons: 1) country wouldn't recognize the dip passport or 2) needing too many visas as once in a short period so having to spread across documents
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Old Aug 8, 2014, 3:42 pm
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Perhaps my case is out of the norm, but out of several hundred arriving passengers at TLV, my wife and I (both U.S. citizens and professionals), along with three Palestinians, were pulled out of immigration lines. We were tourists, with confirmed hotels and outbound flights, but had the usual suspects in our passports (Yemen, Syria, Lebanon, Sudan, etc.). We were subjected to several hours of amateurish questioning (e.g. we know you are here to contribute money to the PLO, we know you have an arrest record on the FBI database, tell us what your real reason for visiting Israel is, blah, blah, blah). Contact lens were dumped out of cases and lost, film confiscated, hairdryer dismantled and torn up, wife searched head to toe ostensibly for explosives, and luggage contents dumped onto a table. We finally got in, as I am sure you will, but we'll never return. Maybe we caught the TLV version of the TSA on a bad day.
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Old Aug 8, 2014, 7:39 pm
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Originally Posted by RMC500
Perhaps my case is out of the norm, but out of several hundred arriving passengers at TLV, my wife and I (both U.S. citizens and professionals), along with three Palestinians, were pulled out of immigration lines. We were tourists, with confirmed hotels and outbound flights, but had the usual suspects in our passports (Yemen, Syria, Lebanon, Sudan, etc.). We were subjected to several hours of amateurish questioning (e.g. we know you are here to contribute money to the PLO, we know you have an arrest record on the FBI database, tell us what your real reason for visiting Israel is, blah, blah, blah). Contact lens were dumped out of cases and lost, film confiscated, hairdryer dismantled and torn up, wife searched head to toe ostensibly for explosives, and luggage contents dumped onto a table. We finally got in, as I am sure you will, but we'll never return. Maybe we caught the TLV version of the TSA on a bad day.
Unfortunately, your case is not out of the norm. You were treated the same as most Arab or Muslim travelers passing through Tel Aviv. The same treatment is also extended to people who visited suspect countries.

Even Donna Shalala, former U.S. Health and Human Services Secretary who is of Lebanese descent, was subjected to a two hours long detention and interrogation at Ben-Gurion Airport.
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Old Aug 8, 2014, 8:22 pm
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Unfortunately, your case is not out of the norm. You were treated the same as most Arab or Muslim travelers passing through Tel Aviv. The same treatment is also extended to people who visited suspect countries.
Well, I'll be sure to report back in November....or maybe I should just get a new passport before then...
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Old Aug 9, 2014, 4:29 am
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Millions of tourists enter via the airport. A large number enter through Jordan:

Of the 3.5 million visitors [in 2013], about 2.6 million arrived by air (73%). Some 381,000 tourists came in through border crossings (11%)

Do you really think that all are questioned at length ?? Your fears are exaggerated.

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Old Aug 9, 2014, 7:24 pm
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Originally Posted by ironmanjt
needing too many visas as once in a short period so having to spread across documents
I'm surprised they do that. And that it took you so long to get to Israel.
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Old Aug 10, 2014, 1:32 am
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Originally Posted by RMC500
Perhaps my case is out of the norm, but out of several hundred arriving passengers at TLV, my wife and I (both U.S. citizens and professionals), along with three Palestinians, were pulled out of immigration lines. We were tourists, with confirmed hotels and outbound flights, but had the usual suspects in our passports (Yemen, Syria, Lebanon, Sudan, etc.). We were subjected to several hours of amateurish questioning (e.g. we know you are here to contribute money to the PLO, we know you have an arrest record on the FBI database, tell us what your real reason for visiting Israel is, blah, blah, blah). Contact lens were dumped out of cases and lost, film confiscated, hairdryer dismantled and torn up, wife searched head to toe ostensibly for explosives, and luggage contents dumped onto a table. We finally got in, as I am sure you will, but we'll never return. Maybe we caught the TLV version of the TSA on a bad day.
Contrary to what a few others post ad nauseam on FT, your experience is out of the ordinary.
The truth is, anyone who has Palestinian citizenship/residency will have a harder time. This is based on legal issues between Israel and the PA, and whether or not people are happy with that - this isn't the place to debate it. But it's true, and that applies even to Americans of Palestinian descent.

However, simply having stamps isn't an issue for either passport control or security. More questions, sure. Hours and hours, humiliation (i.e. the horror stories that have been posted) - no.

Being Arab is another story. However, being Arab doesn't equate with hours and hours, side rooms, cameras broken, computers stolen, etc.
People who claim that don't seem to have an understanding of TLV. It is literally impossible for all non-Arabs to clear in such a quick time (I waited maybe 3 times in my entire life more than 10 minutes on the line as a whole) yet the Arabs ALL take hours (when they represent a decent minority percentage of flyers), when there are how many agents working passport control? It's Israel, so probably 2
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