Westfield, NJ to Lancaster, PA Thursday evening
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Westfield, NJ to Lancaster, PA Thursday evening
I'm looking for advice on which way to go at about 3:30pm on a Thursday (not Thanksgiving week) from Westfield, NJ to Lancaster, PA.
There seem to be at least 3 main ways with several options for each.
1. GSP to I-95 to I-276 to I-76 to Route 222
2. I-78 to Route 222
3. I-78 to route 501
Option 1 has the longest stretch on a major highway but involves going through the Philadelphia area at rush hour which could significantly delay the trip.
Option 2 has a long stretch on Route 222 which I don't know how fast you can go on, if there are traffic lights etc...
Option 3 has the longest stretch on the highway without going through Philadelphia but involves 25+ miles on Route 501 with a few jogs and turns. It will be dark so there is a chance of getting lost or off-track since I'm not familiar with this road (or Route 222).
Anyone know these roads?
There seem to be at least 3 main ways with several options for each.
1. GSP to I-95 to I-276 to I-76 to Route 222
2. I-78 to Route 222
3. I-78 to route 501
Option 1 has the longest stretch on a major highway but involves going through the Philadelphia area at rush hour which could significantly delay the trip.
Option 2 has a long stretch on Route 222 which I don't know how fast you can go on, if there are traffic lights etc...
Option 3 has the longest stretch on the highway without going through Philadelphia but involves 25+ miles on Route 501 with a few jogs and turns. It will be dark so there is a chance of getting lost or off-track since I'm not familiar with this road (or Route 222).
Anyone know these roads?
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None of them are ideal options but I think you'll be okay.
I wouldn't consider any part of the PA turnpike (I-276 and I-76) to be going "through" Philly but you ~could~ encounter heavy, and slow, traffic from Jersey through possibly the Valley Forge exit based on the times you'd be driving through.
I don't know 501 at all.
And the problem of 222 is that you can get the best and worst of both 4-lane highway and 2-lane back road and everything in between.
I think I-78 is your best bet to begin your trip but that leaves you with the 222 and 501 options.
I'm torn between option 1 and option 2 but I think I go with option 2.
I wouldn't consider any part of the PA turnpike (I-276 and I-76) to be going "through" Philly but you ~could~ encounter heavy, and slow, traffic from Jersey through possibly the Valley Forge exit based on the times you'd be driving through.
I don't know 501 at all.
And the problem of 222 is that you can get the best and worst of both 4-lane highway and 2-lane back road and everything in between.
I think I-78 is your best bet to begin your trip but that leaves you with the 222 and 501 options.
I'm torn between option 1 and option 2 but I think I go with option 2.
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Greetings fellow Flyertalker I am from Scotch Plains!
Anyway in terms of route I would do option 2. I drive from Scotch Plains to Reading fairly oftent. As long as you miss the school bus traffic you should be ok on 222. It is a little slow as it is 1 lane each way in parts and there are quite a few lights. It really is hit or miss but there is no better way in my opinion to get to the Lancaster area. I can usually make Reading in 2 hours when I leave at 7am on a weekday.
Safe travels!
Anyway in terms of route I would do option 2. I drive from Scotch Plains to Reading fairly oftent. As long as you miss the school bus traffic you should be ok on 222. It is a little slow as it is 1 lane each way in parts and there are quite a few lights. It really is hit or miss but there is no better way in my opinion to get to the Lancaster area. I can usually make Reading in 2 hours when I leave at 7am on a weekday.
Safe travels!
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None of them are ideal options but I think you'll be okay.
I wouldn't consider any part of the PA turnpike (I-276 and I-76) to be going "through" Philly but you ~could~ encounter heavy, and slow, traffic from Jersey through possibly the Valley Forge exit based on the times you'd be driving through.
I don't know 501 at all.
And the problem of 222 is that you can get the best and worst of both 4-lane highway and 2-lane back road and everything in between.
I think I-78 is your best bet to begin your trip but that leaves you with the 222 and 501 options.
I'm torn between option 1 and option 2 but I think I go with option 2.
I wouldn't consider any part of the PA turnpike (I-276 and I-76) to be going "through" Philly but you ~could~ encounter heavy, and slow, traffic from Jersey through possibly the Valley Forge exit based on the times you'd be driving through.
I don't know 501 at all.
And the problem of 222 is that you can get the best and worst of both 4-lane highway and 2-lane back road and everything in between.
I think I-78 is your best bet to begin your trip but that leaves you with the 222 and 501 options.
I'm torn between option 1 and option 2 but I think I go with option 2.
Thanks for the tips so far, keep them coming. FWIW... I don't consider the PA Turnpike Philly either. I called it the "Philadelphia area" to indicate suburbs, and outlying areas.
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Let me propose another option... I-78 to I-81, to I-283.
It's not the most direct, but given that 222 is, or recently was under construction, and the portions of 222 that are two lane can get pretty congested, it might be the better option. You might hit some leftover rush hour traffic around Harrisburg, but nothing too bad.
It's not the most direct, but given that 222 is, or recently was under construction, and the portions of 222 that are two lane can get pretty congested, it might be the better option. You might hit some leftover rush hour traffic around Harrisburg, but nothing too bad.
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Let me propose another option... I-78 to I-81, to I-283.
It's not the most direct, but given that 222 is, or recently was under construction, and the portions of 222 that are two lane can get pretty congested, it might be the better option. You might hit some leftover rush hour traffic around Harrisburg, but nothing too bad.
It's not the most direct, but given that 222 is, or recently was under construction, and the portions of 222 that are two lane can get pretty congested, it might be the better option. You might hit some leftover rush hour traffic around Harrisburg, but nothing too bad.
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Having driven 222 from Lancaster to 78 to get to New Jersey just 2 weeks ago, I'd opt for going up to 81 to 78, rather than take 222 again. But, I'd rather go a bit out of my way and keep moving, rather than spend ages sitting in traffic trying to merge onto a two lane road or deal with construction.
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I've driven that route on summer days mostly and didn't find 222 bad at all. I guess it all depends on what we consider to be bad traffic. If we're moving at a decent pace, who cares that there's traffic on the road. That's my approach as someone accustomed to bumper-to-bumper NYC traffic.
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I've driven that route on summer days mostly and didn't find 222 bad at all. I guess it all depends on what we consider to be bad traffic. If we're moving at a decent pace, who cares that there's traffic on the road. That's my approach as someone accustomed to bumper-to-bumper NYC traffic.
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I'm looking for advice on which way to go at about 3:30pm on a Thursday (not Thanksgiving week) from Westfield, NJ to Lancaster, PA.
There seem to be at least 3 main ways with several options for each.
1. GSP to I-95 to I-276 to I-76 to Route 222
2. I-78 to Route 222
3. I-78 to route 501
There seem to be at least 3 main ways with several options for each.
1. GSP to I-95 to I-276 to I-76 to Route 222
2. I-78 to Route 222
3. I-78 to route 501
And...I'll just throw this out there and I assume you already know about this...but Amtrak offers frequent service btw northern New Jersey and Lancaster on the Keystone trains.
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The paving work on 222 north of LNS is done, but there is still some remaining work that will require periodic lane closures (link) [click on "Project Updates" after clicking the link!].
If you are outside the 8-10 am and 3-6 pm windows, I think OPs route #2 (using 222) is the fastest, even if 222 has a lane closure. If there is a lane closure on 222 and you hit it during a peak period, it can get pretty backed up. However, even during one of these peak periods, taking 222 might still be the fastest--you have the 'stuck in traffic' feeling during the congested stretch, but can move fairly well the rest of the time.
If you are outside the 8-10 am and 3-6 pm windows, I think OPs route #2 (using 222) is the fastest, even if 222 has a lane closure. If there is a lane closure on 222 and you hit it during a peak period, it can get pretty backed up. However, even during one of these peak periods, taking 222 might still be the fastest--you have the 'stuck in traffic' feeling during the congested stretch, but can move fairly well the rest of the time.
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As one who used to live in Reading and go to college in the Lehigh Valley, I'm torn on this. If you get stuck behind a truck on 222 between Kutztown & Reading, it can take what feels like a long time from PA 662 to PA 73. Eventually, I made it my goal to spend as little time as possible on 222. But in your case, option #1 just feels out of the way (and expensive!), and I'd agree #3 would take way too long. I'd take #2 with a slight modification:
I-78 to PA 737 to US 222.
I-78 is close to parallel to US 222 from Allentown to Kutztown, and I think even with the relatively new US 222 stretch around Trexlertown, staying on I-78 slightly longer is better.
I-78 to PA 737 to US 222.
I-78 is close to parallel to US 222 from Allentown to Kutztown, and I think even with the relatively new US 222 stretch around Trexlertown, staying on I-78 slightly longer is better.
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I ended up taking route 3... I-78 to rt. 501
It worked out fairly well. We hit traffic from Morristown to Allentown on I-78 and had a few stop and starts but it didn't delay us that much. I guess people commute from PA to NJ where the housing is cheaper. After that, the only issue I had was a 20 mile (maybe it was 15 or 25 mile) stretch of 55 mph speed limit in PA. Ridiculous. It's not exactly NYC or Philly.
501 on a Thursday evening was fairly empty and a well-maintained road with good signage. I actually got slightly lost in the dailylight on the way home Sunday enjoying the scenery. We stopped in Brickerville for dinner on the way to Lancaster which might have been my wife's favorite stop of the trip so that worked out well. It took about 3 hours including the traffic but was more of an adventure than going with rt. 222
It worked out fairly well. We hit traffic from Morristown to Allentown on I-78 and had a few stop and starts but it didn't delay us that much. I guess people commute from PA to NJ where the housing is cheaper. After that, the only issue I had was a 20 mile (maybe it was 15 or 25 mile) stretch of 55 mph speed limit in PA. Ridiculous. It's not exactly NYC or Philly.
501 on a Thursday evening was fairly empty and a well-maintained road with good signage. I actually got slightly lost in the dailylight on the way home Sunday enjoying the scenery. We stopped in Brickerville for dinner on the way to Lancaster which might have been my wife's favorite stop of the trip so that worked out well. It took about 3 hours including the traffic but was more of an adventure than going with rt. 222