Community
Wiki Posts
Search

Three Marriotts in one

 
Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Apr 27, 2015, 4:31 pm
  #1  
Original Poster
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: MID
Programs: Delta Skymiles Lifetime Silver, Delta MM, Lifetime Marriott Plat, Lifetime Hilton Honors Diamond
Posts: 366
Three Marriotts in one

I don't get the point of this. http://www.tennessean.com/story/mone...obro/26134859/
Jump is offline  
Old Apr 27, 2015, 5:10 pm
  #2  
Moderator, Marriott Bonvoy & FlyerTalk Evangelist
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: McKinney, TX, USA
Programs: United Silver; AA Plat/2MM; Marriott LT Titanium; Hilton Gold
Posts: 11,727
The article itself actually states what they think the benefits will be. Cheaper staff expenses through employee sharing. Attract more customers through different sales/price/service points with multiple brands. IOW, they are hoping to be able to fill up more rooms per night with multiple brands than if they had the same number of rooms in a single branded hotel.

Now whether it will work out as cheaply and well as they think or hope? That is a different story.
hhoope01 is offline  
Old Apr 27, 2015, 5:21 pm
  #3  
 
Join Date: May 2002
Programs: AAdvantage Platinum, United Silver, Marriott Titanium Elite
Posts: 2,276
For the past couple of decades, it's been common for a hotel developer to build two or three hotels side-by-side at the same suburban location, such as a Courtyard, a Fairfield, and a Springhill. In recent years, there have been also been cases of two or three hotels stacked in a single building. It's really the same thing, even though the physical arrangement is different.

The newspaper writer picked poor wording when he called it a "tri-branded Marriot hotel with 455 rooms." (He even misspelled Marriott.) It's not one tri-branded hotel. It's three separate hotels in the same structure, each with a single brand.

The biggest surprise to me is that the three brands are AC Hotel by Marriott, Residence Inn by Marriott, and SpringHill Suites by Marriott. I thought Marriott was committed to locating hip AC Hotels in hip locations and keeping some distance — perceptually and literally — between AC Hotels and traditional Marriott brands.
Horace is offline  
Old Apr 27, 2015, 6:12 pm
  #4  
Moderator: Alaska Mileage Plan
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 12,316
Shared properties usually have more robust (common) workout facilities, which are much larger and better equipped than what a single property would offer.
dayone is offline  
Old Apr 27, 2015, 7:35 pm
  #5  
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: TLV
Programs: UA Platinum, Avis Chairman, Marriott Gold, Hilton Gold, GA Pilot
Posts: 3,225
Accor does this all the time with Novotel/Mercure/Ibis next to each other.
NYTA is offline  
Old Apr 27, 2015, 7:38 pm
  #6  
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 4,374
Originally Posted by hhoope01
Cheaper staff expenses through employee sharing.
Cheaper expenses -> easier to cut corners -> degraded guest experience.

I stayed at a (Hilton) Embassy Suites across from a Hampton Inn. My suite had the Embassy brand shampoo, Hampton brand conditioner, and Embassy brand lotion.
davie355 is offline  
Old Apr 27, 2015, 10:20 pm
  #7  
Moderator: Alaska Mileage Plan
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 12,316
Originally Posted by davie355
Cheaper expenses -> easier to cut corners -> degraded guest experience.
Orange -> wood -> radio.
dayone is offline  
Old Apr 28, 2015, 8:21 am
  #8  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: BOS
Programs: DL DM 2MM, Marriott LT Titanium, Hertz PC, Avis PC
Posts: 15,192
The problem is going to be keeping the level of service up for the higher end property that is in there. Are you going to get crowds of families from the RI packing in to the quieter areas of the AC? How about shared breakfast, gym, and pool facilities again taken by larger groups that can be common in a SHS and RI and end up cheapening the AC experience?
rylan is offline  
Old Apr 28, 2015, 10:33 am
  #9  
Original Member
 
Join Date: May 1998
Location: DFW,TX USA
Programs: Lifetime Platinum Marriott
Posts: 1,568
I have seen the side-by-side before, but this one says that each hotel will be on a floor range.
That is sort of weird.

But it works for cruise ships so who knows.
rthib is offline  
Old Apr 28, 2015, 10:33 am
  #10  
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 1,337
Originally Posted by Jump
I don't get the point of this.
Simple. Developer thinks it will maximize profit. Next topic.
MileageGoblin is offline  
Old Apr 28, 2015, 2:21 pm
  #11  
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: CA
Posts: 135
There is a Hampton/Homewood in downtown Denver like this. Floors 2-6 are Hampton and 7-12 are Homewood. They have separate check in desks and separate breakfast areas but share all others amenities (pool, gym etc)
nicnac16 is offline  
Old Apr 28, 2015, 2:41 pm
  #12  
 
Join Date: May 2002
Programs: AAdvantage Platinum, United Silver, Marriott Titanium Elite
Posts: 2,276
Originally Posted by rylan
The problem is going to be keeping the level of service up for the higher end property that is in there. Are you going to get crowds of families from the RI packing in to the quieter areas of the AC? How about shared breakfast, gym, and pool facilities again taken by larger groups that can be common in a SHS and RI and end up cheapening the AC experience?
Originally Posted by rthib
I have seen the side-by-side before, but this one says that each hotel will be on a floor range.
That is sort of weird.
They can still be separate hotels with their own amenities, such as breakfast rooms or restaurants. And it doesn't strike me as weird to stack hotels by floor range.

By stacking the three hotels, the real estate is used more efficiently. Separate side-by-side buildings work when the hotels are built on a big empty field at an Interstate exit, but a high-rise with ranges of floors makes sense where the property is more constrained and costlier.

Each of the hotels could have a separate porte cochere, entrance, and lobby on a different side of the building, with a separate bank of elevators only serving floors associated with each hotel.
Horace is offline  
Old Apr 28, 2015, 3:19 pm
  #13  
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: CLT
Programs: AA-EXP, MR-PP
Posts: 3,440
Originally Posted by rylan
The problem is going to be keeping the level of service up for the higher end property that is in there. Are you going to get crowds of families from the RI packing in to the quieter areas of the AC? How about shared breakfast, gym, and pool facilities again taken by larger groups that can be common in a SHS and RI and end up cheapening the AC experience?
If you read the article you see that RI and SHS will be in one part on different floors while AC will be separate portion on all floors. Basically two buildings with shared wall.
iztok is offline  
Old Apr 28, 2015, 3:21 pm
  #14  
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: CLT
Programs: AA-EXP, MR-PP
Posts: 3,440
Four Seasons in Las Vegas is good example. It is on top of Mandalay Bay hotel.
iztok is offline  
Old Apr 28, 2015, 7:48 pm
  #15  
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: BTR
Programs: DL GM, UA Silver, Marriott Plat, National Exec
Posts: 1,810
The problem is going to be keeping the level of service up for the higher end property that is in there. Are you going to get crowds of families from the RI packing in to the quieter areas of the AC? How about shared breakfast, gym, and pool facilities again taken by larger groups that can be common in a SHS and RI and end up cheapening the AC experience?
I'm aware of five Marriott sites with multiple properties in the same building/block:

- RI & CY: Downtown Austin, TX
- CY, Ritz, & Saint (Autograph): New Orleans
- Ren & RI: Arlington, VA
- CY & SHS: New Orleans
- JW & Ritz: Los Angeles Live


All have their own check in desks and any shared areas are prevented access via key card. Isn't a big deal, IMO.
lsugolfer is offline  


Contact Us - Manage Preferences - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

This site is owned, operated, and maintained by MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Designated trademarks are the property of their respective owners.