2013 Marriott Rewards Hotel Category Changes List
Feb 11, 2013, 5:04 pm
#1
Original Poster
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Rancho Mirage, CA
Programs: Marriott Lifetime Titanium
Posts: 322
2013 Marriott Rewards Hotel Category Changes List
Just released on Marriott Insiders:
http://www.rewards-insiders.marriott.com/docs/DOC-1655
Some discouraging news and a Category 9?
http://www.rewards-insiders.marriott.com/docs/DOC-1655
Some discouraging news and a Category 9?
Feb 11, 2013, 5:08 pm
#2
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: MCO, DCA, IAD
Programs: UA GS 1MM, Marriott Ambassador & Lifetime Titanium, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 2,134
This is from the Marriott Insider Post
Hotel Category Points Required Per Night
Category 1 7,500
Category 2 10,000
Category 3 15,000
Category 4 20,000
Category 5 25,000
Category 6 30,000
Category 7 35,000
Category 8 40,000
Category 9 45,000
What’s changing?
The changes are effective for all redemption reservations booked after May 16, 2013. In addition, Marriott Rewards is adding a Category 9 to the award schedule which will require 45,000 points per night. The points required for Categories 1 to 8 will not be changing.
How many hotels are affected?
73% of the programs properties will remain in Categories 1-4.
63% of the properties remain unchanged.
1% of the properties will decrease by one or more categories.
36% of the properties will increase by one or more categories.
Hotel Category Points Required Per Night
Category 1 7,500
Category 2 10,000
Category 3 15,000
Category 4 20,000
Category 5 25,000
Category 6 30,000
Category 7 35,000
Category 8 40,000
Category 9 45,000
What’s changing?
The changes are effective for all redemption reservations booked after May 16, 2013. In addition, Marriott Rewards is adding a Category 9 to the award schedule which will require 45,000 points per night. The points required for Categories 1 to 8 will not be changing.
How many hotels are affected?
73% of the programs properties will remain in Categories 1-4.
63% of the properties remain unchanged.
1% of the properties will decrease by one or more categories.
36% of the properties will increase by one or more categories.
Feb 11, 2013, 5:11 pm
#3
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: MCO, DCA, IAD
Programs: UA GS 1MM, Marriott Ambassador & Lifetime Titanium, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 2,134
These will be the new Category 9 properties:
Boston Marriott Long Wharf
Le Merigot, A JW Marriott Beach Hotel & Spa, Santa Monica
London Marriott Hotel County Hall
London Marriott Hotel Grosvenor Square
Grosvenor House, A JW Marriott Hotel
London Marriott Hotel Park Lane
JW Marriott Essex House
New York Marriott Marquis
Paris Marriott Hotel Champs-Elysees
St. Pancras Renaissance London Hotel
Renaissance New York Hotel Times Square
Renaissance Paris Vendome Hotel
Renaissance Paris Arc de Triomphe Hotel
Boston Marriott Long Wharf
Le Merigot, A JW Marriott Beach Hotel & Spa, Santa Monica
London Marriott Hotel County Hall
London Marriott Hotel Grosvenor Square
Grosvenor House, A JW Marriott Hotel
London Marriott Hotel Park Lane
JW Marriott Essex House
New York Marriott Marquis
Paris Marriott Hotel Champs-Elysees
St. Pancras Renaissance London Hotel
Renaissance New York Hotel Times Square
Renaissance Paris Vendome Hotel
Renaissance Paris Arc de Triomphe Hotel
Feb 11, 2013, 5:20 pm
#4
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Minneapolis: DL DM charter 2.3MM
Programs: A3*Gold, SPG Plat, HyattDiamond, MarriottPP, LHW exAccess, ICI, Raffles Amb, NW PE MM, TWA Gold MM
Posts: 100,399
Wow, one page of hotels moving down a category and 28 pages of hotels moving up. Maybe they should have instead showed us the (short) list of hotels not moving up.
It looks to me like a massive devaluation of points with well over one third of their properties moving up one or more categories.
It looks to me like a massive devaluation of points with well over one third of their properties moving up one or more categories.
Feb 11, 2013, 5:23 pm
#5
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: MCO, DCA, IAD
Programs: UA GS 1MM, Marriott Ambassador & Lifetime Titanium, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 2,134
Wow, one page of hotels moving down a category and 28 pages of hotels moving up. Maybe they should have instead showed us the (short) list of hotels not moving up.
It looks to me like a massive devaluation of points with well over one third of their properties moving up one or more categories.
It looks to me like a massive devaluation of points with well over one third of their properties moving up one or more categories.
Does this cat change mean a change of service as well? Some of the properties with a cat increase are known to be quite outdated and poor in service quality.
Feb 11, 2013, 5:24 pm
#6
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Washington State
Programs: Delta Platinum, Marriott Gold
Posts: 330
What ifyou already have a reservation with a certificate?
Just yesterday I made a reservation at a hotel on the list that is moving from category 4 to 5 using one of the MegaBonus category 1-4 certs. In the past, did they honor reservations made prior to the change?
Thanks.
Thanks.
Feb 11, 2013, 5:26 pm
#7
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: MCO, DCA, IAD
Programs: UA GS 1MM, Marriott Ambassador & Lifetime Titanium, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 2,134
[I]All redemption reservations booked on or before May 15th for stays after May 16th will be honored at the point price booked. If you have not ordered your certificate prior to May 15th, call Guest Services to request the lower priced certificate before your stay.[I]
Feb 11, 2013, 5:30 pm
#8
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: BOS/EAP
Programs: UA 1K, MR LTT, HH Dia, Amex Plat
Posts: 32,017
wow, that's rough but not unexpected. Cat. 9 is a joke IMO.
Feb 11, 2013, 5:34 pm
#9
Suspended
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Thailand
Programs: Marriott - P; HH - G; Hyatt - P; Avis - LT First
Posts: 5,023
seriously unbalanced..............catagories allegedly increase/decrease due to redemption, however based upon a quick review of the changes announced just puts another nail into the big lie..........Just released on Marriott Insiders:
http://www.rewards-insiders.marriott.com/docs/DOC-1655
Some discouraging news and a Category 9?
http://www.rewards-insiders.marriott.com/docs/DOC-1655
Some discouraging news and a Category 9?
Feb 11, 2013, 5:42 pm
#10
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: CHI
Programs: UA 1K, MR Titanium, IHG Gold, National Exec
Posts: 3,841
Wow, so many Cat 4 CYs are gone... I've never considered Marriott points very useful but this really devalues Megabonus/CC certs as well.
Feb 11, 2013, 5:53 pm
#11
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Cockeysville, MD
Programs: Marriott Rewards Lifetime Titanium, Amex Plat, Hertz Gold 5*, National Exec, AA Plat
Posts: 9,467
HOLY CRAP CY Ocean City is going to a Category 8.
Feb 11, 2013, 5:54 pm
#12
Join Date: Oct 2011
Programs: DL PM, Marriott Platinum,Hertz Pres Circle
Posts: 215
One of my fav hotels
in Bangkok the renaissance ratchaprasong is no longer a CAT4--
this was by far one of the best values for the CAT4 certs
JW Hong Kong
Renaissance Hong Kong
JW Rio de Janierio are all going up
this was by far one of the best values for the CAT4 certs
JW Hong Kong
Renaissance Hong Kong
JW Rio de Janierio are all going up
36% of the properties will increase by one or more categories.
Last edited by gibraltar87; Feb 11, 2013 at 5:59 pm
Feb 11, 2013, 6:10 pm
#13
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Cockeysville, MD
Programs: Marriott Rewards Lifetime Titanium, Amex Plat, Hertz Gold 5*, National Exec, AA Plat
Posts: 9,467
Book our stays now.
Feb 11, 2013, 6:15 pm
#14
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Pittsburgh
Programs: MR/SPG LT Titanium, AA LT PLT, UA SLV, Avis PreferredPlus
Posts: 31,004
nevermind....
Feb 11, 2013, 6:22 pm
#15
Join Date: Feb 2005
Programs: Marriott Lifetime Titanium (former PP), Hilton Silver, UA Silver, AS Member, Hertz 5*
Posts: 3,906
I think this devaulation is worse than the 2009 one for platinum members. There is no increase in bonus points for platinum members this time, and they basically made each category worth the previously lower one. Cat 5 is the new 4 and so on with the new category 9. A lot of solid category 3 properties are now 4. Some properties like La Jolla Marriott have gone from category 4 to 6 in two years.
If Marriott is going to charge these rates for award rooms, they need to stop the excuse of not offering free breakfast on weekends at USA/Canada properties for gold and platinum members.
If Marriott is going to charge these rates for award rooms, they need to stop the excuse of not offering free breakfast on weekends at USA/Canada properties for gold and platinum members.