Community
Wiki Posts
Search
Old Jan 7, 2016, 8:18 am
FlyerTalk Forums Expert How-Tos and Guides
Last edit by: RedSun
This is the 2016 and onwards Bluebird thread.

The original discussion. The previous 2013- 2014 megathread. The previous 2015 megathread.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Read the wiki before posting a question.

The most recent huge wave of shutdowns occurred in May 2019.

Most accounts used for MS were shut down on Jan 8, 2016. Another wave of shutdowns occurred on March 4, 2016. Using Bluebird for MS is very likely to lead to account closure. There is no clear pattern as to how to avoid the account shut-downs. Some of the dormant accounts were not shut down.


Check your BB load limits BEFORE asking in this thread about "tender not allowed" or any other errors.

Bluebird website. There's no need to buy a Bluebird kit in-store; sign-up free on the website.

For information on switching from BB to Serve, see the Serve thread wiki.

Bluebird Load Limits:
  • Cash loading: $2,500 ($1,999.99 at Walmart) per card per day; $9,000 per day all BB cards combined; $5,000 total per calendar month each card; $10,000 calendar month and $100,000 per year all BB cards combined for each SSN.
  • Direct Deposit: $100,000 per year
  • Online Debit Card Load* - $200/day and $1,000/month
  • Checking/Savings Account - $2,000/month
  • Mobile Check Capture by Ingo® Money - $5,000/day and $10,000/month
  • ATM Withdrawals - $750/day and $2,000/month

The cash load limit for a temp card is $1,500 total.

*For online debit load, only use of bank-issued cards is allowed. The use of pre-paid debit cards (Netspend, Paypower, Univision, Paypal, etc.) and VGC/MGC/AGCs is not allowed. Your account will be flagged upon first/second attempt. If blocked, call Account Protection Services at 1-800-660-2454 to clear it (9am-8pm EST, Mon-Fri).

The day currently resets around midnight Eastern/11pm Central/10pm Mountain/9pm Pacific.

For online bill pay
  • You can pay the credit card that you used to buy reloads
  • Error 1302 means that you have 1 pending payment the same amount as the one you just submitted. For example, 1000 bill pay to sapphire preferred from Friday and then on Saturday you submit another bill pay for 1000 to sapphire preferred, you will get this error.
  • Tip: if using online bill pay to the same place multiple times, vary your amounts by $0.01 to make it easier to track since your confirmation number does not match the tracking number on your credit card statement


Loading with debit card at Walmart
Self checkout does not work for loading.

Many Walmart stores are enforcing a rule against the use of gift cards when loading, even though the register and the MCE do not enforce. Do not make your prepaid debit cards visible. Show them a bank debit card if asked. Otherwise, you may be asked by management to never visit the MC again to load with gift cards.

Loads at register over $500 will sometimes trigger ID requirement. There is a limit of four swipes per transaction; this means your card plus three payments.

If your card doesn't say "debit" on the front, it isn't a debit card.

Please see http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/manuf...bit-cards.html for additional information on using prepaid debit cards.

Training a WM cashier:
  • If the WM cashier doesn't know how to load the card, advise them to enter "70" then press "action code".
  • If you are using a temp card that doesn't have your name on it, you can swipe the card from your side of the terminal. The WM rep never has to touch any of your cards. The screen will say "enter account." That is your prompt to slide the card.
  • The terminal will ask the WM employee if you are loading in multiples of $2000. Advise them to enter "no."
  • Avoid saying gift card. Always refer to your card as a debit card.

Error Messages:
DEBIT NOT AVAILABLE
Received when I used a card I thought I had activated but hadn't.

DEBIT NOT APPROVED
Received when the card's monthly load limit had been reached.

TENDER NOT ALLOWED
Card was incorrectly read, or wrong PIN entered .

HOST TIMEOUT
Connection problems. The GC may be drained but the transaction should reverse itself, and funds will become available again. Try again later.

Print Wikipost

Bluebird master thread (2016 onwards)

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jun 23, 2016, 11:28 pm
  #481  
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Los Angles
Posts: 2,101
Originally Posted by Mamibear
IME loading at registers (the SCO cashiers are the best in my area)I don't press any other button aside from confirm load amount to unload vanillas in increments <$50. I cannot say whether other WM registers does the same thing since there have been a lot of SW upgrades reported in different regions.
interesting......How many loads? total $ limit?
prasha11 is offline  
Old Jun 24, 2016, 7:01 am
  #482  
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 3,688
Originally Posted by prasha11
interesting......How many loads? total $ limit?
I paid a WMcc at the desk using TgtVGC for 49.90 and after swiping card, it didn't prompt for PIN and the receipt just printed. It was odd that register allowed paying CC with CC (VGCs can run either D or C) but cashier said it was because it was under $50. I'm not complaining

I didn't push it by doing another 'payment' since that was the remaining balance on my TgtVGC.
Mamibear is offline  
Old Jul 8, 2016, 3:05 am
  #483  
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 4
When I close my BB account, will I get paper confirmation via US mail or does it all happen online?

My account still has an old address and I don't want to update it unless necessary.
Capt 747 is offline  
Old Jul 8, 2016, 9:08 am
  #484  
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Posts: 30
Hi all. I have never had a BB before. I just signed up for it. I was reading here and are VSG's no longer good for BB? I just used some on my new Serve this week. thanks
beaver24 is offline  
Old Aug 2, 2016, 5:13 pm
  #485  
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: MDW
Programs: WN (CP 6x, A+ 2x), Marriott (LT Titanium), Hyatt Explorer, Hertz PC, UA/*A Silver
Posts: 425
Shutdown....

Just had my last two BB/Serve accounts suspended and locked. See this post for a few more details. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/27005761-post1579.html
illinidad is offline  
Old Aug 20, 2016, 9:57 pm
  #486  
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Posts: 826
My serve was shut down 6 months ago, tried to apply again every 30 days, still no luck. Looks like it is a permanent shutdown by SSN. Anyone noticed the same?
Gitangali is offline  
Old Aug 21, 2016, 8:13 pm
  #487  
 
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: BOS
Posts: 40
Originally Posted by Gitangali
My serve was shut down 6 months ago, tried to apply again every 30 days, still no luck. Looks like it is a permanent shutdown by SSN. Anyone noticed the same?
That seems to be the case. I haven't heard of anyone who was shut down being able to open a new account.
Coldmode is offline  
Old Aug 22, 2016, 9:16 pm
  #488  
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: IAD
Programs: All of them to one degree or another
Posts: 447
What is the youngest age card holder anyone has been able to sign up?
DeaconY is offline  
Old Aug 23, 2016, 4:14 pm
  #489  
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: MDW
Programs: WN (CP 6x, A+ 2x), Marriott (LT Titanium), Hyatt Explorer, Hertz PC, UA/*A Silver
Posts: 425
Originally Posted by DeaconY
What is the youngest age card holder anyone has been able to sign up?
18
illinidad is offline  
Old Aug 23, 2016, 8:51 pm
  #490  
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: IAD
Programs: All of them to one degree or another
Posts: 447
Originally Posted by illinidad
18
Crap. So no joy for my 3 month old?
DeaconY is offline  
Old Aug 25, 2016, 1:30 pm
  #491  
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 35
Last Bluebird got shut today...too bad...it was a good run
chalucky is offline  
Old Aug 25, 2016, 1:33 pm
  #492  
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Posts: 30
Bluebird still open havent max it out yet this month. Serve shut down. Looks like I might be good though I got an email from Bluebird asking how my experience yesterday was when transferring money.
beaver24 is offline  
Old Aug 25, 2016, 1:49 pm
  #493  
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 771
well after MS a few thousand a couple of months ago i got the email that i can't load anymore funds. This is the first time in my small MS career that i get 'shut down' ...well time to move on to money order once i decide to get some more points
jordandawg05 is offline  
Old Aug 25, 2016, 2:33 pm
  #494  
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 714
My last BB just got whacked due to unusual load patterns
diseased is offline  
Old Aug 25, 2016, 7:31 pm
  #495  
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Posts: 9
I got 2 shutdown today.
Donna16 is offline  


Contact Us - Manage Preferences - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

This site is owned, operated, and maintained by MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Designated trademarks are the property of their respective owners.