"Costco to Pay Almost Zero to Accept Credit Cards" MSing revolution?
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"Costco to Pay Almost Zero to Accept Credit Cards" MSing revolution?
Costco to Pay Almost Zero to Accept Credit Cards, a MSing revolution?
http://old.seattletimes.com/html/ift...yndication=rss
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articl...citigroup-deal
http://old.seattletimes.com/html/ift...yndication=rss
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articl...citigroup-deal
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So what's the new information here? We all know that Costco has a lot of power to push their conditions onto almost every supplier. We all know that cost was the single most important factor in changing provider. That's why Walmart is building up intense pricing pressure for the big name brand suppliers like PG, PEP, KRFT, CLX etc. Some companies make 30% of their revenue from WMT so they have to give in. Same with Costco I suppose.
I don't see a connection to MS though...
I don't see a connection to MS though...
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So what's the new information here? We all know that Costco has a lot of power to push their conditions onto almost every supplier. We all know that cost was the single most important factor in changing provider. That's why Walmart is building up intense pricing pressure for the big name brand suppliers like PG, PEP, KRFT, CLX etc. Some companies make 30% of their revenue from WMT so they have to give in. Same with Costco I suppose.
I don't see a connection to MS though...
I don't see a connection to MS though...
Why citi agreed to almost '0' profit? For such a large volume the cost of doing business cannot be ignored. The break even point can be large in net $s
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If you read the Bloomberg article it mentions Amex was only getting 0.6%. Well below their normal rate. Not sure if you know this or not but I'll let you in on a little secret: CC companies make the vast majority of their money on interest charges.
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They don't make money on the transaction fees, these only help cover the real fees of communication hardware and software and the actual network usage. Wasn't there a study saying that the average Costco credit card holder has so and so much balance on his/her card? That's where Citi will be making money @ a flurry rate of 8-24% APR and I figure that's why they wanted this deal so badly. I still don't see how this could help us in the MS game...
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They don't make money on the transaction fees, these only help cover the real fees of communication hardware and software and the actual network usage. Wasn't there a study saying that the average Costco credit card holder has so and so much balance on his/her card? That's where Citi will be making money @ a flurry rate of 8-24% APR and I figure that's why they wanted this deal so badly. I still don't see how this could help us in the MS game...
Is Costco missing out the visa GC market?
Will we see the gift card rack near the cash registers at Costco?
Will they sell a 10 pack? or a 2K VGC?
Anything they do, may bring MSing to main street
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depends, Will Costco introduce with Citi a re-loadable card like BB or RC?
Is Costco missing out the visa GC market?
Will we see the gift card rack near the cash registers at Costco?
Will they sell a 10 pack? or a 2K VGC?
Anything they do, may bring MSing to main street
Is Costco missing out the visa GC market?
Will we see the gift card rack near the cash registers at Costco?
Will they sell a 10 pack? or a 2K VGC?
Anything they do, may bring MSing to main street
#9
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"Costco to Pay Almost Zero to Accept Credit Cards" MSing revolution?
The implication is more about returns. They probably won't card about issuing a refund to a devout card if they had no fees with the original purchase on CC. They have always been a nice place to return things.
#10
Join Date: Apr 2012
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with a low transaction fee deal with Costco, Citi basically views this as a marketing cost and hopes consumers will continue using their Citi cards at other, everyday places where they can recoup their regular transaction fees even for those folks who dont carry a balance.
if you were a bank: would you pay $200-500 to acquire new customers (incld affiliate commissions to CC bloggers etc.) or lower your transaction fees to acquire guaranteed customers, without even a need for a sign up bonus? Citi's motto here is clear, the opposite of out of sight out of mind (ahem AMEX.) they wanna be front row center in your wallet.
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#12
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depends, Will Costco introduce with Citi a re-loadable card like BB or RC?
Is Costco missing out the visa GC market?
Will we see the gift card rack near the cash registers at Costco?
Will they sell a 10 pack? or a 2K VGC?
Anything they do, may bring MSing to main street
Is Costco missing out the visa GC market?
Will we see the gift card rack near the cash registers at Costco?
Will they sell a 10 pack? or a 2K VGC?
Anything they do, may bring MSing to main street
#13
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all the time our customers ask us, 'how do you make money doing this?'
the answer is simple: Volume.
http://www.hulu.com/watch/2315
the answer is simple: Volume.
http://www.hulu.com/watch/2315
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They don't make money on the transaction fees, these only help cover the real fees of communication hardware and software and the actual network usage. Wasn't there a study saying that the average Costco credit card holder has so and so much balance on his/her card? That's where Citi will be making money @ a flurry rate of 8-24% APR and I figure that's why they wanted this deal so badly. I still don't see how this could help us in the MS game...