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Old Jan 25, 2015, 12:41 am
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American Express® is discontinuing the American Express for Target Prepaid Card program on March 21, 2016.

***Attention*** If you are new to the forum and thinking about AFT loads to accomodate your bonus or rewards spend, please be advised this method has taken a major hit effective first week of May, 2015, as mentioned in latter posts on this thread.****

This thread is a continuation of http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/manuf...ities-208.html

please be aware the Target breach cards are currently on the black market, as always be aware of activity on all accounts

Purchase in store. Each store seems to have just one lane that has them on display (unlike the AMEX GC which are at most lanes). Package is larger than other gift cards, silver and red.

Not available in all states. Search here for possible locations

Note: Unlike AMEX's restriction on BB/Serve/Redbird where one person can only hold one of those, you can have an AFT (2, actually) while holding a BB, Serve, or Redbird

Need DL to purchase.
Max 1 purchase per ss# per day--this means one person can actually have 2 AFT cards, which is why there is a $5000 total limit for 2 cards (see below).
Max initial load $500 + $3 load fee.

May reload temp card as soon as verification of identity is complete, may take 48 hours. You can use an ATM with a temp card as soon as you're able to view your temp card PIN online. If you're unable to view your PIN online, you won't be able to use an ATM until you have the permanent card, which takes about two weeks.

Many stores now limit reloading to the service desk, and no longer at cashiers. The card must be swiped at a cash terminal to reload, not scanned! Ask cashiers to try if they don't seem to recognize the card. Ask if loading at service desk is a policy, it might just be a knee-jerk response from cashiers that don't know about the card. I have been told that a few times, "You need to go to the Service Desk," it has never been true. Say please and thank you.

Limits & Fees
Loading
Codes as purchase on all cards.
Load fee $3
Max $1000 per card in 24 hour period.
Max $5000 total for both cards per 28 day rolling period.
May load any card *until* balance is $2500 for 28 day period (not *up to*)

System will allow a $1000 load on a card with a $2000 balance so long as you are under $5000 for all cards over 28 day period. See below for optimal load sequence, $15/$5k a month after 1st month and $15k in 65 days for new cards.

Unload via ATM
Max $400/card/day (resets 12am PST)
First ATM w/d per month per card is free, based on 1st of the month (not rolling)+ any ATM owner fee.
Additional ATM w/d fee $3 + ATM fee
Note that unlike Amex RB/BB, AFT is NOT in AllPoint network, thus NO surcharge-free ATM generally.

When asked 'from account' choose 'checking.'

Possibly helpful link (Surcharge Free ATMs):
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/manuf...-fee-atms.html

Unload by purchases
No fee. No cash back.

Additional information

Optimal load pattern for least number of $3 fees after first $500 load is $3k/$2k.
New accounts can load $15k in 65 days. 4 trips in a week for new cards, 3 in a week once a month after that.

Load always means load $1000. 28 day load total in parenthesis. 'Dropped' means that load is past the 28 day mark.

Day 1: Purchase card #1, load $500
Day 3: Purchase card #2, load $500; Load card #1 ($1500)
Day 5: load card #1 ($2500); load card #2 ($1500)
Day 7: load card #2 ($2500)
*********************************wait************
Day 29: ($2000)($2500) day 1 dropped
Day 31: ($1000)($2000) day 3 dropped
Day 32: load card #1 ($2000) ; load card #2 ($3000)
Day 33: ($1000)($2000) day 5 dropped
Day 34: load card #1 ($2000); load card #2 ($3000)
Day 35: ($2000) ($2000) day 7 dropped
Day 36: load card #1 ($3000), ($2000)
*********************************wait************
Day 61: load both cards, day 32 dropped
Day 63: load both cards
Day 65: load one card.

Repeat Loads waiting 29 days between loads, if you loaded both cards 29 days ago load both now, if you loaded one card, load one now. So next load date is 61+29= Day 90

FAQ

Q: Can I load with Visa/MC/Amex Gift Cards?
A: Visa and MC Gift cards with a PIN can be used. Amex gift cards no longer work.

Q: How about Target gift cards?
A: The register prompts not to allow Target gift cards. They may not be hard coded, though.

Q: Will I get 5% off if I load with a Target Red card?
A: No. Sorry, I wish.

Q: Can I load multiple cards in one transaction?
A: No. This died February 4, 2015 or shortly before.

Q:Is there a max number of payment swipes?
A: Yes. Maximum swipes for split payments is 7, though other users have reported being able to swipe at least 10 gift cards for payment without problems.

Q: What are the lowest possible fees with a fee-free ATM available?
A: For 2 cards, each loaded with $2.5K each over 2 months ($10K in total), you would pay $30 in loading fees (10 load fees of $3 each) and $63 in ATM fees (25 total withdrawals, with 1 free withdrawal per card each month, resulting in 21 ATM fees of $3 each).

Q: Where is my permanent card? I did not receive my permanent card. How do I receive my permanent card?
A: You do not need to register the temporary card online after purchase or create the online account to receive your permanent card. You should have received your permanent card within 7 days. Your temporary card will stop working after 30 days.

If you have not received your card, your application may have been declined. The personal information you registered may be incorrect, or Amex could not verify your identity.

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Official fund loading from T&C

You may load funds to your Cards using your Funding Source until the Available Funds on any Card purchased by you equals $2,500 and on all card purchased by you equals $5,000... Not more than $1,000 may be loaded to any Card purchased by you in a 24 hour period using your Funding Source, not more than $5,000 may be loaded to all Cards purchased by you in any 28-day period using your Funding Source.

IMPORTANT MESSAGE IF YOU LOADED YOUR PREPAID CARD AT TARGET DURING THE CHRISTMAS SECURITY BREACH: It is important to have AMEX reissue your cards (just phone the number on the card and ask for a new card). Thieves have the numbers and pins and can drain your account at any time. AMEX does not appear to be using software to block suspicious activity, so they can drain it all. If you loaded your prepaid card at Target between November 27 and December 15, 2013, you are at significant risk of having your money stolen (several reported cases in April and May).
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Old Mar 28, 2015, 12:49 pm
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Just received my permanent card. Been over 30 days since I bought the temp card.
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Old Mar 29, 2015, 12:42 am
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guys can we do 5k a month even with one card ? One of my relatives cannot get more than 1 card and I wanted to check if we can max out even with one card. TIA.
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Old Mar 29, 2015, 3:08 am
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guys can we do 5k a month even with one card ? One of my relatives cannot get more than 1 card and I wanted to check if we can max out even with one card. TIA.
Yes
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Old Mar 29, 2015, 7:01 am
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AmEx for Target (2015)

my local target has implemented a new policy re AFT. only the manager can load it. manager will not allow for VGC to be used to load. manager checks the name of the card to make sure it matches your AFT. then manager swipes the credit card himself so no chance to do a switcharoo. not a terrible new policy but makes it slightly more difficult to unload all these VGCs I just bought at s&s.
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Old Mar 29, 2015, 7:07 am
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Originally Posted by RyanNYNJ
my local target has implemented a new policy re AFT. only the manager can load it. manager will not allow for VGC to be used to load. manager checks the name of the card to make sure it matches your AFT. then manager swipes the credit card himself so no chance to do a switcharoo. not a terrible new policy but makes it slightly more difficult to unload all these VGCs I just bought at s&s.
Which one? Seems like NY area is getting difficult. Brooklyn, Queens.
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Old Mar 29, 2015, 11:02 am
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Real card finally showed up after almost 2 months.
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Old Mar 29, 2015, 11:37 am
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Every time when you load VGC it would cost 3 USD towards loading fees ,Correct ?. Is it still worth to load Staples 200 VGC to AFT ?
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Old Mar 29, 2015, 12:32 pm
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Originally Posted by janaganamana
Every time when you load VGC it would cost 3 USD towards loading fees ,Correct ?. Is it still worth to load Staples 200 VGC to AFT ?
And a minimum (depending on ATM fees) of $3 to unload per each $400, except for the first unload of the month which is free.
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Old Mar 29, 2015, 12:49 pm
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Originally Posted by janaganamana
Every time when you load VGC it would cost 3 USD towards loading fees ,Correct ?. Is it still worth to load Staples 200 VGC to AFT ?
If you are buying the staples VGC with a 5x card (Chase Ink), then I think loading to Target is viable. You'd still end up paying slightly under 1 cent/UR point, I think.

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Old Mar 29, 2015, 12:52 pm
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Originally Posted by janaganamana
Every time when you load VGC it would cost 3 USD towards loading fees ,Correct ?. Is it still worth to load Staples 200 VGC to AFT ?
Please read Q&As in Wiki. It is explained in details (number of allowed swipes, why to change the payment method to cc etc).
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Old Mar 29, 2015, 1:02 pm
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Please read Q&As in Wiki. It is explained in details (number of allowed swipes, why to change the payment method to cc etc).
Do you know if it automatically drains OneVanilla for the loaded amount or If I need to tell the cashier to split payment (500 on each card) ?
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Old Mar 29, 2015, 1:14 pm
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Do you know if it automatically drains OneVanilla for the loaded amount or If I need to tell the cashier to split payment (500 on each card) ?
Only CC can be drained automatically, ie. you swipe AGC with $375 balance and it automatically asks for $625 more ($1000 load).

I have never tried OVGC at Target, but you can either try to run it as a CC or if DC to ask the associate to manually enter a split tender (I have never tried that too).
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Old Mar 29, 2015, 1:48 pm
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Originally Posted by touristtrap
Originally Posted by coolblues
Do you know if it automatically drains OneVanilla for the loaded amount or If I need to tell the cashier to split payment (500 on each card) ?
Only CC can be drained automatically, ie. you swipe AGC with $375 balance and it automatically asks for $625 more ($1000 load).

I have never tried OVGC at Target, but you can either try to run it as a CC or if DC to ask the associate to manually enter a split tender (I have never tried that too).
It should work. It should give an option for credit or debit. Choose credit by pressing X.

I have used vanilla issued VGCs this way.
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Old Mar 29, 2015, 1:57 pm
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If I understand the Q&A and your post correctly

Tell Target cashier that you want to load 997 USD and swipe 5 VGC of 200 each(5*200=1000) , one after another . This will take care of 3 USD loading fee. Assuming system will ask the remaining balance after each swipe.

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Old Mar 29, 2015, 2:09 pm
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I'm assuming that as with Serve, one should not pay off the same card that they use to load the Amex with?
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