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Old Jan 10, 2015, 10:11 pm
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This is the Amex Blue thread for 2015. The previous 2013- 2014 megathread is here.
The 2016 thread is here.

Bonus category spending is now capped at $50,000 per year for new accounts. For now, this does not apply to existing cardholders, although Amex may continue to close accounts for excessive spend in bonus categories. There are reports that the new limits will apply to existing cardholders on the month containing your anniversary after March 1.

Oct 22, 2014 onwards: Many people getting cancellation email from Amex. As of June 11, 2015, shutdown reports continue.

Some who have been shutdown are reporting back that AMEX is declining new non-OBC card applications due to "unsatisfactory relationship". (However, see here for an example where reconsideration was successful.) It is unclear at this time the length/extent of this Adverse Action/Ban.

If AMEX sends you a cancellation it goes on your record as a cancellation by AMEX, not a cancellation by cardholder. While FICO score does not distinguish between closed by issuer and closed by cardholder, on manual review it may raise questions. However, issuers close cards for benign reasons as well (such as non-use) so unless several cards have been closed it probably won't cause a rejection by itself.

Excessive MS on this card may sever your ties with Amex.

Consider factors that may have led to these closures when sharing personal experiences.

If you still feel it is worth it:
Application Link: Copy & paste the following link into a incognito window in Chrome or InPrivate Browsing in IE, Private Session in Firefox. There have been reports of people who got the card in the last couple of months getting shut down because of the rush to spend the initial $6,500.

Do NOT post "Link isn't working" until you have tried it incognito/private browsing and it fails there.

Code:
https://www304.americanexpress.com/c...lue-cash/25330

Up to 5% Cash Back at U.S. supermarkets, U.S. gas stations & select U.S. drugstores (Everyday Purchases). Up to 1% Cash Back on other purchases. For your first $6,500¹ spend in a reward year², you will earn 1% on Everyday Purchases³ (5% after 6500⁴), and 0.5% on other purchases (then 1%).

0% intro APR on purchases and balance transfers for 15 months.

Eligible purchases do NOT include fees or interest charges, balance transfers, cash advances, purchases of travelers checks, purchases or reloading of prepaid cards, or purchases of other cash equivalents. Additional terms and restrictions apply. (Presume these T&Cs are standard and that all credit cards state this)

¹ First '$6,500' is spend on all purchases.

² 'Reward year' is the 12 billing periods in a row beginning with the one in which the anniversary of your Card Account occurs.

³ 'everyday purchases' refers to U.S. supermarkets, U.S. gas stations & select U.S. drugstores, not all purchases.

⁴ 5% kicks in immediately after hitting $6500.(mid-statement). In fact, it will even kick in mid-purchase and a portion of the purchase will credit at the higher rate.

* Reward dollars for the previous statement period show up a day or two after the current statement period closes.

* Most cash back redemptions will be applied to your statement within 2–3 days.

* Helpful post regarding moving CL between cards. Thanks lad2

* How to Visually Distinguish the Three Types of Blue Cash Cards:
Blue Cash (old) has a "<" character to the left of the word CASH
Blue Cash Everyday has a circle to the right of the word CASH, with the "Everyday" wording at the back.
Blue Cash Preferred has the word PREFERRED printed vertically on the extreme left side.

If you get the error message "You cannot be logged in. Please contact the number on the back of your card." when trying to redeem Reward Dollars online, it may be because you have too many closed accounts still showing in your scrolling images of cards. Delete the closed ones, then try to redeem again.
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Old Jan 1, 2015, 12:10 am
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Old Amex Blue (2015)

Originally Posted by k81689
"Available credit" is $1.00
Does this mean, I can go out and buy $1.00 stuff???
Yes, but do not try to do such at a gasoline station.
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Old Jan 1, 2015, 7:00 am
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Originally Posted by aGeist
I got shut down, applied for SPG same day, and got a CL near the amount of my OBC.
Seems YMMV. Got shut down 11/25 and just applied for SPG today but was rejected.

Ref: XXXXXX638USD

Dear XXXXX,

Thank you for applying for the Starwood Preferred Guest® Credit Card. We value your membership and appreciate your interest in another American Express Card. We're writing to let you know we cannot approve your application at this time because American Express cancelled your previous accounts.

If you have any questions, please call 1-866-929-5162 or write to us at the address above. You may qualify for a new Card in the future and are welcome to submit an application at a later date. You can also learn more about managing your credit at americanexpress.com/consumerresources.

Thank you for your Card Membership.

Sincerely,

Andrew Skinner
VP Global New Accounts
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Old Jan 1, 2015, 9:50 am
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Did you have a balance of $0.00 on the OBC when you applied ?
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Old Jan 1, 2015, 10:27 am
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Originally Posted by Alcibiades
Did you have a balance of $0.00 on the OBC when you applied ?
No, I kept my balance outstanding to take advantage of (a) slim chance I get some Reward Dollars which I did a few weeks ago and (b) my 0% APR til April 2015.

I'll try again after April.
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Old Jan 1, 2015, 11:01 am
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Originally Posted by aGeist
I got shut down, applied for SPG same day, and got a CL near the amount of my OBC.
Did you have a balance of $0.00 on the OBC when you applied ?
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Old Jan 1, 2015, 11:50 am
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Originally Posted by Songer5
Seems YMMV. Got shut down 11/25 and just applied for SPG today but was rejected.

Ref: XXXXXX638USD

Dear XXXXX,

Thank you for applying for the Starwood Preferred Guest® Credit Card. We value your membership and appreciate your interest in another American Express Card. We're writing to let you know we cannot approve your application at this time because American Express cancelled your previous accounts.

If you have any questions, please call 1-866-929-5162 or write to us at the address above. You may qualify for a new Card in the future and are welcome to submit an application at a later date. You can also learn more about managing your credit at americanexpress.com/consumerresources.

Thank you for your Card Membership.

Sincerely,

Andrew Skinner
VP Global New Accounts
You may want to to call the recon number (not necessarily the number in the letter if there is a different one) and give it a try, someone was successful few weeks ago in getting the app approved after getting that letter.

I did apply the same day my account was cancelled back in October and got the same letter and I assumed I was blacklisted and didn't bother in calling in,but there was no hard pull on my credit which means its an automatic generating letter response by AMEX for those accounts that got cancelled.

No harm in trying the recon route though.
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Old Jan 1, 2015, 11:57 am
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Originally Posted by OHijAAzi73
You may want to to call the recon number (not necessarily the number in the letter if there is a different one) and give it a try, someone was successful few weeks ago in getting the app approved after getting that letter.

I did apply the same day my account was cancelled back in October and got the same letter and I assumed I was blacklisted and didn't bother in calling in,but there was no hard pull on my credit which means its an automatic generating letter response by AMEX for those accounts that got cancelled.

No harm in trying the recon route though.
Yes, no HP suggests automatic blacklisting. But wonder why some are able to get new cards and others aren't. Doesn't seem to depend on type of card being requested.
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Old Jan 1, 2015, 12:41 pm
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I see folks on this thread are still poking the bear. I guess the diminished returns are worth it. Not sure that having all of your other accounts closed is worth it.
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Old Jan 1, 2015, 12:44 pm
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I see folks on this thread are still poking the bear. I guess the diminished returns are worth it. Not sure that having all of your other accounts closed is worth it.
Or having Amex send in their death squad to kill you and your family. Which has happened at about the same frequency as having all Amex accounts closed because of OBC closure.
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Old Jan 1, 2015, 1:49 pm
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Originally Posted by TheDapperDon
I see folks on this thread are still poking the bear. I guess the diminished returns are worth it. Not sure that having all of your other accounts closed is worth it.
Originally Posted by silver6054
Or having Amex send in their death squad to kill you and your family. Which has happened at about the same frequency as having all Amex accounts closed because of OBC closure.
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Old Jan 1, 2015, 4:46 pm
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Originally Posted by silver6054
Or having Amex send in their death squad to kill you and your family. Which has happened at about the same frequency as having all Amex accounts closed because of OBC closure.
Hence the phrase: poking the bear. Just because the bear hasn't eaten you yet, it doesn't mean that it's not coming.
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Old Jan 1, 2015, 5:01 pm
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Originally Posted by TheDapperDon
Hence the phrase: poking the bear. Just because the bear hasn't eaten you yet, it doesn't mean that it's not coming.
But, you are making up a scenario out of absolutely nothing. Just because Amex hasn't given me $1M in compensation for the mental distress caused by closure, doesn't mean it isn't coming.

Amex could have closed all the cards easily enough at time of closure, as do most other issuers. They chose not to, and not sure why this would change. They can allow or deny new cards, CLIs without closing everything.

We get that OBC is now useless for you. Others find some utility.
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Old Jan 1, 2015, 5:01 pm
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Originally Posted by TheDapperDon
Hence the phrase: poking the bear. Just because the bear hasn't eaten you yet, it doesn't mean that it's not coming.
Just out of curiosity, have you been eaten by the bear? Obviously you had been poking the bear (for a long time).
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Old Jan 1, 2015, 5:05 pm
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Originally Posted by silver6054
But, you are making up a scenario out of absolutely nothing. Just because Amex hasn't given me $1M in compensation for the mental distress caused by closure, doesn't mean it isn't coming.

Amex could have closed all the cards easily enough at time of closure, as do most other issuers. They chose not to, and not sure why this would change. They can allow or deny new cards, CLIs without closing everything.

We get that OBC is now useless for you. Others find some utility.
So, we don't have evidence that card issuers close all cards when they conduct AA? Amex won't do what other issuers have done? Why wouldn't this change if folks reapply and continue the same activities?
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Old Jan 1, 2015, 5:07 pm
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Those that follow the thread will understand the post and agenda behind it.
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