May 29, 2014, 7:43 pm
Last edit by: prasha11
Does not work anymore, is dead..... what is the point to report 'not working'?
As of 08/25/2014, Bancorp cards (Vanilla Visa, OneVanilla, etc.) are rarely working first try for debit transactions at Walmart. There is no apparent geographical basis. Basically, it's a crapshoot.
Do not agitate a cashier or store and lose the ability to make these transactions in the future. Multiple failed swipes or transactions will likely increase scrutiny. You do not want that. It is best to stop using these cards.
Vanilla VISA defaulting to credit
As of 5/29/2014, at most Walmart locations, all Vanilla VISA cards issued by The Bancorp Bank are automatically recognized as credit. Most Mastercard have required a workaround for some time. The MoneyCenter Express (ATM, kiosk, Kate) is not affected by this change.
As of 08/25/2014, Bancorp cards (Vanilla Visa, OneVanilla, etc.) are rarely working first try for debit transactions at Walmart. There is no apparent geographical basis. Basically, it's a crapshoot.
Do not agitate a cashier or store and lose the ability to make these transactions in the future. Multiple failed swipes or transactions will likely increase scrutiny. You do not want that. It is best to stop using these cards.
Vanilla VISA defaulting to credit
As of 5/29/2014, at most Walmart locations, all Vanilla VISA cards issued by The Bancorp Bank are automatically recognized as credit. Most Mastercard have required a workaround for some time. The MoneyCenter Express (ATM, kiosk, Kate) is not affected by this change.
MO Purchases using OV @ WM
Jun 19, 2014, 11:55 pm
#1516
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Jun 19, 2014, 11:58 pm
#1517
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Jun 20, 2014, 12:16 am
#1519
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Posts: 267
im so happy this happened. eventually after higc dies, jhp dies, cvs dies, walmart dies... whatevers next dies.. sometimes u people will finally learn or just be edged out by the consequences of your ignorant loudmouth actions. it wont' affect real ms'ers like me and my peeps who dont need any of the aforementioned commonpeople ms methods to thrive, but it would be nice to cut the fat and drop the dead weight thats known as the ft populace lol.
Jun 20, 2014, 12:32 am
#1520
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Jun 20, 2014, 1:16 am
#1523
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: SFO/DTW
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Jun 20, 2014, 5:29 am
#1525
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: NYC/CT
Programs: AA, UA, SPG
Posts: 81
To the guy that's stuck with 38k, that's a good chunk of change to be stuck with and indicates the laziness on your part not to liquidate as you go. If you didn't have the time to liquidate, you shouldn't be in the game. Understand this is a game of arbitrage and even though by definition it's a risk free investment by capitalizing on the imbalance of two different market rates, in MS, there's an exposure to risk by holding on to GC because the avenue to liquidating can be shut down by the popularity of arbitrage scenario.
With that said, I can't understand why you would hold on to that many GC's at once.
Jun 20, 2014, 5:36 am
#1526
Join Date: Oct 2013
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what is interesting to me is this:
Many of these people getting stuck with the OV...
I mean, had they been brought up in the MS world to think for themselves and go out and create and invent and test and try, they would by now likely have an answer as to how to best get rid of the GCs they are stuck with and they wouldn't be stuck! But no, many of them only latched on to the efforts of others, read the blogs, followed posts from other people and sat in their offices not going out into the field to toil and learn back when it should have mattered most.
I should say it serves them right but I am not that mean.
Still, we now see WHY it matters to know HOW to MS and think of MS, not just how to follow some circles and arrows and then buy a GC and blindly rely on just one method of burnation.
Many of these people getting stuck with the OV...
I mean, had they been brought up in the MS world to think for themselves and go out and create and invent and test and try, they would by now likely have an answer as to how to best get rid of the GCs they are stuck with and they wouldn't be stuck! But no, many of them only latched on to the efforts of others, read the blogs, followed posts from other people and sat in their offices not going out into the field to toil and learn back when it should have mattered most.
I should say it serves them right but I am not that mean.
Still, we now see WHY it matters to know HOW to MS and think of MS, not just how to follow some circles and arrows and then buy a GC and blindly rely on just one method of burnation.
Jun 20, 2014, 8:41 am
#1528
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 253
I'm in the process of liquidating my OVs elsewhere, and only have one left to go. I found an alternate Visa debit gift card product at a local grocery that will accept CC (and AGC). Fee is $1 higher, and they are not equipped to deal with high volume as well as CVS (e.g. I can only purchase one $500 card per transaction-- any more requires a manager override or a separate transaction), but they worked perfect at WM this morning.
Jun 20, 2014, 8:49 am
#1529
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 224
I am new to certain forms of MS but not to beating systems. As a professional arbitrageur - be it markets, regulations, or "games of chance" - I've witnessed many edges come and go. The predictable pattern of discovery, scale, notoriety, crowding, and "efficiency" (edge disappears or becomes uneconomic) is playing itself out in MS.
Spending far too much time RTFF I've seen many ill conceived accusations and laughable assertions. Today's actions by Wally World were not only predictable but telegraphed. I'm not going to show all my cards but will provide a link that is very informative with regard to today's action and what will be happening in the near future:
http://www.fool.com/investing/genera...collapsed.aspx
I would add that those that are apolitical may consider raising their voices. Apathy and silence are two great ingredients to turn a sovereign individual into an indentured and poverty-stricken man. The Dept. of the Treasury (IRS) wants to make cash a rarity and with it anonymity and liberty. Time to get educated and involved.
Lastly I would enjoy having a discussion with sophisticated players of size (via PM) and can provide certain bona fides as there may be one big score left in MS.
Spending far too much time RTFF I've seen many ill conceived accusations and laughable assertions. Today's actions by Wally World were not only predictable but telegraphed. I'm not going to show all my cards but will provide a link that is very informative with regard to today's action and what will be happening in the near future:
http://www.fool.com/investing/genera...collapsed.aspx
I would add that those that are apolitical may consider raising their voices. Apathy and silence are two great ingredients to turn a sovereign individual into an indentured and poverty-stricken man. The Dept. of the Treasury (IRS) wants to make cash a rarity and with it anonymity and liberty. Time to get educated and involved.
Lastly I would enjoy having a discussion with sophisticated players of size (via PM) and can provide certain bona fides as there may be one big score left in MS.
Last edited by traveler9020; Jun 20, 2014 at 12:22 pm Reason: typo
Jun 20, 2014, 9:10 am
#1530
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: NYC
Posts: 5,025
I am new to certain forms of MS but not to beating systems. As a professional arbitrageur - be it markets, regulations, or "games of chance" - I've witnessed many edges come and go. The predictable pattern of discovery, scale, notoriety, crowding, and "efficiency" (edge disappears or becomes uneconomic) is playing itself out in MS.
Spending far too much time RTFF I've seen many ill conceived accusations and laughable assertions. Today's actions by Wally World were not only predictable but telegraphed. I'm not going to show all my cards but will provide a link that is very informative with regard to today's action and what will be happening in the near future:
http://www.fool.com/investing/genera...collapsed.aspx
Spending far too much time RTFF I've seen many ill conceived accusations and laughable assertions. Today's actions by Wally World were not only predictable but telegraphed. I'm not going to show all my cards but will provide a link that is very informative with regard to today's action and what will be happening in the near future:
http://www.fool.com/investing/genera...collapsed.aspx
Wonder why it seems only Walmart is affected so far.