prasha11

I disagree with the whole premise. 'Posting the deal does not ensures it gets killed.' If u have numerous examples, those are your conclusions I am aware of few posters angry and weeping about it.

(When u throw a bone to a dog, the dog does not know why u were so generous, but u do know...)

These forums has been used by corporations for promoting and advertising the marketing plans, the most effective at a least cost.

The deals die only when the program originator goals/targets are accomplished. There have been exceptions, (errors/bugs that are fixed within 24 hours...)

Posting the deal here helps u in understanding, assurance and confidence of proper executions.

Its a win-win.

tom911

That's one of the reasons we have moderators. If someone is attacked in public or via PM, they can deal with that. Report the post to a moderator or forward the PM to a moderator so they can take action.

FlightNurse

I completely disagree with this... If this was the case I and others wouldn't have spend HOURS answering people questions and giving inside tips, however, the forum is being run over by people who are too damn lazy to read a thread and LEARN about the game, they just want the answer spoon feed to them, it becomes too much to log in and find 15 questions, when the answers are either in the wiki or in the thread...

tom911

And your solution to that is? Posters have been complaining about that since this thread started in December. Can't say I've noticed anyone come up with a grand idea to make those new posters stop posting. One member wanted them to sign an affadavit that they had read the wiki before being able to post. That didn't seem to take off. Do you have any new ideas that haven't been in play already, either here or on the Talk Board thread?

AlohaDaveKennedy

Like the mint deal?

vagrants

Mods to delete commonly asked questions? That's all I can come up with.

Yes, I have new ideas & working on it. No, not sharing. I've been helping enough with other things. That's not good enough?

prasha11

u not sharing ideas is your loss. You will not get feed back, verification and validation, simplification and optimization ideas, the evolution and next alternatives of the concepts for enhancement.

Eventually, some one will do it and will make u angry!

The forum will continue with or without your contribution.

vagrants

Yes, my loss. I'm fine with it. I don't need anybody's feedback, verification & validation (since I can do it already, no reason for anybody else to verify what I can do). It's already simple as it is. I'll spend "my" time optimizing it if necessary. Thanks for the advice.

I wasn't angry when somebody posted HIGC deal here long time ago. But, I might get angry. It'll depend on the mood.

I honestly don't care if the forum will continue with or without me. It's just a tool to me as with other MS instruments.

prasha11

What does this 'tool' do for u?

FlightNurse

Tom, I have stated my position on this many times, Limit access to new people allow them to read the threads but no posting for at least a 100 posting. Something has to change, I stop posting on the MS thread for this very reason....

cmcdermott

my dear friend, mint deal still alive and well. just need to be creative with finding a way to be profitable with a $5 shipping flat rate fee. can you use your imagination?

tom911

Does something really have to change, though? The forum looks as busy as ever and others will come along to direct newbies. You may not enjoy the forum as it is now, but it seems to be working. I didn't enjoy one of the snarkier airline forums here for a while, but it didn't stop me from posting and it was cleaned up eventually. I had to tune out a lot of posters that just drove me crazy (and they were not newbies).

The Talk Board has clearly indicated they don't have an interest in setting up access restrictions for this forum while you want some type of access restriction in place. They did not place a motion on the table for a vote. I think you just need to move on and look at what you can impact, such as moderation policies. We're not allowed to discuss those in public, but one MS moderator did indicate he was open to feedback. It's the very last post on the Talk Board thread. LINK

You'll note that four times as many members posted in this thread compared to the Talk Board thread. The focus of the Talk Board thread seemed to be snarky posters and not new members who post questions that have been asked before. Maybe the Talk Board would have been more interested if more members from this forum asked for restrictions and focused on locking out newbies for a certain amount of days or posts. There just wasn't enough support for those restrictions as a method to lock out new members from posting.

silver6054

I believe that Tom911's reference to new ideas (since he referenced the Talkboard thread) was ideas for cleaning up the forum, not new ideas for MS.

vagrants

Most of the time, killing time, not much more.

vagrants

OK, my brain is screwed up. Thanks for clearing it up!