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Old Jan 22, 2009, 11:15 pm
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Originally Posted by Musken
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I've received a call today from the GM, the hotel is having issues re: landscaping and installation of some furniture due to weather issues and will not open until after my scheduled stay. We are jointly working out alternate accommodations, which might permit me to make a cursory inspection of the property and report back.
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Old Jan 22, 2009, 11:43 pm
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they need to adjust their website - its showing avail from feb 6.

http://www.hoteliermiddleeast.com/ar...rties_in_2009/
Jan 8, 2009
...The luxury hotel brand is boosting Four Seasons’ presence across Asia Pacific in 2009, with properties set to open in Pudong, Hangzhou and a resort in the Seychelles.

...In the current economic downturn there has been speculation by hoteliers that planned developments may be put on hold, but vice president sales and marketing for Europe, Middle East and Africa, David Crowl, said this wouldn’t be the case with Four Seasons brand.

“The [financial] crisis hasn’t hit us yet, but as it relates to Four Seasons then our investors look at the investments in the long term,” he said.

“All the projects we have in the pipeline are still active and moving forward and will continue to do so.

“It would be foolish of me to say things are going to be as strong as in a bull market, but we’re committed to our long-term development and investment plan.”

The brand opened eight hotels in 2008, including the Four Seasons Hotel Macao and the Bora Bora Resort.
hmm... "no suspensions" not "no delays."

new RC hotels are certainly not coming along.

2009 - dove mountain, lake tahoe, phulay bay
2011 - cabo

delays/suspensions >
molasses reef, cap cana, rancho mirage, paradise valley, cairo, pudong, macau, mexico city, hong kong, toronto, los angeles, abu dhabi, bangalore, st lucia, rose island, dubai

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Old Jan 23, 2009, 7:10 am
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Originally Posted by juuceman
I've received a call today from the GM, the hotel is having issues re: landscaping and installation of some furniture due to weather issues and will not open until after my scheduled stay. We are jointly working out alternate accommodations, which might permit me to make a cursory inspection of the property and report back.
Unfortunately, I've heard that the issues may be deeper than this - for example the spa is not nearly completed yet. I have a reservation in June and my contact at FS corporate (who does NOT work at the resort) says that they may not even be up and running by then. I'll report back when I hear more.
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Old Jan 23, 2009, 11:15 am
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I am informed that the Four Seasons Seychelles is currently scheduled to open on February 6.

Given the issues surrounding the delayed opening, the Four Seasons has maintained a very high level of contact directly with myself and my agent, and made alternate arrangement for our stay which are highly appropriate.
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Old Jan 24, 2009, 7:54 am
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I am informed that the Four Seasons Seychelles is currently scheduled to open on February 6.
In addition, I have been informed by the GM that all construction will be complete (well, other than some residence construction) and all facilities functional by Easter.

juuceman - I hope you get a chance to tour the place even though I'm sorry you won't stay there. I'm glad the situation was handled well.
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Old Mar 24, 2009, 7:17 pm
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Originally Posted by Kagehitokiri
Jan 8, 2009
All the projects we have in the pipeline are still active and moving forward and will continue to do so.
so much for that.

FS barbados construction suspended since feb 19.

http://www.barbadosadvocate.com/toda...0090318_P3.jpg
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Old Mar 24, 2009, 7:32 pm
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Originally Posted by Kagehitokiri
so much for that.

FS barbados construction suspended since feb 19.

http://www.barbadosadvocate.com/toda...0090318_P3.jpg
Kage, there has been a fair bit of coverage of this in the british press because of the involvement of Michael Pemberton. I don't think this resort is going to happen anytime soon.
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Old Mar 24, 2009, 7:36 pm
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some of the coverage mentioned by paul2
http://barbadoswestcoast.blogspot.co...dos-is-in.html

2nd NY property is also suspended
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/11499516-post7.html

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Old May 13, 2009, 9:15 pm
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http://www.caribdaily.com/article/15...otel-decision/

'Brickman Holdings 3' has lodged an appeal against the Development Applications Board's refusal of planning permission for the Four Seasons Hotel in Paget.

The plans include a 150-room hotel, 60 fractional ownership villas, 20 residential units, a spa, fitness centre, tennis courts, pools and conference centre to be located at Coral Beach and Horizons. Refusing the 'in principle' planning application last month, the DAB said the development would defy the zoning of Draft Bermuda Plan 2008

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Old Jun 7, 2009, 10:01 am
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whatever happened with this?

http://www.kingdomhotels.com/news_1mar07.html
...march 1 2007...KHI intends to expand the resort by adding an additional 20 keys and developing 14 luxury villas that will be sold as Four Seasons Residences. The expansion and development is expected to cost US$35 million and be completed in Q4 2008...
thats a good 6 months before subprimes. did construction just happen to be delayed initially, then they suspended it because of economy? i dont recall anyone mentioning construction in reports since then.

also interesting >
http://www.kingdomhotels.com/operati...ml#fsnileplaza
The hotel also comprises 59 apartments and 72 Plaza Suites, of which some may be entered into the hotel rental pool in the future.
update on >
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...ld-resort.html
hotel to open in 2012. project completion over 8-10 years.

first rendering of hotel
http://www.laughingplace.com/News-ID10031070.asp

(pre lehman >)
some plans shown here indicate scale on par with hualalai. lots of residences.
http://allthingsdiz.blogspot.com/200...ns-update.html

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...en-venice.html

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Old Jun 8, 2009, 9:34 am
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[QUOTE=Kagehitokiri;11868464]whatever happened with this?

http://www.kingdomhotels.com/news_1mar07.html

thats a good 6 months before subprimes. did construction just happen to be delayed initially, then they suspended it because of economy? i dont recall anyone mentioning construction in reports since then.

I was at the resort when this was announced. Kingdom had just secured the tract of land which curves around the headland, beyond the existing Royal Villas. The idea was to build more Royal Villas. This was in 2007 - only 2 years ago. Let us remember how long it takes for hotels/additions/refurbishments to happen! No plans at that stage (2007) had been drawn up, so an architect/designer would have to be briefed and employed. Would Al Waleed use Bill Bensley again, who was originally employed by the Malaysian Airline owner? Probably not - in which case, you have to find the right architect/designer to complete the project in a sympathetic way. Then you have to submit planning permission, check out feasibility etc. Then you have to install utilities...and so on and so on. Two years is nothing! Equally, even Kingdom is cutting back these days, so strategic delays are not unheard of. I am sure it will happen - eventually.
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Old Jun 13, 2009, 8:22 am
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Four Seasons Vienna

Four Seasons is reported to operate a hotel & residences in the former commercial court building (Riemergasse 7, 1010 Vienna) in Vienna's city center. Scheduled to open in 2012.

Source: Die Presse (in german only)
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Four Seasons Aleppo, Syria

Word has it that land has been secured in Aleppo Syria to build a Four Seasons on the current grounds of the exposition grounds, to the north of downtown.
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Old Jun 13, 2009, 2:11 pm
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This would be a fantastic addition to the European collection!!

Originally Posted by vienna-resident
Four Seasons is reported to operate a hotel & residences in the former commercial court building (Riemergasse 7, 1010 Vienna) in Vienna's city center. Scheduled to open in 2012.

Source: Die Presse (in german only)
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Old Jun 14, 2009, 4:52 am
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Originally Posted by vienna-resident
Four Seasons is reported to operate a hotel & residences in the former commercial court building (Riemergasse 7, 1010 Vienna) in Vienna's city center. Scheduled to open in 2012.

Source: Die Presse (in german only)
This is true - I heard it from a Four Seasons Exec recently. Lovely historic building, apparently.

I am surprised about Aleppo. Al Waleed sold his interest in the Damascus Four Seasons and I heard that there had been a fair amount of interference from Syrian government, which was making operations difficult. Cannot imagine Four Seasons doing a second hotel with government ownership, but you never know.
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