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Old Dec 1, 2012, 2:35 am
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Originally Posted by MSPeconomist
I don't think it's necessary to pay extra for a VIP immigration and customs escort at SIN as that airport is extremely efficient and pleasant. Why spend money to by-pass a nonexistent line?
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Old Dec 1, 2012, 3:12 am
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Really? Compared to the Shangri-La valley wing?
Different strokes for different folks. Glad you like the Shangri-La valley wing though.
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Old Dec 1, 2012, 6:50 am
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Different strokes for different folks. Glad you like the Shangri-La valley wing though.
Agreed- always interested in hearing opinions and testing out new places. I am even tempted to go back to the Grand Hyatt as I have heard many good things about the club level recently for example.
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Really? Compared to the Shangri-La valley wing?
Not been there. I'll try that the next time. My stays in Singapore:

FS Singapore
St. Regis
Raffles
Fullerton Bay

The FS was, at best, a dark prison. Early/late checkout was forbidden and the front desk belittled me for bothering to ask. A large rat would having trouble getting a workout in the pool.

Raffles had the meanest staff I have ever seen in a 5* hotel, but a wonderful pool. These people were openly snarling. In addition, Raffles is choked with a clown's posse of tourists. It reminded me of a upscale version of Circus Circus in Vegas with adults rather than children jamming every square inch.

Fullerton Bay had massive unreported construction that included pneumatic equipment not 30 ft. from my original room. The place had poor food and poor service in all the restaurants. My stay was made all the more miserable when the air conditioning broke for the entire building. This lasted 3 of my 5 days. Singapore can be troublesome w/o air conditioning. On the upside my suite had two (!) fireplaces in the room to warm me up on those bitterly cold winter nights in Singapore. Also, the bay suites get the disco noise from the club in front of the Marina Bay Sands. The disco closes at 5 am or so in case you're curious.

I rather enjoyed the stay at the St Regis in comparison to the other three hotels, although I remember having trouble with the wireless.

PS -- the most I have ever waited in line at customs is 2 minutes or so. I dislike Singapore, but it is a well run and clean place. Make sure to hide your chewing gum.

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Old Dec 1, 2012, 1:30 pm
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Originally Posted by MSPeconomist
I don't think it's necessary to pay extra for a VIP immigration and customs escort at SIN as that airport is extremely efficient and pleasant. Why spend money to by-pass a nonexistent line?
+2. This might save you 2-3 minutes at most.
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Old Dec 1, 2012, 2:27 pm
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Originally Posted by mike_la_jolla
I rather enjoyed the stay at the St Regis in comparison to the other three hotels, although I remember having trouble with the wireless.
If you can get a St Regis Suite (used to be called the Executive Suite) go for it.

It does seem everyone agrees that going through Immigration in SIN is a speedy process anyway.
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Old Dec 1, 2012, 5:59 pm
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Originally Posted by mike_la_jolla
Raffles had the meanest staff I have ever seen in a 5* hotel, but a wonderful pool. These people were openly snarling. In addition, Raffles is choked with clown's posse of tourists. It reminded me of a upscale version of Circus Circus in Vegas with adults rather than children jamming every square inch.

PS -- the most I have ever waited in line at customs is 2 minutes or so. I dislike Singapore, but it is a well run and clean place. Make sure to hide your chewing gum.
The best ever description of Raffles - a huge missed opportunity and a place to avoid at all costs.

Your P.S. indicates that this could be a "Singapore thing" - perhaps the result of the run behind money and the lack of democracy . Sad.
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Old Dec 2, 2012, 3:38 pm
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The best ever description of Raffles - a huge missed opportunity and a place to avoid at all costs.

Your P.S. indicates that this could be a "Singapore thing" - perhaps the result of the run behind money and the lack of democracy . Sad.
Yes, a great pity - service has been downhill since Singapore sold out to ' others ' - a disgrace for an iconic grand dame.
Has almost been a ritual to fly in & have a drink by the CHRISTmas tree.. Sort of miss doing it- see about this year. Chat with regular bar tender

Chewing gum is ok - just as long you do not peddle it ( is unavailable for sale or purchase).
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Old Dec 3, 2012, 12:48 am
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...Chewing gum is ok - just as long you do not peddle it ( is unavailable for sale or purchase).
That's what we thought, but had no problem buying Nicotine Gum in shops
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Old Dec 3, 2012, 5:43 am
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Originally Posted by mike_la_jolla

The FS was, at best, a dark prison. Early/late checkout was forbidden and the front desk belittled me for bothering to ask. A large rat would having trouble getting a workout in the pool.
Dark prison? Kind of exaggerating too much don't you think? But yes, the lighting can be better, but some people believe it or not do think that dark places are more cozy and romantic. I did get a late check-out during my stay though I have to fight / argue and pull my weight in order to get it.

Originally Posted by mike_la_jolla
Raffles had the meanest staff I have ever seen in a 5* hotel, but a wonderful pool. These people were openly snarling. In addition, Raffles is choked with a clown's posse of tourists. It reminded me of a upscale version of Circus Circus in Vegas with adults rather than children jamming every square inch.
I cannot comprehend the fascination some people have over this place. I guess I don't belong to that generation. I don't even bother to try. It's a well known tourist trap for the locals.

Originally Posted by mike_la_jolla
I rather enjoyed the stay at the St Regis in comparison to the other three hotels, although I remember having trouble with the wireless.
St Regis is pretty inconsistent for me. Excellent during my first stay ( which should be bec I splurged on a top-end suite ), so-so in my 2nd, awful in the 3rd. Never went back again.

Perhaps in your next stay, you can try the RC which I think is the best of the bunch currently or the least annoying depend on your perspective. But as many forum members have said so, there are no truely world-class luxury hotel in Singapore, yet.
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Old Dec 3, 2012, 5:46 am
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Yes, a great pity - service has been downhill since Singapore sold out to ' others ' - a disgrace for an iconic grand dame.
Has almost been a ritual to fly in & have a drink by the CHRISTmas tree.. Sort of miss doing it- see about this year. Chat with regular bar tender

Chewing gum is ok - just as long you do not peddle it ( is unavailable for sale or purchase).
I don't think there is ever a strong service culture in Singapore to begin with. Efficiency, yes. Service??? Nope... unless you are willing to pay thru the nose. One reason is due to the high turn over of staff in the hospitality industry.
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Old Dec 3, 2012, 9:34 am
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Originally Posted by BENLEE
I don't think there is ever a strong service culture in Singapore to begin with.
Singapore Airlines?
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Old Dec 3, 2012, 2:28 pm
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Originally Posted by Kettering Northants QC
That's what we thought, but had no problem buying Nicotine Gum in shops
Originally Posted by BENLEE
I don't think there is ever a strong service culture in Singapore to begin with. Efficiency, yes. Service??? Nope... unless you are willing to pay thru the nose. One reason is due to the high turn over of staff in the hospitality industry.
Originally Posted by francophile
Singapore Airlines?
Seems gum ok if for ' medical ' reasons

Service culture not ' natural ' if compared to surrounding countries - relatively decent for a city state

SQ is a good example of what can be achieved
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Old Dec 4, 2012, 5:59 am
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Originally Posted by FlyerEC

SQ is a good example of what can be achieved
Well, that kinda proof my point. SQ is premium pricing.
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Old Dec 4, 2012, 9:02 am
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Originally Posted by MSPeconomist
I don't think it's necessary to pay extra for a VIP immigration and customs escort at SIN as that airport is extremely efficient and pleasant. Why spend money to by-pass a nonexistent line?
We really enjoyed being picked up at the plane and taken by cart (through a huge airport.) It was also nice to not have to wait to pick up your bags. They take your luggage tags and deposit you in a nicely appointed VIP lounge, where you just wait till everything is ready, get in a car and go to your hotel. Surely, not for everyone... but it was the most seamless airport experience i've had.
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