Jun 5, 2014, 1:13 pm
Last edit by: oliver2002
Welcome to the FRA connection thread! If you are new to FRA or this thread, please read the first post where you will find a summary of all pertinent information before asking more specific questions.
Current MCT in FRA connecting to/from LH:
Current MCT in FRA connecting to/from LH:
Code:
DMLH/FRA/LH/17MAY22 FRA LH TO LH FRA-FRA FROM - TO D/D D/I I/D I/I CC FLTN-FLTR ORGN EQP TM CS-CC FLTN-FLTR DEST EQP TM CS HHMM HHMM HHMM HHMM LH BUS - ---- ---- ---- 0100 LH - TRN 0100 0100 0100 0100 LH BR - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH CA - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH CN - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH EG - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH ET - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH IN - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH JP - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH QA - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH SG - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH TH - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH US - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH ZA - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH - US ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH KJR - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH KWQ - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH QDU - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH QKL - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH QKU - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH ZWS - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH KLT BUS - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH SDA BUS - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH 0400-0799 - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH Y- TRN 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH KJR Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH KWQ Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH QDU Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH QKL Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH QKU Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH ZWS Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH KLT BUS Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH SDA BUS Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH CA- ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH AC- TRN ---- ---- ---- 0200 LH PL LO- ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH PL LO- SC ---- ---- ---- 0100 TRN -LH ---- 0100 0100 0100 -LH BR ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH CA ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH CN ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH EG ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH ET ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH IN ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH JP ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH QA ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH SG ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH TH ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH US ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH ZA ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH TLV ---- 0100 ---- 0100 BUS -LH TLV ---- 0200 ---- 0200 TRN -LH TLV ---- 0200 ---- 0200 TRS -LH TLV ---- 0200 ---- 0200 -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0100 ---- 0100 BUS -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0115 ---- 0115 -LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0100 0100 0100 0100 LH -LH BUS 0100 0100 0100 0100 LH TRN -LH BUS INV INV INV INV LH TRS -LH BUS INV INV INV INV LH BUS -LH TRN INV INV INV INV LH BUS -LH TRS INV INV INV INV LH SC BUS -LH ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH SC TRN -LH ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH SC TRS -LH ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH -LH SC BUS ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH -LH SC TRN ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH -LH SC TRS ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH SC TRN -LH SC TRN INV INV INV INV LH SC TRS -LH SC TRN INV INV INV INV LH SC TRN -LH SC TRS INV INV INV INV LH SC TRS -LH SC TRS INV INV INV INV LH XER BUS -LH SC ---- ---- ---- 0100 LH -LH TLV ---- ---- ---- 0100 LH 0400-0799 -LH BUS ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH 0400-0799 -LH TRN ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH 0400-0799 -LH TRS ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH BUS -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH TRN -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH TRS -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH SC -LH 0400-0799 SG ---- 0045 ---- 0045 LH SC -LH 0400-0799 US ---- 0045 ---- 0045 LH SC -LH 0400-0799 ZA ---- 0045 ---- 0045 LH SC TRS -LH 0400-0799 US ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH BUS -LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 BUS ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRN ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRS ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH Y-LH BUS ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH AC-LH TRN ---- ---- 0200 ---- LH US UA-LH ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH UA-LH BY ---- ---- ---- INV LH EW-LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 BUS Y ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRN Y ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRS Y ---- ---- 0100 ---- -LH AC ---- ---- ---- 0100 -LH AI ---- 0115 ---- 0115 -LH XQ ---- 0130 ---- 0130 -LH PL LO ---- 0100 ---- ---- -LH BR OS ---- 0100 ---- ---- SC -LH PL LO ---- ---- ---- 0100 LH -LH UA ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH -LH XQ ---- 0130 ---- 0130 LH BUS -LH AC ---- ---- ---- 0200 LH TRN -LH AC ---- 0200 ---- 0200 LH TRN -LH UA ---- 0130 ---- ---- LH BY -LH UA ---- ---- ---- INV LH QDU -LH US UA ---- 0130 ---- ---- LH QKL -LH US UA ---- 0130 ---- ---- LH ZWS -LH US UA ---- 0130 ---- ---- LH LG-LH AC ---- ---- ---- 0200 LH AC-LH LG ---- ---- ---- 0200 LH AC-LH AT OS ---- ---- ---- 0100
Connecting in Frankfurt [FRA] 2009-2023 (retired)
Aug 3, 2017, 2:01 am
#4171
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There's a lot of helpful info here, but could someone please answer my specific question so that I don't have to search through 200+ pages:
I am traveling ARN - FRA (SAS); FRA - SFO (UA)
So I know I am arriving/leaving from terminal 1. Since my first segment is Schengen to Schengen, I am guessing there is no passport control upon arrival. Am I correct?
My concern is my US connection. Would I have to go to another zone? Is it all air-side? Re-clear security? Go through departure passport control?
Would 1-1/2 hours generally be enough?
Thanks in advance!
I am traveling ARN - FRA (SAS); FRA - SFO (UA)
So I know I am arriving/leaving from terminal 1. Since my first segment is Schengen to Schengen, I am guessing there is no passport control upon arrival. Am I correct?
My concern is my US connection. Would I have to go to another zone? Is it all air-side? Re-clear security? Go through departure passport control?
Would 1-1/2 hours generally be enough?
Thanks in advance!
Z gates are immediately above A gates. You can stay airside and don't have to go through security but you do go through passport control. One and a half hours should be enough for this connection.
Aug 3, 2017, 4:17 pm
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You don't go through passport control "on arrival" but you do go through exit passport control during the transfer. SAS flights from ARN will arrive at an A gate or an A bus gate. UA flights to SFO depart from a Z gate.
Z gates are immediately above A gates. You can stay airside and don't have to go through security but you do go through passport control. One and a half hours should be enough for this connection.
Z gates are immediately above A gates. You can stay airside and don't have to go through security but you do go through passport control. One and a half hours should be enough for this connection.
Aug 6, 2017, 12:19 pm
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Singapore is not a 'clean' country. The only One Stop Security countries outside the EU as far as I know are the US and Canada. Most arrivals from the US use Z gates but flights from Canada usually arrive in B (as do most arrivals from the UK and Ireland) and are subject to transfer security.
Arrivals in Z at non-clean arrival gates are designated as e.g. Z62A.
https://ec.europa.eu/transport/modes...-policy/oss_en
Arrivals in Z at non-clean arrival gates are designated as e.g. Z62A.
https://ec.europa.eu/transport/modes...-policy/oss_en
Aug 10, 2017, 12:30 pm
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Lufthansa Connection q's
Hi Folks,
i will be flying IAH-FRA-BOM in business class with USA passport. IAH-FRA 441 lands at Z gates most likely 66 & FRA -BOM -LH 756 leaves from C gates most likely 14/15.
how do i go about getting from Z to C & which lounge would u recommend.
i will be flying IAH-FRA-BOM in business class with USA passport. IAH-FRA 441 lands at Z gates most likely 66 & FRA -BOM -LH 756 leaves from C gates most likely 14/15.
how do i go about getting from Z to C & which lounge would u recommend.
Aug 10, 2017, 12:34 pm
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Aug 10, 2017, 12:50 pm
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Actually I was looking at this website for a list of One Stop Security countries which for some reason doesn't mention Norway, Iceland or Switzerland.
Aug 10, 2017, 1:12 pm
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If you don't mind going through passport control twice you can also visit the Welcome Lounge which is landside. It has more showers than any other lounge and food is supposed to be on a par with Senator Lounges. If you are not *G and only have access to Business Lounges you might like to consider a visit to the Welcome Lounge.
Aug 10, 2017, 3:35 pm
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On arrival in Z take the Skyline train to C and go through security. It used to be a long walk from the stop for B/C to C gates but a new Skyline platform for C opened recently. Unfortunately there is no way you can avoid clearing security. Lounges in Z are newer and probably nicer than those in C (which I have not visited for a long time). Since you have plenty of time you might like to visit a lounge in Z first, before moving to C.
If you don't mind going through passport control twice you can also visit the Welcome Lounge which is landside. It has more showers than any other lounge and food is supposed to be on a par with Senator Lounges. If you are not *G and only have access to Business Lounges you might like to consider a visit to the Welcome Lounge.
If you don't mind going through passport control twice you can also visit the Welcome Lounge which is landside. It has more showers than any other lounge and food is supposed to be on a par with Senator Lounges. If you are not *G and only have access to Business Lounges you might like to consider a visit to the Welcome Lounge.
Thank you NewbieRunner
One more q,s today I see that 441 is scheduled for gate C15A where is that gate
Aug 10, 2017, 3:46 pm
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Passengers arriving from the US should be "clean" for security purposes but unfortunately the layout of the airport means any passengers arriving in non-Schengen B or C cannot enter the terminal behind security.
Most flights from the US arrive in Z and their arrival gates appear on LH's flight status page as Z20, Z62, etc. Arrivals from most other non-Schengen countries appear as Z62A, Z69A, B28A, etc.
Aug 10, 2017, 3:55 pm
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Gate C15A is the same gate as C15. Because arriving passengers and departing passengers (who have been through security) must be separated, arrival gates have A added to the gate number. After deplaning passengers usually take an escalator to the arrival level.
Passengers arriving from the US should be "clean" for security purposes but unfortunately the layout of the airport means any passengers arriving in non-Schengen B or C cannot enter the terminal behind security.
Most flights from the US arrive in Z and their arrival gates appear on LH's flight status page as Z20, Z62, etc. Arrivals from most other non-Schengen countries appear as Z62A, Z69A, B28A, etc.
Passengers arriving from the US should be "clean" for security purposes but unfortunately the layout of the airport means any passengers arriving in non-Schengen B or C cannot enter the terminal behind security.
Most flights from the US arrive in Z and their arrival gates appear on LH's flight status page as Z20, Z62, etc. Arrivals from most other non-Schengen countries appear as Z62A, Z69A, B28A, etc.
Aug 10, 2017, 4:17 pm
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Aug 13, 2017, 12:48 pm
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Hello. Great thread but having tried to read through it I find myself a little confused so please forgive this simple Englishman if I ask something obvious 
I am flying LHR-FRA-IAD next month in F. This is my first Lufthansa flight and first time connecting at FRA. The scheduled connection time is just 70 minutes. I am an EU passport holder.
If I have read correctly I will arrive at Term B and depart from Term A. Should I make my own way from Term B to Term A? Or should I go to the First Class lounge in Term B and get advice there/a possible car transfer?
Many thanks.
I am flying LHR-FRA-IAD next month in F. This is my first Lufthansa flight and first time connecting at FRA. The scheduled connection time is just 70 minutes. I am an EU passport holder.
If I have read correctly I will arrive at Term B and depart from Term A. Should I make my own way from Term B to Term A? Or should I go to the First Class lounge in Term B and get advice there/a possible car transfer?
Many thanks.
Aug 13, 2017, 1:35 pm
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Hello. Great thread but having tried to read through it I find myself a little confused so please forgive this simple Englishman if I ask something obvious
I am flying LHR-FRA-IAD next month in F. This is my first Lufthansa flight and first time connecting at FRA. The scheduled connection time is just 70 minutes. I am an EU passport holder.
If I have read correctly I will arrive at Term B and depart from Term A. Should I make my own way from Term B to Term A? Or should I go to the First Class lounge in Term B and get advice there/a possible car transfer?
Many thanks.
I am flying LHR-FRA-IAD next month in F. This is my first Lufthansa flight and first time connecting at FRA. The scheduled connection time is just 70 minutes. I am an EU passport holder.
If I have read correctly I will arrive at Term B and depart from Term A. Should I make my own way from Term B to Term A? Or should I go to the First Class lounge in Term B and get advice there/a possible car transfer?
Many thanks.
If you arrive on an apron position you will get a car pick up, either to B non-Schengen or to AEU. BNS is easier for FCL B, if you are dropped off at AEU it might even be shorter to go to the FCT even if you have to go through passport control twice, once to go landside and once in the FCT which is no hassle...
Aug 16, 2017, 3:18 pm
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UK[BRS] to US[SJC] [ B Gate-Bus to Z Gate]
Hello,
Amazing Thread with lots of good information.
Here is my situation:
I have a 1H20M Connection on the same ticket [LH]
BRS->FRA->SJC
I have been observing that BRS->FRA always gets a Bus Gate[B-terminal] and flight to US [SJC] departs from Z gates
Will 1H20M enough time to connect ?
What is the best way to connect between B-Bus Gates to Z Gates.
Thanks for input.
Amazing Thread with lots of good information.
Here is my situation:
I have a 1H20M Connection on the same ticket [LH]
BRS->FRA->SJC
I have been observing that BRS->FRA always gets a Bus Gate[B-terminal] and flight to US [SJC] departs from Z gates
Will 1H20M enough time to connect ?
What is the best way to connect between B-Bus Gates to Z Gates.
Thanks for input.
Last edited by Ajay Bhat; Aug 16, 2017 at 4:27 pm
Aug 17, 2017, 1:25 am
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Hello,
Amazing Thread with lots of good information.
Here is my situation:
I have a 1H20M Connection on the same ticket [LH]
BRS->FRA->SJC
I have been observing that BRS->FRA always gets a Bus Gate[B-terminal] and flight to US [SJC] departs from Z gates
Will 1H20M enough time to connect ?
What is the best way to connect between B-Bus Gates to Z Gates.
Thanks for input.
Amazing Thread with lots of good information.
Here is my situation:
I have a 1H20M Connection on the same ticket [LH]
BRS->FRA->SJC
I have been observing that BRS->FRA always gets a Bus Gate[B-terminal] and flight to US [SJC] departs from Z gates
Will 1H20M enough time to connect ?
What is the best way to connect between B-Bus Gates to Z Gates.
Thanks for input.
Flights from BRS are operated by BM Regional and always arrive at B bus gates. From B bus gates to Z, take the Skyline train to Z and go through transfer security there. You should have enough time for the connection unless your flight from BRS is very late.