Jun 5, 2014, 1:13 pm
Last edit by: oliver2002
Welcome to the FRA connection thread! If you are new to FRA or this thread, please read the first post where you will find a summary of all pertinent information before asking more specific questions.
Current MCT in FRA connecting to/from LH:
Current MCT in FRA connecting to/from LH:
Code:
DMLH/FRA/LH/17MAY22 FRA LH TO LH FRA-FRA FROM - TO D/D D/I I/D I/I CC FLTN-FLTR ORGN EQP TM CS-CC FLTN-FLTR DEST EQP TM CS HHMM HHMM HHMM HHMM LH BUS - ---- ---- ---- 0100 LH - TRN 0100 0100 0100 0100 LH BR - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH CA - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH CN - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH EG - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH ET - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH IN - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH JP - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH QA - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH SG - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH TH - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH US - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH ZA - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH - US ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH KJR - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH KWQ - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH QDU - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH QKL - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH QKU - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH ZWS - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH KLT BUS - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH SDA BUS - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH 0400-0799 - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH Y- TRN 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH KJR Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH KWQ Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH QDU Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH QKL Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH QKU Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH ZWS Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH KLT BUS Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH SDA BUS Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH CA- ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH AC- TRN ---- ---- ---- 0200 LH PL LO- ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH PL LO- SC ---- ---- ---- 0100 TRN -LH ---- 0100 0100 0100 -LH BR ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH CA ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH CN ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH EG ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH ET ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH IN ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH JP ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH QA ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH SG ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH TH ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH US ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH ZA ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH TLV ---- 0100 ---- 0100 BUS -LH TLV ---- 0200 ---- 0200 TRN -LH TLV ---- 0200 ---- 0200 TRS -LH TLV ---- 0200 ---- 0200 -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0100 ---- 0100 BUS -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0115 ---- 0115 -LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0100 0100 0100 0100 LH -LH BUS 0100 0100 0100 0100 LH TRN -LH BUS INV INV INV INV LH TRS -LH BUS INV INV INV INV LH BUS -LH TRN INV INV INV INV LH BUS -LH TRS INV INV INV INV LH SC BUS -LH ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH SC TRN -LH ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH SC TRS -LH ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH -LH SC BUS ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH -LH SC TRN ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH -LH SC TRS ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH SC TRN -LH SC TRN INV INV INV INV LH SC TRS -LH SC TRN INV INV INV INV LH SC TRN -LH SC TRS INV INV INV INV LH SC TRS -LH SC TRS INV INV INV INV LH XER BUS -LH SC ---- ---- ---- 0100 LH -LH TLV ---- ---- ---- 0100 LH 0400-0799 -LH BUS ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH 0400-0799 -LH TRN ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH 0400-0799 -LH TRS ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH BUS -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH TRN -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH TRS -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH SC -LH 0400-0799 SG ---- 0045 ---- 0045 LH SC -LH 0400-0799 US ---- 0045 ---- 0045 LH SC -LH 0400-0799 ZA ---- 0045 ---- 0045 LH SC TRS -LH 0400-0799 US ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH BUS -LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 BUS ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRN ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRS ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH Y-LH BUS ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH AC-LH TRN ---- ---- 0200 ---- LH US UA-LH ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH UA-LH BY ---- ---- ---- INV LH EW-LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 BUS Y ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRN Y ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRS Y ---- ---- 0100 ---- -LH AC ---- ---- ---- 0100 -LH AI ---- 0115 ---- 0115 -LH XQ ---- 0130 ---- 0130 -LH PL LO ---- 0100 ---- ---- -LH BR OS ---- 0100 ---- ---- SC -LH PL LO ---- ---- ---- 0100 LH -LH UA ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH -LH XQ ---- 0130 ---- 0130 LH BUS -LH AC ---- ---- ---- 0200 LH TRN -LH AC ---- 0200 ---- 0200 LH TRN -LH UA ---- 0130 ---- ---- LH BY -LH UA ---- ---- ---- INV LH QDU -LH US UA ---- 0130 ---- ---- LH QKL -LH US UA ---- 0130 ---- ---- LH ZWS -LH US UA ---- 0130 ---- ---- LH LG-LH AC ---- ---- ---- 0200 LH AC-LH LG ---- ---- ---- 0200 LH AC-LH AT OS ---- ---- ---- 0100
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Jan 22, 2015, 3:07 am
#3016
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Hello! Im also connecting in FRA from the US on lufthansa then onto Bangkok on thai airways... Do I need to go through passport check? It will be a 6-hr layover anything u can suggest I can do during layover?
Jan 22, 2015, 3:24 am
#3017
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Jan 22, 2015, 10:47 am
#3018
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Is there access from the Level 3 Concourse Z gates to Level 2 Concourse A?
If so is it faster to walk through Concourse A rather than taking the Sky Line?
Last edited by 17jwblue17; Jan 22, 2015 at 12:34 pm
Jan 22, 2015, 12:50 pm
#3019
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Concourse A is Schengen so you can only go there from Concourse Z via passport control which is in the central atrium area where the old A/Z and new A/Z (gate 50 and above) meet.
You can only go from A to C via the Skyline train (the same as Z to C) and walking or by going landside and reclearing passport control and security. Not recommended to someone who is not familiar with FRA and without an EU passport.
Last edited by NewbieRunner; Jan 22, 2015 at 12:58 pm Reason: OP's post was edited while I was responding...
Jan 22, 2015, 6:47 pm
#3020
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You don't need to go through passport check if you stay in secure area of the airport. For what to do during your layover check this page on FRA website or search for 'FRA layover' in the Germany forum.
Jan 23, 2015, 1:46 am
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The paid lounge (Luxx Lounge) is landside so you cannot go there without going through passport control twice.
Jan 23, 2015, 10:46 am
#3022
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Not just between the US and Thailand. If you are connecting between non-Schengen countries (or between Schengen countries) you don't need to go through passport control.
The paid lounge (Luxx Lounge) is landside so you cannot go there without going through passport control twice.
The paid lounge (Luxx Lounge) is landside so you cannot go there without going through passport control twice.
The lounge being landside is a disappointment. I have a 6-hr layover in FRA and I would have loved to use it but I don't wanna go through the hassle of passport check.
Jan 23, 2015, 12:11 pm
#3023
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That 10-minute hassle (at worst) sure beats sitting around for 5 hours!
Jan 26, 2015, 11:06 am
#3024
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Referring to the map on page 23 (the last page) of this brochure:
http://www.frankfurt-airport.de/cont...eng-lowres.pdf
I will be taking the Sky Line from Concourse Z stop to Concourse B stop. I need to get to a gate at C Concourse.
After the stop at the Concourse B Sky Line stop, do I need to go through security? Someone told me I do. The map clearly shows I do not.
After exiting the Sky Line B stop do I go to the left or right? Is the stop on the left or right hand side of that hallway? The map is not clear
http://www.frankfurt-airport.de/cont...eng-lowres.pdf
I will be taking the Sky Line from Concourse Z stop to Concourse B stop. I need to get to a gate at C Concourse.
After the stop at the Concourse B Sky Line stop, do I need to go through security? Someone told me I do. The map clearly shows I do not.
After exiting the Sky Line B stop do I go to the left or right? Is the stop on the left or right hand side of that hallway? The map is not clear
Last edited by 17jwblue17; Jan 26, 2015 at 12:03 pm
Jan 26, 2015, 4:05 pm
#3025
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Referring to the map on page 23 (the last page) of this brochure:
http://www.frankfurt-airport.de/cont...eng-lowres.pdf
I will be taking the Sky Line from Concourse Z stop to Concourse B stop. I need to get to a gate at C Concourse.
After the stop at the Concourse B Sky Line stop, do I need to go through security? Someone told me I do. The map clearly shows I do not.
After exiting the Sky Line B stop do I go to the left or right? Is the stop on the left or right hand side of that hallway? The map is not clear
http://www.frankfurt-airport.de/cont...eng-lowres.pdf
I will be taking the Sky Line from Concourse Z stop to Concourse B stop. I need to get to a gate at C Concourse.
After the stop at the Concourse B Sky Line stop, do I need to go through security? Someone told me I do. The map clearly shows I do not.
After exiting the Sky Line B stop do I go to the left or right? Is the stop on the left or right hand side of that hallway? The map is not clear
The entrance to the Skyline train platform in Z is near gate Z16. You will have to go through security on the way to C concourse but it's a long time since I followed the route last (I was fortunate enough to be able to leave the terminal to go to the FCT instead of walking to a C gate last month) so cannot say exactly where security check points are. The Skyline trains have separate Schengen/public and non-Schengen carriages and the entrance to the Schengen/public platform is shown in J4. The Skyline logo in M2 is misleading because the entrance is not where the logo appears. So you cannot tell from the map where security is located because non-Schengen B/C stop is not even shown.
When you get to the Skyline stop for B/C, you go down the escalator and turn left at the bottom then turn right. If you turn right and right again you end up in B Concourse. But you shouldn't need to know all this in advance. All you (or your parents) need to do is to follow the signs.
Jan 26, 2015, 6:40 pm
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The Skyline trains have separate cheSngen/public and non-Schengen carriages and the entrance to the Schengen/public platform is shown in J4. The Skyline logo in M2 is misleading because the entrance is not where the logo appears. So you cannot tell from the map where security is located because non-Schengen B/C stop is not even shown.
When you get to the Skyline stop for B/C, you go down the escalator and turn left at the bottom then turn right. If you turn right and right again you end up in B Concourse. But you shouldn't need to know all this in advance. All you (or your parents) need to do is to follow the signs.
I thought they would be non-Schengen but from what it says it seems it should be Schengen /public. They are American. Why wouldn't they be non-Schengen?
Who can use the Fast Track security lanes? It is my understanding that if a flight is within a certain time period, a passenger can use it.
Last edited by 17jwblue17; Jan 26, 2015 at 7:15 pm
Jan 26, 2015, 7:33 pm
#3027
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Does FRA have free wifi at the airport at airside for transit passengers?
If so, for how long is the connection free?
We'll have 3-4 hrs in FRA (airside) so hoping we can use wifi to kill some time.
If so, for how long is the connection free?
We'll have 3-4 hrs in FRA (airside) so hoping we can use wifi to kill some time.
Jan 26, 2015, 11:13 pm
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This isn't a matter of choice - as long as they follow the signs to their gate, they'll be directed to the proper platform. It's physically impossible to board the wrong carriage.
Jan 27, 2015, 12:17 am
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Jan 27, 2015, 12:21 am
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When they get to the Sky Train platform are they going to have to determine which platform/carriage to go to and board? If so do they board the Schengen/public or non-Schengen?
I thought they would be non-Schengen but from what it says it seems it should be Schengen /public. They are American. Why wouldn't they be non-Schengen?
I thought they would be non-Schengen but from what it says it seems it should be Schengen /public. They are American. Why wouldn't they be non-Schengen?
Who can use the Fast Track security lanes? It is my understanding that if a flight is within a certain time period, a passenger can use it.