Jun 5, 2014, 1:13 pm
Last edit by: oliver2002
Welcome to the FRA connection thread! If you are new to FRA or this thread, please read the first post where you will find a summary of all pertinent information before asking more specific questions.
Current MCT in FRA connecting to/from LH:
Current MCT in FRA connecting to/from LH:
Code:
DMLH/FRA/LH/17MAY22 FRA LH TO LH FRA-FRA FROM - TO D/D D/I I/D I/I CC FLTN-FLTR ORGN EQP TM CS-CC FLTN-FLTR DEST EQP TM CS HHMM HHMM HHMM HHMM LH BUS - ---- ---- ---- 0100 LH - TRN 0100 0100 0100 0100 LH BR - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH CA - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH CN - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH EG - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH ET - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH IN - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH JP - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH QA - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH SG - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH TH - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH US - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH ZA - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH - US ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH KJR - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH KWQ - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH QDU - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH QKL - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH QKU - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH ZWS - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH KLT BUS - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH SDA BUS - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH 0400-0799 - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH Y- TRN 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH KJR Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH KWQ Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH QDU Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH QKL Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH QKU Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH ZWS Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH KLT BUS Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH SDA BUS Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH CA- ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH AC- TRN ---- ---- ---- 0200 LH PL LO- ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH PL LO- SC ---- ---- ---- 0100 TRN -LH ---- 0100 0100 0100 -LH BR ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH CA ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH CN ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH EG ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH ET ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH IN ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH JP ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH QA ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH SG ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH TH ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH US ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH ZA ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH TLV ---- 0100 ---- 0100 BUS -LH TLV ---- 0200 ---- 0200 TRN -LH TLV ---- 0200 ---- 0200 TRS -LH TLV ---- 0200 ---- 0200 -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0100 ---- 0100 BUS -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0115 ---- 0115 -LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0100 0100 0100 0100 LH -LH BUS 0100 0100 0100 0100 LH TRN -LH BUS INV INV INV INV LH TRS -LH BUS INV INV INV INV LH BUS -LH TRN INV INV INV INV LH BUS -LH TRS INV INV INV INV LH SC BUS -LH ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH SC TRN -LH ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH SC TRS -LH ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH -LH SC BUS ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH -LH SC TRN ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH -LH SC TRS ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH SC TRN -LH SC TRN INV INV INV INV LH SC TRS -LH SC TRN INV INV INV INV LH SC TRN -LH SC TRS INV INV INV INV LH SC TRS -LH SC TRS INV INV INV INV LH XER BUS -LH SC ---- ---- ---- 0100 LH -LH TLV ---- ---- ---- 0100 LH 0400-0799 -LH BUS ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH 0400-0799 -LH TRN ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH 0400-0799 -LH TRS ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH BUS -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH TRN -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH TRS -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH SC -LH 0400-0799 SG ---- 0045 ---- 0045 LH SC -LH 0400-0799 US ---- 0045 ---- 0045 LH SC -LH 0400-0799 ZA ---- 0045 ---- 0045 LH SC TRS -LH 0400-0799 US ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH BUS -LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 BUS ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRN ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRS ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH Y-LH BUS ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH AC-LH TRN ---- ---- 0200 ---- LH US UA-LH ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH UA-LH BY ---- ---- ---- INV LH EW-LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 BUS Y ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRN Y ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRS Y ---- ---- 0100 ---- -LH AC ---- ---- ---- 0100 -LH AI ---- 0115 ---- 0115 -LH XQ ---- 0130 ---- 0130 -LH PL LO ---- 0100 ---- ---- -LH BR OS ---- 0100 ---- ---- SC -LH PL LO ---- ---- ---- 0100 LH -LH UA ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH -LH XQ ---- 0130 ---- 0130 LH BUS -LH AC ---- ---- ---- 0200 LH TRN -LH AC ---- 0200 ---- 0200 LH TRN -LH UA ---- 0130 ---- ---- LH BY -LH UA ---- ---- ---- INV LH QDU -LH US UA ---- 0130 ---- ---- LH QKL -LH US UA ---- 0130 ---- ---- LH ZWS -LH US UA ---- 0130 ---- ---- LH LG-LH AC ---- ---- ---- 0200 LH AC-LH LG ---- ---- ---- 0200 LH AC-LH AT OS ---- ---- ---- 0100
Connecting in Frankfurt [FRA] 2009-2023 (retired)
Jul 22, 2014, 8:12 am
#2641
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55 minute connection on LH at FRA
I am coming from Manchester, UK (non Schengen) to Houston with 55 minute connection at Frankfurt on Lufthansa. Is this doable. If I miss the flight there is another one on United (LH codeshare) to IAH, will they put me on that one ?
Both flights are in Terminal 1, MAN arrives in Conc. B and LH to Houston leaves from A (380 aircraft).
Both flights are in Terminal 1, MAN arrives in Conc. B and LH to Houston leaves from A (380 aircraft).
Jul 22, 2014, 8:42 am
#2642
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Houston
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I am coming from Manchester, UK (non Schengen) to Houston with 55 minute connection at Frankfurt on Lufthansa. Is this doable. If I miss the flight there is another one on United (LH codeshare) to IAH, will they put me on that one ?
Both flights are in Terminal 1, MAN arrives in Conc. B and LH to Houston leaves from A (380 aircraft).
Both flights are in Terminal 1, MAN arrives in Conc. B and LH to Houston leaves from A (380 aircraft).
Jul 22, 2014, 8:57 am
#2643
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FYI. They made it through. There were two other people on the same next flight. LH had a bus waiting for the five of them and took them to the passport checkpoint. However, she was pulled for extra screening so that took a while and she thought she would miss the flight, but she got there on time. Not sure if they held the flight for them or if it was delayed for other reasons. Even with the delayed departure, they landed early.
thanks again for the help.
thanks again for the help.
Last edited by NewbieRunner; Jul 22, 2014 at 5:13 pm Reason: typo
Jul 22, 2014, 9:16 am
#2644
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For IAD-FRA there are 4 flights, two UA metal and two LH metal. I have taken UA 989 twice and it gets a remote stand (V gate). I also looked at some days and the LH flights get Z gates whereas UA gets remote stands or once a C gate. I connect to flights from A gates and I would like to avoid security check and a long walk. I guess the solution is to fly LH but then I don't get Pre-Check in the US.......
From the remote stand you get dumped via bus in B. So I guess that you are then "contaminated" so there is no chance to avoid security if you get a remote stand? Why can't they bring the bus so that you are in a "clean" area for US/UK arrivals?
What's the best way to connect to A from a longhaul remote stand? There is a passport control right there on the lower level and then you head toward the arrivals terminal but make a U-turn to security (which security is this? transit only?). Here they are "worse than TSA-psychotic". And then you get the long walk in the tunnel.
Is it faster if I head up the escalator and enter the B non-Schengen area? Can you enter the B non-Schengen without security?
From the remote stand you get dumped via bus in B. So I guess that you are then "contaminated" so there is no chance to avoid security if you get a remote stand? Why can't they bring the bus so that you are in a "clean" area for US/UK arrivals?
What's the best way to connect to A from a longhaul remote stand? There is a passport control right there on the lower level and then you head toward the arrivals terminal but make a U-turn to security (which security is this? transit only?). Here they are "worse than TSA-psychotic". And then you get the long walk in the tunnel.
Is it faster if I head up the escalator and enter the B non-Schengen area? Can you enter the B non-Schengen without security?
Sometimes remote arrivals are brought to arrivals A which are immediately below transfer security for A/Z and cut out the need to move from B to Z via the Skyline train or going landside. You cannot enter B non-Schengen without clearing security even if you arrive at a B gate.
Jul 22, 2014, 9:22 am
#2645
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I am coming from Manchester, UK (non Schengen) to Houston with 55 minute connection at Frankfurt on Lufthansa. Is this doable. If I miss the flight there is another one on United (LH codeshare) to IAH, will they put me on that one ?
Both flights are in Terminal 1, MAN arrives in Conc. B and LH to Houston leaves from A (380 aircraft).
Both flights are in Terminal 1, MAN arrives in Conc. B and LH to Houston leaves from A (380 aircraft).
). If you are lucky the bus may drop you at A arrivals and you only need to go up the escalatosr to transfer security but you cannot tell from day to day. As long as you are on one ticket they should put you on a later flight to IAH should you miss the connection.
Jul 22, 2014, 5:05 pm
#2646
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We are connecting thru FRA next week, VCE-FRA on LH in J, connecting to FRA-ORD flying in J on HL 432 (the 747-400 unfortunately, but there it is, we get to depart Venice at a much more humane time vs. catching the much earlier 747-8).
We have 1:15 for the connection. I'm thinking this will mean we need to be snappy but not running?
Any suggestions, such as using a business lounge, or avoiding the tunnel? I'm assuming we have to go thru passport check from Schengen to non-S departures. Do they do the additional screening at the gate like DL does at AMS?
I only found a few day's arrival info and it looks like LH 327 may arrive at 1A Bus, or an A gate. The ORD flight will most likely fly out of the Z gates, I think, but I've seen both Z50 and Z69. Which is at the far end?
If the Venice flight is late, are we stuck till the following morning? We got a screaming deal on a P fare on UA stock, will that matter as far as how we're handled in case of a missed connection?
I travel a fair amount but FRA seems a bit daunting. Any tips would be great. Thanks!
We have 1:15 for the connection. I'm thinking this will mean we need to be snappy but not running?
Any suggestions, such as using a business lounge, or avoiding the tunnel? I'm assuming we have to go thru passport check from Schengen to non-S departures. Do they do the additional screening at the gate like DL does at AMS?
I only found a few day's arrival info and it looks like LH 327 may arrive at 1A Bus, or an A gate. The ORD flight will most likely fly out of the Z gates, I think, but I've seen both Z50 and Z69. Which is at the far end?
If the Venice flight is late, are we stuck till the following morning? We got a screaming deal on a P fare on UA stock, will that matter as far as how we're handled in case of a missed connection?
I travel a fair amount but FRA seems a bit daunting. Any tips would be great. Thanks!
Last edited by RaflW; Jul 22, 2014 at 10:09 pm
Jul 23, 2014, 2:52 am
#2647
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We are connecting thru FRA next week, VCE-FRA on LH in J, connecting to FRA-ORD flying in J on HL 432 (the 747-400 unfortunately, but there it is, we get to depart Venice at a much more humane time vs. catching the much earlier 747-8).
We have 1:15 for the connection. I'm thinking this will mean we need to be snappy but not running?
Any suggestions, such as using a business lounge, or avoiding the tunnel? I'm assuming we have to go thru passport check from Schengen to non-S departures. Do they do the additional screening at the gate like DL does at AMS?
I only found a few day's arrival info and it looks like LH 327 may arrive at 1A Bus, or an A gate. The ORD flight will most likely fly out of the Z gates, I think, but I've seen both Z50 and Z69. Which is at the far end?
If the Venice flight is late, are we stuck till the following morning? We got a screaming deal on a P fare on UA stock, will that matter as far as how we're handled in case of a missed connection?
I travel a fair amount but FRA seems a bit daunting. Any tips would be great. Thanks!
We have 1:15 for the connection. I'm thinking this will mean we need to be snappy but not running?
Any suggestions, such as using a business lounge, or avoiding the tunnel? I'm assuming we have to go thru passport check from Schengen to non-S departures. Do they do the additional screening at the gate like DL does at AMS?
I only found a few day's arrival info and it looks like LH 327 may arrive at 1A Bus, or an A gate. The ORD flight will most likely fly out of the Z gates, I think, but I've seen both Z50 and Z69. Which is at the far end?
If the Venice flight is late, are we stuck till the following morning? We got a screaming deal on a P fare on UA stock, will that matter as far as how we're handled in case of a missed connection?
I travel a fair amount but FRA seems a bit daunting. Any tips would be great. Thanks!
There may be (random?) security screening for US departures. As long as you are on one ticket who issued it or how much you paid shouldn't make any difference in case of misconnection (sometimes status might), though it might affect the standard of overnight accommodation LH provides.
Jul 25, 2014, 8:34 am
#2648
Join Date: Jul 2014
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hi. i need a help. i'm coming from istanbul (IST) to HAM via FRA and i have a 1 hour for transit. i'm turkish citizen and i have a schengen visa.
is it doable?
thanks for your information and advice.
is it doable?
thanks for your information and advice.
Jul 25, 2014, 9:05 am
#2649
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Are you on LH1305/LH008 or LH1299/LH024? One hour in FRA may be a little tight since you will have to clear passport control and security, but provided you are travelling on one ticket they will put you on the next available flight to HAM if you miss the connection and there are almost hourly flights between FRA and HAM.
Jul 25, 2014, 10:58 am
#2650
Join Date: Jul 2014
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my flights are LH1299/LH024.
i'm already have e-boarding pass. but i'll take printed pass at airport too because of battery issue
my second question about transferring between arrival and departure.
any suggestion for this? running or what?
yes this will my first time at FRA :/
i'm already have e-boarding pass. but i'll take printed pass at airport too because of battery issue
my second question about transferring between arrival and departure.
any suggestion for this? running or what?
yes this will my first time at FRA :/
Jul 25, 2014, 10:59 am
#2651
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 3
Welcome to FT, trblnfxn!
Are you on LH1305/LH008 or LH1299/LH024? One hour in FRA may be a little tight since you will have to clear passport control and security, but provided you are travelling on one ticket they will put you on the next available flight to HAM if you miss the connection and there are almost hourly flights between FRA and HAM.
Are you on LH1305/LH008 or LH1299/LH024? One hour in FRA may be a little tight since you will have to clear passport control and security, but provided you are travelling on one ticket they will put you on the next available flight to HAM if you miss the connection and there are almost hourly flights between FRA and HAM.
i'm already have e-boarding pass. but i'll take printed pass at airport too because of battery issue
my second question about transferring between arrival and departure.
any suggestion for this? running or what?
yes this will my first time at FRA :/
Jul 25, 2014, 4:22 pm
#2652
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I wish I know the answer but UK arrivals in FRA hardly ever get to a 'clean' area unlike US arrivals in Z.
Sometimes remote arrivals are brought to arrivals A which are immediately below transfer security for A/Z and cut out the need to move from B to Z via the Skyline train or going landside. You cannot enter B non-Schengen without clearing security even if you arrive at a B gate.
Sometimes remote arrivals are brought to arrivals A which are immediately below transfer security for A/Z and cut out the need to move from B to Z via the Skyline train or going landside. You cannot enter B non-Schengen without clearing security even if you arrive at a B gate.
So what is the best route if you are dumped at B and need to get to an A Schengen gate (usually the Senator lounge in A for me)?
Jul 25, 2014, 5:26 pm
#2653
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The bus actually passes the A gates, which is infuriating. But A is Schengen so a flight from the US that gets a remote stand has to dump people in B arrivals.
So what is the best route if you are dumped at B and need to get to an A Schengen gate (usually the Senator lounge in A for me)?
So what is the best route if you are dumped at B and need to get to an A Schengen gate (usually the Senator lounge in A for me)?
Even if you are dropped at A non-Schengen arrivals you cannot avoid transfer security but if your destination is FRA (or if you are walking to the FCT
) passport control inside A non-Schengen arrivals always seems to be very quiet with hardly any queues. It's also only a few minutes' walk to the FCT.
Jul 26, 2014, 8:52 am
#2654
Join Date: Jun 2000
Posts: 181
90 mins transit, do we have enough time to enjoy FRA lounge?
We'll be flying from EWR to VIE (final destination is TIA) via FRA. EWR to FRA is on UA968/LH7602 in F, FRA to VIE is on LH1236 in J. Transit time in FRA in only 90 mins, do we have enough time for FCL or even FCT? Thank you.
Jul 26, 2014, 9:01 am
#2655
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Since UA968/LH7602 is operated by United you won't have access to the FCL/FCT unfortunately. You could try the Senator Lounge in A concourse with your arriving F BP (or if you are *G) but your departing BP in Business may only give you access to the Business Lounge. Depending on your departure gate you may want to use the Business Lounge above gate A26 which is a former First Class Lounge and is more spacious and quieter than other Senator/Business lounges.
