LH increases[/reduces] fuel surcharge
#361
Join Date: Mar 2008
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Well, lower fuel cost is a major contributor to their bottom line currently, so they don't want to disappoint in the next quarters :-).
Don't see much a of discount on the connecting flights (unless some takes a shuttle between the hubs on top), but the lowered surcharge on short haul flights seems like a step in the right way, so connecting flight awards in Europe might become somewhat more viable use of miles.
Don't see much a of discount on the connecting flights (unless some takes a shuttle between the hubs on top), but the lowered surcharge on short haul flights seems like a step in the right way, so connecting flight awards in Europe might become somewhat more viable use of miles.
#362
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The other mildly positive thing I can get out of this is that you now max out the number of possible transfers on revenue tickets without the additional YQ penalty on MR itineraries
#363
Join Date: Mar 2008
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It does help though, since married segments rev.mgmt seems to enforce a MUC-FRA in the middle for me somtimes, so saving those 32 EUR or something is nice.
In summary, seems as all the recent M&M moves seem to be decided in Flying Blue HQ.
#364
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Yes- and at some point it begins to push people to not want to fly unfortunately. Perhaps that is why traffic grows so much slower than the IATA traffic trends? Customers are nor stupid nor captive- and fuel charges of 500 EUR border on assuming a customer is one of the two.
#365
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The consumer people won't care since the total price is what matters when buying a revenue ticket. The surcharges that apply to awards are minor in the big picture, so they don't lift a finger on that one. The argument there is that if a loyalty/bonus programme is not attractive people will not use it, so no consumer harm done.
#366
Join Date: Sep 2013
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Well, since the price of fuel fell, its now an International/Domestic surcharge covering 'costs that the airlines have little or no control over' I would love to have a surcharge like that, wouldn't you??
The consumer people won't care since the total price is what matters when buying a revenue ticket. The surcharges that apply to awards are minor in the big picture, so they don't lift a finger on that one. The argument there is that if a loyalty/bonus programme is not attractive people will not use it, so no consumer harm done.
The consumer people won't care since the total price is what matters when buying a revenue ticket. The surcharges that apply to awards are minor in the big picture, so they don't lift a finger on that one. The argument there is that if a loyalty/bonus programme is not attractive people will not use it, so no consumer harm done.
#367
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#368
Join Date: Nov 2000
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I still don't understand why customer protection agencies are sleeping here. Fuel prices dont change anymore for years now, but the surcharges keep creeping up.
It is outrageous! I have stopped flying LH for this reason, and i have become completely transactional myself.
And, by the way, on my remaining LH flights (old tickets I am using up) I now complain about ANYTHING that goes wrong - malfunctioning entertainment system, dirty seats, lack of glove box next to the screen. And demand for some USD vouchers, which I always get.
It is outrageous! I have stopped flying LH for this reason, and i have become completely transactional myself.
And, by the way, on my remaining LH flights (old tickets I am using up) I now complain about ANYTHING that goes wrong - malfunctioning entertainment system, dirty seats, lack of glove box next to the screen. And demand for some USD vouchers, which I always get.
#369
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IATA confirms that jet fuel prices dropped almost 16% during the course of the year:
http://www.iata.org/publications/eco...-analysis.aspx
Is there any chance that LH group of companies follow course and drop their fuel surcharges, which is mostly attributed to the increase cost of fuel?
http://www.iata.org/publications/eco...-analysis.aspx
Is there any chance that LH group of companies follow course and drop their fuel surcharges, which is mostly attributed to the increase cost of fuel?
#370
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: GRR, USA
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IATA confirms that jet fuel prices dropped almost 16% during the course of the year:
http://www.iata.org/publications/eco...-analysis.aspx
Is there any chance that LH group of companies follow course and drop their fuel surcharges, which is mostly attributed to the increase cost of fuel?
http://www.iata.org/publications/eco...-analysis.aspx
Is there any chance that LH group of companies follow course and drop their fuel surcharges, which is mostly attributed to the increase cost of fuel?
#371
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#373
Join Date: May 2009
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Thats why the taxes/fees for awardtickets also went up, and will go up again!
I got F award CGN-FRA-BKK-HKT-BKK-FRA-CGN in FEB04 for traveling DEC04 and paid only 34 Euro.
And last Monday I got exactly the same ticket for traveling next week and had to pay 93 Euro + 10 for papertix = 103 Euro !!!!
I got F award CGN-FRA-BKK-HKT-BKK-FRA-CGN in FEB04 for traveling DEC04 and paid only 34 Euro.
And last Monday I got exactly the same ticket for traveling next week and had to pay 93 Euro + 10 for papertix = 103 Euro !!!!
#374
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Granted MM has high fees/YQ/etc what ever you want to label it but at the end of the day it's still a decent value proposition considering the value of the seat that you get to sit in.
#375
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