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Old May 24, 2017, 11:11 am
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Originally Posted by daumueller
The T2S FCL reopened today at 3 PM
How about the Non-Schengen SEN lounge?
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Old May 24, 2017, 1:59 pm
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Originally Posted by gusd
How about the Non-Schengen SEN lounge?
sorry, no idea - was just at the FCL at T2 and asked about the satellite lounge
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Old May 25, 2017, 1:27 pm
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Originally Posted by daumueller
The T2S FCL reopened today at 3 PM
Good timing indeed, as my flight yesterday evening departed from gate K12, which is right next to the lounge entrance.

It again looks brand new...
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Old Jul 25, 2018, 1:12 am
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Take a look at this:

The driverless transport system that connects Terminal 2 at Munich Airport with the satellite building is to be expanded in its functionality to be able to handle the rising passenger volumes without any problems in the future. The planned conversion requires intensive test operations, while the "airport subway" is not available for transporting passengers. The planned tests will be carried out in the period from 30th July 2018 to 6th September 2018, from Monday 12 p.m. to Thursday 12 p.m. During this time, passengers will be transported by shuttle buses to and from the satellite building.As the replacement bus service can extend passengers’ journeys to their departure gate by up to 20 minutes, passengers whose journey begins in Munich and who are departing from the the satellite building - i.e. areas K or L - should take this additional time requirement into account when planning their journey.
https://newsroom.lufthansagroup.com/...f-4862b33ef531
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Old Jul 25, 2018, 5:13 am
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Originally Posted by cas_de
Oh boy, they need to work on a brand new train system already......

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Old Jul 25, 2018, 5:37 am
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uhm, 4 days a week for more than a month?!
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Old Jul 25, 2018, 5:42 am
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Oh boy, they need to work on a brand new train system already......

From what I heared they want to switch the operating mode from two trains (going back and forth on their respective track) to three trains going round about. The goal is to increase the capacity and presumably making it easier for the Schengen pax that have to decide which track to go to (despite the arrows indicating where the next train will go from). The southern track is supposed to go T2 -> T2S, and the northern track is used for T2S -> T2 (because of the unclean pax coming into MUC).

Source: MUCForum & TZ newspaper.
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Old Jul 25, 2018, 5:45 am
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Originally Posted by cas_de
From what I heared they want to switch the operating mode from two trains (going back and forth on their respective track) to three trains going round about. The goal is to increase the capacity and presumably making it easier for the Schengen pax that have to decide which track to go to (despite the arrows indicating where the next train will go from). The southern track is supposed to go T2 -> T2S, and the northern track is used for T2S -> T2 (because of the unclean pax coming into MUC).

Source: MUCForum & TZ newspaper.
Sure & they didn’t think about increasing pax or trying to get them from A to B faster before
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Old Jul 25, 2018, 6:24 am
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Sure & they didn’t think about increasing pax or trying to get them from A to B faster before
Well, one could think that a load of smart people were involved when designing the new airport in Berlin...
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Old Jul 25, 2018, 6:38 am
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Well, one could think that a load of smart people were involved when designing the new airport in Berlin...
Your so right & one might expect it of the mess that is FRA but in MUC it’s a shame
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Old Jul 29, 2018, 5:20 am
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The airport needs an approval of the authorities for changing the operation mode. This is why they need the tests.
The approval for the current mode just arrived a few days before the satelitte was opened.
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Old Jul 29, 2018, 8:34 am
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The airport needs an approval of the authorities for changing the operation mode. This is why they need the tests.
The approval for the current mode just arrived a few days before the satelitte was opened.
That seems overly complex & an awful lot of testing, given that the trains have been operating for quite a while now & why could they not seek approval for a few different timings from the beginning?
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Old Jul 29, 2018, 8:49 am
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That seems overly complex & an awful lot of testing, given that the trains have been operating for quite a while now & why could they not seek approval for a few different timings from the beginning?
They were actually planning to, but then teething issues with the trains jeopardized the opening of the satellite and so the obtained “emergency” approval for the reduced schedule.
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Old Jul 29, 2018, 8:53 am
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They were actually planning to, but then teething issues with the trains jeopardized the opening of the satellite and so the obtained “emergency” approval for the reduced schedule.
Ah, thanks, now we get to the actual reason for the train disruption
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Old Jul 29, 2018, 2:48 pm
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Originally Posted by chris63


Ah, thanks, now we get to the actual reason for the train disruption
Sounds to me like damned if you do, damned if you don't.

People would have been upset if the opening had to be postponed because of a missing approval for all theoretical modes of operation for the PTS, so apparently they decided to go ahead with a reasonable scenario and now two years later they find the need to revisit this topic and get approval for additional scenarios. People are upset again. I guess there is no right or wrong here, but working a project based business I don't find the approach unreasonable (let's start with a realistic scenario that we can get approved in time, rather than delaying the opening and spending extra €€€ on evaluating other options. Let's worry about that when the time is right).
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