Lufthansa business class [merged] experience reports
Feb 19, 2015, 11:13 am
#46
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Recently I ended up in 3K on the A330 (had no other choice, full flight) and realised why the PM of the new C advised me to avoid it. Its really less spacious.
The narrowness instantly vanishes when you lower the armrest. The 2m length is supposed to be head to toe, ie including the headrest and ottoman.
On my way back I had the oldest version of the new C seat (D-AIKQ, delivered May 2012) and the seatback cushion was inop, ie deflated. A restart of the seat wouldn't fix the deflation, so the solution was to put a spare blanket in the gap. Didn't really help.
The narrowness instantly vanishes when you lower the armrest. The 2m length is supposed to be head to toe, ie including the headrest and ottoman.
On my way back I had the oldest version of the new C seat (D-AIKQ, delivered May 2012) and the seatback cushion was inop, ie deflated. A restart of the seat wouldn't fix the deflation, so the solution was to put a spare blanket in the gap. Didn't really help.
Feb 19, 2015, 7:52 pm
#47
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I had my first experience in the new LH C on FRA-PVG (A380) last week, and I have to admit I was shocked at how short the seat was. I remember the LH propaganda unit stating that the seat was "almost two metres long", so I assumed a 1.90m person wouldn't have much trouble fitting in. However, it seems that anyone over 1.80m will have a hard time sleeping on their back. To make things worse, the narrow nature of the seat (which wouldn't normally bother me) made it very difficult to sleep on the side as well, because there's no convenient place for your elbow or knees. How this kind of seat design fits the Western demographic is beyond me. I'm giving the seat another go on A346 next week, so we'll see how it goes, but I definitely don't see myself paying the premium LH is asking for this kind of experience in the future.
Anyone want to venture specific seat recommendation?
Oliver2002?
Feb 19, 2015, 10:19 pm
#48
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The back small cabin isn't really as private as the seat map suggests. There is no actual divider, just the exit row space separating you from the rest of the seats, and even that doesn't apply to the middle section, where seats continue uninterrupted. It's better for the views in case of a window seat, and you get served first, but that's about it. The A380 upper deck is still the stadium it's always been
Feb 21, 2015, 9:56 am
#49
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Recently I ended up in 3K on the A330 (had no other choice, full flight) and realised why the PM of the new C advised me to avoid it. Its really less spacious.
The narrowness instantly vanishes when you lower the armrest. The 2m length is supposed to be head to toe, ie including the headrest and ottoman.
On my way back I had the oldest version of the new C seat (D-AIKQ, delivered May 2012) and the seatback cushion was inop, ie deflated. A restart of the seat wouldn't fix the deflation, so the solution was to put a spare blanket in the gap. Didn't really help.
The narrowness instantly vanishes when you lower the armrest. The 2m length is supposed to be head to toe, ie including the headrest and ottoman.
On my way back I had the oldest version of the new C seat (D-AIKQ, delivered May 2012) and the seatback cushion was inop, ie deflated. A restart of the seat wouldn't fix the deflation, so the solution was to put a spare blanket in the gap. Didn't really help.
Feb 23, 2015, 12:48 pm
#50
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we(2) will be on a 747-8, iAd-fra return, biz class next week. is there a preference upstairs to downstairs? we flew upstairs one time. it was really cold up there, and overhead storage was very limited. seat guru specifies seat withs vary from 19.7 to 26". which are which, and which are preferred?
Feb 23, 2015, 2:41 pm
#51
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Feb 23, 2015, 4:38 pm
#52
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we(2) will be on a 747-8, iAd-fra return, biz class next week. is there a preference upstairs to downstairs? we flew upstairs one time. it was really cold up there, and overhead storage was very limited. seat guru specifies seat withs vary from 19.7 to 26". which are which, and which are preferred?
Feb 24, 2015, 2:16 am
#53
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Wow, I could've had a really decent night's sleep had I read this thread more carefully prior to takeoff.
I still blame LH though
Feb 24, 2015, 3:36 am
#54
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Hello we are flying business class on the 380 to JNB from Frank. In terms of seats I always like to sit ahead of the wings so when I look out I see the leading edge of the wing. Now is there a seat on the 380 in business class that gives me that? when I look up the 380 on seat guru the seats are all on the wing and back? Any thoughts?
Feb 24, 2015, 10:47 am
#55
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Am I the only one disliking the new Business seat?
I flew the new Business seat from MUC to CLT this February and was more then uncomfortable! The seat is so slim that it is only possible to go into a cardle/lounge position. Fully Flat was impossible. My neighbor tried to footy fight with me and had his feet bumping my legs. Food was neither good! Browned salad leaves, dried out meat! The only positive was the Service, which was stellar!
Just to my frame/size: Just regular guy with 6'1 (186), 185lbs (85kgs)!
I did write Lufthansa about my experience and actually they did write me back with a ... too bad you did not like your flight, we tested the seats before implementing them and other guests just rave about them and our stellar service and hope you will still fly Lufthansa a lot!
Just to my frame/size: Just regular guy with 6'1 (186), 185lbs (85kgs)!
I did write Lufthansa about my experience and actually they did write me back with a ... too bad you did not like your flight, we tested the seats before implementing them and other guests just rave about them and our stellar service and hope you will still fly Lufthansa a lot!
Feb 24, 2015, 12:10 pm
#57
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Very similar size here. I had no problems with the size of the seat, but I think I'd like the old business seat better if it went all the way horizontal. Just more comfortable, especially the lounge configuration.
HTB.
HTB.
Feb 25, 2015, 1:14 am
#58
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I did write Lufthansa about my experience and actually they did write me back with a ... too bad you did not like your flight, we tested the seats before implementing them and other guests just rave about them and our stellar service and hope you will still fly Lufthansa a lot!
Feb 25, 2015, 1:41 am
#59
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I had my first LH experience over xmas, A380 FRA-SFO in 20D. Personally I thought the wide and airy feel of the seating space was great. I had no one next to me so privacy was not an issue, but I see the argument here. Services and food were excellent. I came away impressed.
After years of transpacific flights, I've developed an auto-fetus roll just before passing out, so the length of the space is never a problem for me. At the same time I did wonder if taller folks would need more space, as I was able to touch both ends of the wall. I'm 180cm 75kg.
After years of transpacific flights, I've developed an auto-fetus roll just before passing out, so the length of the space is never a problem for me. At the same time I did wonder if taller folks would need more space, as I was able to touch both ends of the wall. I'm 180cm 75kg.
Feb 25, 2015, 7:13 am
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New LH J seats are arranged in an angle, such that went your seat mate turns in his lie flat seat while sleeping, his knees slam into your legs.
Stupid design. Out dated.
All aisle access, 1-2-1 arrangement, is the new industry standard. Stick with CX, AA, QR.
Stupid design. Out dated.
All aisle access, 1-2-1 arrangement, is the new industry standard. Stick with CX, AA, QR.