weero

On which bird? I had them on the SIN-PEK route and they absolutely pathetic. Just a tad bit more legroom ... a product like UA would install it.

Add to this that they did not offer IFE on that route making it the worst PE seat I have even seen.

Oh and they were hard and uncomfortable.


But I am willing to believe that the longhaul equipment is significantly better.

hamallu

That would be quite a day for China-Taiwan bilateral relations if China Airlines were to be flying between SIN-PEK!!

CI not CA!! CI is playing catch up with their competing neighbours with their new 77Ws. They've even got the NZ patented SkyCouch seats in Y.

weero

My bad, I was in Star Alliance mode ....

So for ROC airlines, I shall stick with BR.

sventrax

During the LH strike this Spring I booked AF PE to HKG. My biggest complaint was that the seat would slide down into an unconfortable postion for my neck when trying to sleep. FAs were busy in economy and forgot to pass for a second round of wine; food was nothing to write home about.

All in all it was IMHO just and expensive economy. Never again

more4less

Hi,

If I wanted to change booking class from N to E without changing the date of the flight, I would still have to pay a change fee(IIRC 180€)?

Thanks,

demue

New in both cases - JL and CI. You can find details here:

http://thedesignair.net/2014/11/16/t...november-2014/

http://thedesignair.net/2014/09/05/j...ith-their-787/

Looks good and both have a leg rest which personally I prefer. Test in real life may turn out different though. Within *A I would still say TK is the best for me personally, but they are not investing in it any further or even phasing it out from what I heard (?).

will be interesting to see what SQ comes out with next year and what the pricing will be, but not holding my breath just yet.

weero

Thanks, the pics look better than the ones on the JAL website.

But as said, I know the JL 787 well but none of them had a PE.
Yes. And I hope that this will crank up the competition for LH and LX.

coolbeans202

For what it's worth, I got moved to a premium economy seat before I even checked in (had originally selected something in the 40's). There was a note on the seats that made it sound like they were selectively moving people into PE as sort of a "free" trial, in the hopes that you'd purchase it in the future.

My overall impression was that it is ok, but not great. I tend to fly to Europe in the depths of shoulder season (October, November, February) where I've seen some eeeeeeeeempty flights. I don't think I'd be willing to pay much of a premium, given that there is a chance I could have an empty middle, or even a whole row to myself.

That said, the seat was comfy and the tv was bigger, so there's that. If the service was just a little more attentive I might be willing to pay the premium. Also, the meal tray was way too tiny.

NewbieRunner

LH is to start selling (as opposed to giving them away ) Premium Economy seats 9 days earlier than originally planned on all routes flown by Boeing 748i including Bangalore, Buenos Aires, Chicago, Hong Kong, Los Angeles, Mexico City, Peking, Sao Paolo, Seoul, Tokyo-Haneda and Washington D.C.

As an inaugural offer, the Premium Economy Class can be booked at a 15 per-cent discount up to 9 December 2014.

http://www.lufthansagroup.com/en/pre...icle/3348.html

weero

Add to this that for a UA*G, LH's seat blocking kinda works. Paired with this year's inedible-food initiative @UA, I do not contemplate UA as a TATL alternative anymore and I can relate to your sentiment that for an Easy Coast-EU flight coach in the new birds is very survivable.
Well you can work on your laptop and you sleep a lot better than in coach. So for the 4K miles+ services, this is worth money.

YuropFlyer

At least they use the seats on the correct routes: North Asia, North & South America: The routes where the ME3 can't really compete on time, and where Y+ definitely has it's advantages despite the price. Let's see how it goes.

oliver2002

D-AIHR got E class last week and will enter service ex MUC. The plan is to fit all 9 A346 with new C with E and then fit E as part of the C retrofit in progress.

weero

I wonder if LX' disastrous decision to go with a crippled 777 coach layout and without PE has anything to do with pressure from LH itself ?

CLTRob

Will the flights from CLT to MUC offer Premium Economy?

oliver2002

The 346 aircraft will officially sell E only after the retrofit is complete. Until then Y pax will be seated in E to test out the new product.