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First Class elimination:
FRA-DXB as of 01JUN14
FRA-SEA as of 01JUL14
FRA-NRT as of Summer 2014
FRA-KIX
FRA-MCO

Cancelled destinations:
2014
Nizhny Novgorod/GOJ
Ekaterinburg
Khartoum
Ho Chi Minh
Busan
2013
Kazan
Perm
Libreville
Pointe Noire
2012
Rostov
Kolkata
Guangzhou
Calgary
2011
Hyderabad

Lufthansa New/Cancelled Routes and Changes

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Dec 14, 2013, 5:17 pm

#31

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increased NEK to TLV

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From 30MAR14, Lufthansa increases Munich – Tel Aviv operation from 5 to 8 weekly, on board Airbus A321 aircraft.

LH688 MUC1120 – 1615TLV 321 x235
LH688 MUC1130 – 1615TLV 321 3
LH680 MUC2235 – 0230+1TLV 321 256

LH681 TLV0500 – 0805MUC 321 367
LH689 TLV1715 – 2020MUC 321 3
LH689 TLV1715 – 2030MUC 321 256

Dec 15, 2013, 9:10 pm

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DUS-MIA-DUS this winter ??

Does anyone know what happened to DUS-MIA this winter?

Dec 15, 2013, 10:24 pm

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On a somewhat related note I am now waiting since 4 weeks to hear from Germanwings for my rebookings on the canceled GVA-TXL. I had made suggestions to be rebooked on LH, but the only thing offered was a refund and telling me i should book Easyjet (which is now more than double the price already). Will wait a bit more but very bad experience.

I do not think that Germanwings will proactively come back to you.
Have you got it in written by Germanwings that you shoud book on Easyjet?
If yes, maybe you could book on Easyjet and claim back the entire price back from Germanwings. Most likely you need to sue Germanwings (Mahnbescheid, Klage).

Dec 16, 2013, 12:16 am

#34

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Lufthansa New/Cancelled Routes and Changes

They remain very vague overall, saying in written 'book the cheapest alternative and we'll consider a refund'. I have requested clarification and they said they would cover up to CHF 1,000 extra cost for a total of 8 tickets. Given the bookings were over holiday long weekends and the back and forth has gone on for a while this will not suffice. I have booked alternatives on LH and sent them the tickets, will keep everybody posted.

One thing is for sure, if a route is changed from LH to Germanwings then this is no longer the same...but why would I be surprised that the Marketing talk is misleading ? I am also wondering if being a SEN makes no difference, or if 'normal' pax are treated even worse.

Dec 16, 2013, 2:12 am

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Originally Posted by Christefan

Does anyone know what happened to DUS-MIA this winter?

Cancelled in August according to airline route

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Update at 0400GMT 05AUG13 (Error in schedule listing corrected at 0525GMT)

Lufthansa has confirmed the cancellation of Dusseldorf – Miami Winter 2013/14 operation, as the Star Alliance member removed the schedule of 5 weekly service last week. LH since late-May 2013 closed reservation for discounted fares, while accepting reservations in full-fare booking class (F/J/Y/B).

The following was operational schedule for Winter 2012/13 season

LH466 DUS1215 – 1645MIA 343 x13
LH467 MIA1835 – 0930+1DUS 343 x13

Dec 17, 2013, 4:03 am

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Let me say it that way. Your rights are very clear. Germanwings must rebook you onto the next available flight option for TXL-GVA. This is according to EC261/2004. The 14-day rule does not apply here.

Germanwings seems to rather force a refund onto you, because it is cheaper for them. You dont have to accept it.
To be successful in court, you must prove:
1) That you have requested a free rebooking, state a 14 day deadline (you need a proof of delivery)
2a) That Germanwings has refused to rebook
OR
2b) That Germanwings broke the deadline and did not rebook

Now, you can book new tickets (cheapest available) and claim the price for the new ticket.
Also here you need to request this money, state a 14 day deadline (you again need a proof of delivery)

Only after Germanwings breaks that deadline, you can sue Germanwings / Thomas Winkelmann in Cologne District Court.

Since you are talking about a party 8, the amount will be very high, so its worth it sueing them.

Dec 17, 2013, 4:40 am

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New Bodrum / Lamezia Terme routes

According to http://airlineroute.net/2013/12/17/lh-bjvsuf-s14/

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Lufthansa in Summer 2014 season is introducing new routes from Munich, with service to Bodrum and Lamezia Terme. Planned operation as follow.

eff 12APR14 Munich – Lamezia Terme 1 weekly
LH1962 MUC0900 – 1100SUF 320 6
LH1963 SUF1150 – 1355MUC 320 6

eff 08JUN14 Munich – Bodrum 1 weekly
LH1788 MUC1120 – 1510BJV 320 7
LH1789 BJV1555 – 1745MUC 320 7

LH currently scheduled to operate both routes until 02NOV14

Dec 18, 2013, 5:06 am

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Tokyo Haneda/Narita changes from late-March 2014

According to http://airlineroute.net/2013/12/18/lh-hnd-s14/

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Lufthansa from 30MAR14 is resuming service to Tokyo Haneda since 1978. The Star Alliance member will operate 1 daily Frankfurt – Tokyo Haneda service, in addition to existing 1 daily flight to Tokyo Narita. Munich – Tokyo Narita service will move to Munich – Tokyo Haneda.

Frankfurt – Tokyo Haneda
LH716 FRA1820 – 1215+1HND 744 D
LH717 HND1405 – 1845FRA 744 D

Together with Star Alliance partner ANA, Lufthansa and ANA offers 3 daily Frankfurt – Tokyo Haneda service

Munich – Tokyo Haneda
LH714 MUC1545 – 1005+1HND 346 D
LH715 HND1150 – 1655MUC 346 D

ANA airlines are also adjusting their german routes with a new route to DUS!

More details here http://airlineroute.net/2013/12/18/nh-s14update2/

Dec 18, 2013, 5:07 am

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new destination: HND

Please see:

http://www.lufthansagroup.com/en/pre...icle/2745.html

Non-stop flights from Frankfurt and Munich to land in future at Tokyo’s Haneda Airport • Airport located close to the city with numerous connecting flights in Japan • Partner airline ANA with new Tokyo flight to Dusseldorf

Dec 18, 2013, 5:07 am

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Ethiopia changes

According to http://airlineroute.net/2013/12/18/lh-jed-feb14/

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Lufthansa from 20JAN14 is adjusting operations to Ethiopia, as existing 4 weekly Frankfurt – Khartoum – Addis Ababa switches to Frankfurt – Jeddah – Addis Ababa.

LH does not have local traffic rights on Jeddah – Addis Ababa sector. Currently, Khartoum route is operating as technical stop for Addis Ababa service.

LH598 FRA1035 – 1800JED1905 – 2150ADD 333 x247
LH599 ADD2345 – 0230+1JED0345+1 – 0745+1FRA 333 x247

From 30MAR14, Frankfurt – Jeddah – Addis Ababa sector operates as daily.

Dec 18, 2013, 6:57 am

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Originally Posted by cas_de

I think soon the NRT operations via KIX will be dropped for good.

Dec 18, 2013, 7:16 am

#42

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Originally Posted by cas_de

Non-stop flights from Frankfurt and Munich to land in future at Tokyo’s Haneda Airport • Airport located close to the city with numerous connecting flights in Japan • Partner airline ANA with new Tokyo flight to Dusseldorf

Yipee! More options for me for flights to TYO. ^

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Germany-Japan schedule from 30.03.2014
 
Tokyo-Haneda (HND)
LH716 (NH5854) Frankfurt 18.20 – Haneda 12.15+1
LH717 (NH5853) Haneda 14.05 – Frankfurt 18.45

LH714 (NH5852) Munich 15:45 – Haneda 10:05+1
LH715 (NH5851) Haneda 11.50 – Munich  16.55

NH224 (LH7242) Frankfurt 20.45 – Haneda 14.55+1
NH223 (LH7243) Haneda 11.25 – Frankfurt 16.35

NH204 (LH7236) Frankfurt 12.10 – Haneda 06.35+1
NH203 (LH7237) Haneda 00.55 – Frankfurt 06.05

NH276 (LH7244) Munich 21.25 – Haneda 15.50+1
NH275 (LH7245) Haneda 12.35 – Munich 17.20

Tokyo-Narita (NRT) 
	
LH740 (NH6006) Frankfurt 13.05 – Osaka 06.55+1 – Narita 08:55
LH741 (NH6005) Narita 10:25 – Osaka 13:15 – Frankfurt 18.00

NH942 (LH7240) Dusseldorf 18.35 – Narita 13.00+1
NH941 (LH7241) Narita 11.00 – Dusseldorf 16.00

Interesting they decided to extend the FRA-KIX service to NRT and NH's new service from DUS is going to NRT rather than HND. NH had better do something to increase the capacity of the lounges at HND.

Dec 18, 2013, 7:22 am

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Originally Posted by NewbieRunner

Yipee! More options for me for flights to TYO.

I'm very excited about this too. The Narita Express, while being a lovely train and all, is absolute hell after a 12 hour flight. Being 15 minutes from Shinagawa with direct access to the Shinkansen will make my life much easier.
And now I don't need to overnight in Narita the evening before my flight

Dec 18, 2013, 7:50 am

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Originally Posted by malmostoso

And now I don't need to overnight in Narita the evening before my flight

Currently I have to overnight in MAN as well as NRT unless I'm flying on NH210/NH203. Later departure times from both Europe and Tokyo will probably mean the end of my Hilton Gold status.

Dec 18, 2013, 9:23 am

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Originally Posted by NewbieRunner

Currently I have to overnight in MAN as well as NRT unless I'm flying on NH210/NH203. Later departure times from both Europe and Tokyo will probably mean the end of my Hilton Gold status.

If it means not sleeping at the Hilton in Narita, I think it's a good deal. Stupid overpriced hotel in the middle of nowhere.