LH Resuming CGK via KUL, Suspending SGN, [BKK and KUL lose First] Beginning 01JUN14
Nov 8, 2013, 3:10 pm
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Official link : http://www.lufthansa.com/th/en/new-f...H_ppbeDM071113
Effective from 30th March 2014, Lufthansa will change its operating schedule to day flight. The frequency remains the same with 1 flight per day from Bangkok Suvarnabhumi Airport (BKK) to Frankfurt Am Main Airport (FRA). SWISS and Austrian Airlines will remain the same night operation to Zurich (ZRH) and Vienna (VIE).
Now, the Lufthansa Group airlines offer you even more flexibility and combinability for your travel planning
Actually they are not wrong in the fact that we will have more flexibility.
Nov 8, 2013, 4:08 pm
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Nov 9, 2013, 12:04 am
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Nov 9, 2013, 1:35 am
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Looks like LH was not vigilant enough when they opened up FRA-CGK in their booking systems: O was available up to 4 on every given day in both directions for partners including Lifemiles and United.
Congrats to all who scored seats ^
Note: same thing happened on MUC-MEX and MUC-YYZ. I am curious how many award seats in F were booked in total...
Congrats to all who scored seats ^
Note: same thing happened on MUC-MEX and MUC-YYZ. I am curious how many award seats in F were booked in total...
Nov 9, 2013, 1:38 am
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There is a German airline that tries high pricing with highest inflexibility and a mediocre product and ,yes, they cannot afford to fly 2 A380 every day. Is that really surprising?
Nov 9, 2013, 1:56 am
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Clearly not a good move for you. But you have to give Lufthansa a bit of credit as an operator: they act like a bunch of loons in many respects, but they do have the stats and market intelligence to support decisions like this.
They can't offer night in both directions unless they fly onwards from BKK on a tag service (as before), or leave the aircraft on the ground at BKK. Both are expensive options.
Given the level of network competition into and out of Bangkok, yields are probably not healthy enough to justify the costs of maintaining night services.
They can't offer night in both directions unless they fly onwards from BKK on a tag service (as before), or leave the aircraft on the ground at BKK. Both are expensive options.
Given the level of network competition into and out of Bangkok, yields are probably not healthy enough to justify the costs of maintaining night services.
Feb 13, 2014, 10:09 pm
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747 bkk-kul?
I've seen flyer reports about the 747 flown from Bangkok to Kuala Lumpur. When I try to find this flight it appears the 747 equipment is now a 340-4. Is this temporary? I need to travel in the first half of March and want to take the 747 from Bangkok to KL.
Feb 13, 2014, 11:22 pm
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-- UPDATE --
Seems to have been a temporary glitch on Lufthansa's website. The site is now reporting again that the flight is serviced by 747 hardware.
(I don't know how to delete my original post so I've edited it to answer the OP)
Seems to have been a temporary glitch on Lufthansa's website. The site is now reporting again that the flight is serviced by 747 hardware.
(I don't know how to delete my original post so I've edited it to answer the OP)
Feb 14, 2014, 1:19 am
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It is currently operated by A340-600 but scheduled to change from 2nd March until the route finishes altogether on 29th March by 744.
Feb 18, 2014, 11:46 pm
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According to this post, seems like LH will be postponing its KUL-CGK tag-on services until 01 June 2014 and will be served by a 2-cabin aircraft (B744 or A343?) once the CGK service begins.
Feb 19, 2014, 12:58 am
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June 1: BKK and KUL lose First
According to the latest GDS update, both BKK and KUL are losing First Class from June 1:
http://airlineroute.net/2014/02/19/lh-bkkkul-s14update/
Question is whether LH will allow Lifemiles/United to rebook KUL F awards to SIN F awards.
http://airlineroute.net/2014/02/19/lh-bkkkul-s14update/
Question is whether LH will allow Lifemiles/United to rebook KUL F awards to SIN F awards.
Feb 19, 2014, 2:55 am
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Feb 19, 2014, 2:59 am
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BKK is the perfect example of a deregulated market, where more or less everyone has access and hardly anyone makes money.
Yields have become ridiculous, backpackers and seniors looking for a young entourage lead the way, so airlines are reacting. Contin. focus on cargo, high density configurations in Y and less seats in premium classes are one possible solution. First Class is so 1990´s on many routes...