Shipping/taking a pet on LH Group (using AVIH or PETC)
Aug 12, 2013, 3:12 pm
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Shipping/taking a pet on LH Group (using AVIH or PETC)
Is there anyone on the forum with access to Amadeus, and good knowledge of it? I need AVIH rules for JP, LX and EN - I'm looking for information if they accept rabbits as AVIH or not. As far as I'm told, OU (for example) allows only cats and dogs. I'd ask the airlines directly, but they're usually clueless, and can hardly tell a difference between PETC and AVIH rules :-(
Thanks!
Thanks!
Aug 12, 2013, 5:30 pm
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For LX, that would be http://www.SwissWorldCargo.com/
Aug 13, 2013, 1:44 pm
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Rules for JP in Amadeus:
Code:
gpbag
BAGGAGE POLICY EN 17APR13 1131Z
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//// PAGES UNDER CONSTRUCTION / SOME PAGES MISSING ////
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****** BAGGAGE ******
1. GENERAL CONDITIONS MS 21
2. PIECE CONCEPT MS 49
3. FREE BAGGAGE ALLOWANCE MS 72
4. CHECKED BAGGAGE: MS 153
5. ITEMS NOT TO BE INCLUDED IN CHECKED BAGGAGE: MS 168
6. UNCHECKED BAGGAGE(HAND BAGGAGE AND CARRY ON ITEMS) MS 182
6.1 HAND BAGGAGE MS 194
6.2 CARRY-ON ITEMS: MS 206
7. ITEMS NOT TO BE INCLUDED IN UNCHECKED BAGGAGE MS 225
8. USE OF ELECTRONIC DEVICES IN CABIN: MS 239
9. FORBIDEN ARTICLES: MS 252
10. TRANSPORTATION OF ARMS AND AMMUNITION MS 362
11. SPORTING/HUNTING FIREARMS MS 402
12. CARRIAGE OF SPORTING EQUIPMENT MS 414
13. TRANSPORTATION OF ANIMALS-GENERAL: MS 508
13.1 TRANSPORTATION OF ANIMALS (PETS) IN HOLD - A V I H MS 552
13.2 TRANSPORTATION OF ANIMALS(PETS)IN CABIN-P E T C(DOGS AND CATS) MS 559
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BAGGAGE POLICY EN 17APR13 1131Z
THE REQUEST IS NOT CONFIRMED, CANOE TRANSPORTATION WILL
BE REFUSED FOR CARRIAGE
-------------------------------------------------------------------
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13.TRANSPORTATION OF ANIMALS-GENERAL
=========================================
ACCEPTANCE FOR CARRIAGE OF PETS OR SEEING-EYE DOGS OR
OTHER SERVICE DOGS IS SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS THAT PASSENGER
ASSUMES FULL RESPONSIBILITY FOR SUCH PET WHERE CARRIAGE IS
NOT SUBJECT TO THE LIABILITY RULES OF THE CONVENTION.
THE CARRIAGE OF ANIMALS ON JP FLIGHTS IS LIMITED BUT ALLOWED,
PROVIDED THAT THIS IS NOT PROHIBITED BY THE COUNTRIES TO WHICH
THEY ARE CARRIED AND THAT JP REGULATIONS ARE OBSERVED. PETS MAY
BE CARRIED IN BAGGAGE HOLD (AVIH) OR IN PASSENGER CABIN (PETC) >MD
** IMPORTANT **: SPECIAL ATTENTION SHOULD BE PUT WHEN TRAVELING TO
UNITED KINGDOM. CHECK LATEST REQUIREMENTS ON INTERNET PAGE:
HTTP://WWW.DEFRA.GOV.UK/ANIMALH/QUARANTINE/INDEX.HTM
INFO ON EMBARGO FOR"AVIH" IS POSSIBLE TO FIND UNDER TIMATIC
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BAGGAGE POLICY EN 17APR13 1131Z
PAGES:
TIDFT/CTY/CS/PE (CTY- REPLACE WITH CITY CODE)
FOR HELP USE: GGHELP TIMATIC
TRANSPORTATION OF ANIMALS (AVIH AND PETC) IS NEVER INCLUDED
IN FREE BAGGAGE ALLOWANCE. EXCEPTIONS: SEEING EYE DOGS AND
OTHER SERVICE DOGS, ONE PER PASSENGER
CONTAINER FOR PET SHOULD MEET THE SPECIFICATION OF "IATA LIVE
ANIMALS REGULATIONS": MUST BE SUITABLE FOR AIR TRAVEL, OF SOLID
CONSTRUCTION TO AVOID ESCAPING OF PET, LARGE ENOUGH THAT THE
PET CAN STAND UPRIGHT IN THE CAGE AND TURN AROUND WITH BOTTOM
PART THAT WOULD ABSORBE POSSIBLE FLUIDS
**IMPORTANT**: THE ANIMAL SHOULD BE ACCOMPANIED BY VALID HEALTH
AND VACCINATION CERTIFICATES, ENTRY PERMITS, AND OTHER DOCUMENTS
REQUIRED BY COUNTRIES OF ENTRY OR TRANSIT. THE PASSENGER IS
LIABLE FOR ALL DAMAGES WHICH A PET MIGHT CAUSE TO OTHERS OR
ITSELF. JP HAVE NO LIABILITY IN RESPECT OF ANY SUCH ANIMAL NOT
HAVING ALL THE NECESSARY DOCUMENTS FOR ENTRY INTO OR PASSAGE
THROUGH ANY COUNTRY UNLESS SUCH DAMAGE HAS BEEN CAUSED
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BAGGAGE POLICY EN 17APR13 1131Z
BY CARRIER'S GROSS NEGLIGENCE OR WILFUL MISCONDUCT
PETS /ANIMALS/ MUST NEVER BE BOOKED OR ACCEPTED ON EXTRA SEAT AS CBBG!
FOR CHARGES GO TO CHARGES WEIGHT/PIECE CONCEPT AS THE CASE MAY BE
13.1 TRANSPORTATION OF ANIMALS (PETS) IN HOLD - A V I H
===========================================================
***RESERVATION:
SR AVIH YY NN1- DOG 25KGS 70X100X70CM TEXT/S3/P1
MAXIMUM DIMENSIONS OF CONTAINER ARE: 125 X 75 X 85CM AND
MAXIMUM WEIGHT INCLUDING PET AND FOOD IS 45KG.
13.2 TRANSPORTATION OF ANIMALS (PETS) IN CABIN - P E T C (DOGS AND CATS)
=========================================================================
***RESERVATION:
SR PETC YY NN1 - DOG 04KG 55X40X20 CM TEXT /S3/P1
MAXIMUM DIMENSIONS OF CONTAINER ARE: 55X40X23CM (55X40X21 FOR A319)AND
MAXIMUM WEIGHT 8 KG INCLUDING PET.
THE CONTAINER SHOULD BE PUT UNDER THE SEAT IN FRONT OF THE PASSENGER
Aug 13, 2013, 4:08 pm
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And, I hope I'm not asking for too much: Can you see if there's the same for OU in Amadeus, just to confirm that too?
This little guy will be very grateful:
Aug 13, 2013, 7:26 pm
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I was told that gnawing animals like rabbits, guinea pigs, etc. cannot be carried in the cabin because they might escape and start chewing cables.
They can go in the cargo hold, however, in a cage. I know because we once spent $400 to ship a guinea pig...
They can go in the cargo hold, however, in a cage. I know because we once spent $400 to ship a guinea pig...
Aug 14, 2013, 3:00 am
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He's now with my wife in the UK, and she's coming back end of month. When taking him there, freight companies (specialized in pet transport) asked for 1000-1200 Euros to take him as manifested cargo o_O So I flew him to BRU, and drove the rest of the way
Oh, stories I could tell you about flying animals and airline regulations and clueless agents...
Aug 14, 2013, 12:23 pm
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The text for OU:
The GG pages are info from the carrier for TAs, the date displayed here and there indicates when it was updated the last time.
Code:
>ggairou
QUICKPATHS EN 16OCT12 1450Z
********************** WELCOME TO **********************
CROATIA AIRLINES
********************** INFO PAGES **********************
TOPIC ENTER ENTER
----- ----- ------
BAGGAGE POLICY GG AIR OU BAGS GP BAG
CITY INFO GG AIR OU CITY GP CIT
COOPERATION GG AIR OU COOP GP COP
ELECTRONIC TICKETING GP TKT
FFP/CONVENTIONSPLUS GG AIR OU FREQUENT GP FRE
MEDICAL TRANSPORT GG AIR OU MEDICAL GP MED
MINORS/CHD/INF/YP GG AIR OU MINORS GP MIN
NEWS GG AIR OU NEWS GP NEW
RESERVATION PROCEDURES GG AIR OU RESERVATIONS GP RES
TICKETING GG AIR OU TICKETING GP TIC
TICKETING TIMELIMIT GP CRS
TRAVEL AGENCY INFO GG AIR OU TRAVEL AGENT GP TRA
** END OF QUICKPATH INDEX **
>gp bag
BAGGAGE POLICY EN 12JUN13 1304Z
CROATIA AIRLINES INDEX
SUBJECT ENTER
------- -----
CABIN BAGGAGE - CARRY ON ITEMS MS 22
CHECKED BAGGAGE ALLOWANCES MS 40
EXCESS BAGGAGE CHARGES MS 88
EXCESS VALUE CHARGES MS135
PETS IN HOLD MS141
PETS IN CABIN MS162
PROHIBITED ARTICLES - DANGEROUS GOODS MS181
SPORT EQUIPMENT MS185
UNACCOMPANIED BAGGAGE MS191
** END OF BAGGAGE POLICY INDEX **
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BAGGAGE POLICY EN 12JUN13 1304Z
MAX DECLARED VALUE ON OU FLIGHTS IS EUR 2000.00 PER PASENGER.
DECLARED VALUE MUST BE HIGHER THAN1.131 SDR/APPROX EUR 1230.00
CHARGE: 5% OF DECLARED VALUE.
****PETS IN HOLD - AVIH (DOGS AND CATS)*****************************
THE CARRIAGE OF ANIMALS ON OU FLIGHTS IS ALLOWED PROVIDED THAT
THIS IS NOT PROHIBITED BY THE COUNTRIES TO WHICH THEY ARE CARRIED: 1
(>TIDFT/CTY/CS/PE;CTY REPLACE WITH CITY CODE) AND THAT OU
REGULATIONS ARE OBSERVED. RESERVATION AND CONFIRMATION PRIOR TO DEPARTURE
IS MANDATORY.
I)AMADEUS INPUT EXAMPLE:
>SR AVIH OU NN1-DOG LABRADOR 25KG WITH OWN CRATE 80X100X70CM/S3/P1
II)CHARGE: THE WEIGHT OF THE AVIH WITH THE CONTAINER IS NOT INCLUDED IN THE
FREE BAGGAGE ALLOWANCE AND HAS TO BE CHARGED DEPENDING ON THE SIZE OF
CONTAINER AND THE FLIGHT ROUTING.
THE PIECE WEIGHT LIMIT OF 32KG DOES NOT APPLY FOR AVIH.
MEDIUM AVIH - CONTAINER UP TO 80X55X55
DOMESTIC: HRK 250 + 25% VAT
WITHIN EU: EUR 100/USD 150/CAD 150
INTERNATIONAL: EUR 150/USD 200/CAD 200
LARGE AVIH - CONTAINER UP TO 125X75X85
DOMESTIC: HRK 300 + 25%VAT
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BAGGAGE POLICY EN 12JUN13 1304Z
WITHIN EU: EUR 200/USD 300/CAD 300
INTERNATIONAL: EUR 300/USD 400/CAD 400
-OU DOES NOT SELL CONTAINERS--
****PETS IN CABIN -PETC*******************************************
2 PETS ARE ALLOWED IN CABIN (2 DOGS OR 2 CATS) IN PET BOX OR
SUITABLE HANDBAG AND NOT PLACED ON A SEAT. ONLY 1 CONTAINER IS ALLOWED
PER PASSENGER
SERVICE DOGS (E.G. GUIDE, DEAF) ARE NOT INCLUDED IN THE LIMIT
SPECIALLY TRAINED DOGS (E.G. RESCUE, SEARCH) MAY BE TRANSPORTED
IN THE CABIN WITH THE APPROVAL OF THE SAFETY MANAGER
FOR CARRIAGE OF ALL OTHER ANIMALS PLS CONTACT OU CARGO
I)AMADEUS INPUT EXAMPLE
>SR PETC OU NN1-CAT 3KG OWN CRATE 40X20X20CM/S2
II)TRANSPORTATION
PET INCLUDING CONTAINER MAY NOT EXCEED 55X40X23CM AND MAY NOT
WEIGHT MORE THAN 8KG.
DURING THE WHOLE FLIGHT,THE ANIMAL MUST STAY IN A SUITABLE CONTAINER.
III)CHARGE - PETS ARE EXCLUDED FROM FREE BAGGAGE ALLOWANCE
WITHIN EUROPE EUR 50 /USD/CAD60
ALL INTERNATIONAL EXCEPT EUROPE EUR 70 /USD/CAD 100
DOMESTIC FLIGHTS HRK 150 + 25% VAT
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BAGGAGE POLICY EN 12JUN13 1304Z
FREE OF CHARGE: SEEING-EYE, HEARING OR ASSISTANT DOG
***PROHIBITED ARTICLES-DANGEROUS GOODS*******************************
FIREARMS,EXPLOSIVES,AMMUNITIONS,CORROSIVE OR INFLAMMABLE SUBSTANCES,
LIQUIDS AND FOULSMELLING SUBSTANCES, MAY BE CARRIED ONLY BY PREVIOUS
PERMISSION AND ARRANGEMENT WITH AIRLINE.
**SPORT EQUIPMENT***********************************************
FOR DEFINITIONS AND CHARGES PLEASE SEE WWW.CROATIAAIRLINES.COM
AMADEUS INPUT EXAMPLE:
>SR SPEQ OU NN1 - TTL 15KG 1PC SURFER DIMS 200X60
>SR BULK OU NN1 - TTL 40KG WINDUSFER DIMS 270X80X30
***UNACCOMPANIED BAGGAGE*********************************************
PLEASE CONTACT CROATIA AIRLINES CARGO DEPARTMENT:
TEL: +385 1 616 4573; FAX: +385 1 616 0152; SITA:ZAGFMOU
-END OF INFO-
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Sep 10, 2014, 12:41 am
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Flying with cats via FRA
Hello,
we are planning on flying from TLV - SFO via FRA with our cats.
From what I understand LH is considered to be one of the best options for animals. If we fly with them in cabin, everything is pretty clear. The other option is flying them as a checked luggage.
If we fly via FRA with an overnight (TLV-FRA in the afternoon, FRA-SFO next morning. ~13 hours connection) - what happens with the cats? are they being sent to an overnight boarding in Frankfurt airport (there is one there)? Is it part of the cost (200$ per cat)? Is there a way for us to track and see their status (on flight, in boarding etc).
Thanks a lot
we are planning on flying from TLV - SFO via FRA with our cats.
From what I understand LH is considered to be one of the best options for animals. If we fly with them in cabin, everything is pretty clear. The other option is flying them as a checked luggage.
If we fly via FRA with an overnight (TLV-FRA in the afternoon, FRA-SFO next morning. ~13 hours connection) - what happens with the cats? are they being sent to an overnight boarding in Frankfurt airport (there is one there)? Is it part of the cost (200$ per cat)? Is there a way for us to track and see their status (on flight, in boarding etc).
Thanks a lot
Sep 10, 2014, 1:27 am
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Its part of the cost.
Sep 10, 2014, 3:11 am
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I doubt you can track the status, but better ask LH or LH Cargo about that:
http://lufthansa-cargo.com/en_de/pro...ecials/livetd/
http://lufthansa-cargo.com/en_de/pro...ecials/livetd/