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Old Feb 17, 2013, 8:47 pm
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All numerical PNR

I was just thinking to share that I just got an all numerical locator number for my booking. It was quite interesting, I never saw had that.
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Old Feb 17, 2013, 11:36 pm
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Congratulations!

If my Math is correct, the theoretical odds to get such a PNR are about 1:2177
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Old Feb 18, 2013, 9:28 am
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Originally Posted by rotanes
Congratulations!

If my Math is correct, the theoretical odds to get such a PNR are about 1:2177
I make it 1 in 3385.55
33^6 / 8^6
given 01OIL are all not valid characters; or did I miss some?
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Old Feb 18, 2013, 9:40 am
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Originally Posted by CZBB
I make it 1 in 3385.55
33^6 / 8^6
given 01OIL are all not valid characters; or did I miss some?
I had a couple of PNR's with O, 0,1, I in it....

But I don't know, if they issue PNR's like O0O00O etc.,
so I think its somewhere in the middle between 1:3385 and 1:2177
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Old Feb 18, 2013, 2:07 pm
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Originally Posted by rotanes
Congratulations!

If my Math is correct, the theoretical odds to get such a PNR are about 1:2177
Originally Posted by CZBB
I make it 1 in 3385.55
33^6 / 8^6
given 01OIL are all not valid characters; or did I miss some?
To be valid, the above calculations would require that individual PNR characters are chosen both randomly and independently of one another...I do not know if that is true...

However, I do like quantitative thinking. We don't seem to have enough of that these days.^

In any case, it does seem from both the calculations and from experience that an all-numerical PNR locator is a fairly rare occurrence...
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Old Feb 19, 2013, 2:01 am
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Originally Posted by CZBB
I make it 1 in 3385.55
33^6 / 8^6
given 01OIL are all not valid characters; or did I miss some?
If you take those assumptions it should be 8^6 / 33^6 = ~4927.

I'm actually on rotanes team on this one, it will be closer to 2177 .

Statistically blabla speaking at 2177, buying/flying 2 PNR's a week it would take 21 years to get an all numeric one.

Congrats sillypainter on the oddity

Whoever posts next please give us the probability of 2 consecutive numerical PNR's
GBM

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Old Feb 19, 2013, 5:31 am
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Does anyone know how a given reservation system assigns a PNR?

I notice that when I purchase multiple tickets (with sequential ticket numbers), the PNRs are sometimes very similar, and sometimes quite different...
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Old Feb 19, 2013, 5:47 am
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A little 101 on rloc is here:
http://www.consumertraveler.com/toda...u-should-care/

The range assigned to new PNRs may vary. How Amadeus and others really do it is documented someplace but I can't find it right now.
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Old Apr 9, 2013, 1:34 pm
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So dd received YAHTZE as record locator on a recent flight. What are the odds of that one? Was it just a lucky roll?
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Old Apr 9, 2013, 3:04 pm
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Old Apr 10, 2013, 9:02 am
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Are there five or six characters in the PNR? Assuming all characters are random and uncorrelated, the chance of any single digit being a number is 10/36 (okay, 5/18). There are ten digits 0-9 and 26 letter A-Z. Thus, the chance of getting all numbers is (5/18) to the sixth power, or approximately 1/2,177.

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