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Old Oct 18, 12, 1:53 pm   #1
 
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LH: Which timetable is correct?

LH has changed my FRA connecting flight making my connection not possible. I am trying to select an alternate flight to STR. This is complicated by a discrepancy in times of arrival at FRA. My itinerary on LH.com shows LH441 from Houston arriving at FRA at O9:25. However, the flight schedule on LH.com shows LH441 arriving at 08:55. There are flights FRA/STR at 10:10 and 13:15. I would like to take the earlier flight but its suitability depends on our arrival time at FRA. Which time (itinerary/schedule) is more likely correct? Thanks for any suggestions.
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Old Oct 18, 12, 2:26 pm   #2
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LH has changed my FRA connecting flight making my connection not possible. I am trying to select an alternate flight to STR. This is complicated by a discrepancy in times of arrival at FRA. My itinerary on LH.com shows LH441 from Houston arriving at FRA at O9:25. However, the flight schedule on LH.com shows LH441 arriving at 08:55. There are flights FRA/STR at 10:10 and 13:15. I would like to take the earlier flight but its suitability depends on our arrival time at FRA. Which time (itinerary/schedule) is more likely correct? Thanks for any suggestions.
Do you happen to be travelling during the last week of October/first week of November when Europe has reverted to the standard time and the US is still using the DST? During this period transatlantic flight schedules tend to get adjusted a few times.
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Old Oct 18, 12, 6:45 pm   #3
 
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We depart IAH on 21 November. Do you think a 45 min connection is doable? We are in business with no checked bags.
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Old Oct 18, 12, 10:11 pm   #4
 
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If there are no delays on the inbound, you should make it. I did a 50 min connection non Schengen to Schengen in March with plenty of time to spare (I was worried as a missed connection would have meant overnight in FRA). As long as you are on one ticket, it becomes Lufthansa's problem.
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Old Oct 18, 12, 10:49 pm   #5
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We depart IAH on 21 November. Do you think a 45 min connection is doable? We are in business with no checked bags.
According to LH's booking site and printed timetable the arrival time of LH441 is 08:55. I think you'll have 75 mins rather than 45 mins in FRA. Even if you miss the connection there's a train to STR (with an LH flight number!) at 11:20 and another flight at 13:15.

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Old Oct 19, 12, 1:49 am   #6
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LH is still selling the connection as arriving at 8.55:

Code:
TN21NOVIAHSTR/XFRA/ALH                                                          
** AMADEUS TIMETABLE - TN ** STR STUTTGART.DE                  21NOV12 28NOV12  
 1   LH 441  X7   IAH D FRA 1  1610    0855+1 0 CONNECT FRA     388             
  CL*LH 128  X7   FRA 1 STR 1  1010+1  1055+1 0 05NOV12 22DEC12 CR7 11:45       
 2   LH 441  7    IAH D FRA 1  1610    0855+1 0 CONNECT FRA     388             
  CL*LH 128  7    FRA 1 STR 1  1025+1  1110+1 0 04NOV12 16DEC12 CR7 12:00       
 3UA:LH7600  5    IAH C FRA 1  1840    1145+1 0 CONNECT FRA     764             
     LH 130  5    FRA 1 STR 1  1310+1  1355+1 0 23NOV12 23NOV12 320 12:15
The connection of 1h15 is perfectly legal within MCT:

Code:
DM1/2                                                                           
FRA-FRA      FROM      -             TO                                         
CC FLTN-FLTR ORGN EQPTM-CC FLTN-FLTR DEST EQPTM     HMM                         
LH 0400-0799           -                        I/D:100                         
ACTUAL CONNECTING TIME IS 115
The FLIFO also shows 8.55 arrival:

Code:
DOLH441/21NOV                                                                   
* 1A PLANNED FLIGHT INFO *              LH 441   33 WE 21NOV                    
APT ARR   DY DEP   DY CLASS/MEAL          EQP  GRND  EFT   TTL                  
IAH          1610  WE FAJCDZPYBMU/M       388         9:45                      
                      HQVWSTLK/M                                                
FRA 0855  TH                                                9:45                
                                                                                
COMMENTS-                                                                       
 1.IAH FRA   - DEPARTS TERMINAL D                                               
 2.IAH FRA   - ARRIVES TERMINAL 1                                               
 3.IAH FRA   - SECURED FLIGHT                                                   
 4.IAH FRA   -  ET/ ELECTRONIC TKT CANDIDATE                                    
 5.IAH FRA   - SEC FLT PSGR DATA REQUIRED 72 HBD SSR DOCS                       
 6.IAH FRA   - US LAW SEE GGAIRLH PNR ACCESS OR NEWS KEYWORDS                   
 7.IAH FRA   - ESTA REQUIRED FOR VISA WAIVER NATIONALS                          
 8.IAH FRA   - F8C98M420                                                        
                                                                                
CONFIGURATION-                                                


               388  F   8   C  98   M 420
Are you sure you didn't confuse the flight time (9h45m) with the arrival?
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Old Oct 19, 12, 3:10 pm   #7
 
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Itinerary on both UA and LH showed 9:25 arrival in FRA. They both now show an 8:55 arrival time. I am rebooked on LH128 and it looks like I will have plenty of time. Thanks all.
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Old Oct 20, 12, 1:01 pm   #8
 
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Itinerary on both UA and LH showed 9:25 arrival in FRA. They both now show an 8:55 arrival time. I am rebooked on LH128 and it looks like I will have plenty of time. Thanks all.
Take the train to ZWS instead of flying to STR. It will be a bit cheaper, because there are not airport taxes to pay at ZWS and the train is much more comfortable and takes you directly into town...
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