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Old Dec 27, 2012, 11:27 pm
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Carnival season in Germany ("Rosenmontag") -> nobody wants to fly
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Old Dec 28, 2012, 2:09 am
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Carnival season in Germany ("Rosenmontag") -> nobody wants to fly
Plenty want to fly, just the other way
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Old Dec 28, 2012, 2:19 am
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Can't book flights to the past...
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Old Dec 28, 2012, 3:00 am
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Looks like that week the flight is not operating Mon + Wed.
The week before and after it is operating every day.
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Old Dec 28, 2012, 3:11 am
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certain days of the year LH/LX are cutting flights to the US to adjust for low demand. I remember on Thanksgiving there was no LH/LX flight out of BOS at all; no FRA, MUC or ZRH flight ... had to fly AF
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Old Dec 28, 2012, 3:24 am
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Thumbs down LH Cancels/Does Not Operate ALL FRA/MUC Flights To BOM!

I was planning another trip to the US a few days ago and found that no LH flights were coming up *at all* on the GDS - figured they were zeroed out.

Tried booking on LH.com and found that I had to route over 3 sectors - forget that!

Then booked my itinerary on United - no problem there - flying over was much easier too, and got some additional sectors for a MR.

However, when I got to the (LH-run) lounge at BOM, they told me that there were *no* FRA flights operating until 2 Jan 2013 and also the MUC flights were not operating until 29? Dec....!!!

The lounge rep said she couldn't remember this happening in the past, and I also stated that I only noted this happening during strikes.

I think Lufthansa must be bleeding really badly if they are routing pax over LX only into/out of BOM!
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Old Dec 28, 2012, 3:34 am
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Originally Posted by SuperFlyBoy
I was planning another trip to the US a few days ago and found that no LH flights were coming up *at all* on the GDS - figured they were zeroed out.

Tried booking on LH.com and found that I had to route over 3 sectors - forget that!

Then booked my itinerary on United - no problem there - flying over was much easier too, and got some additional sectors for a MR.

However, when I got to the (LH-run) lounge at BOM, they told me that there were *no* FRA flights operating until 2 Jan 2013 and also the MUC flights were not operating until 29? Dec....!!!

The lounge rep said she couldn't remember this happening in the past, and I also stated that I only noted this happening during strikes.

I think Lufthansa must be bleeding really badly if they are routing pax over LX only into/out of BOM!
So premium cabin demand is down at this time -- even as economy class is quite often busy at this time -- and that is why they pulled this? Seems so.

This really does eat into a lot of vacation plans for LH passengers. Will LH be paying out the EU compensation in full for flight cancellations or will they engage in shenanigans to try to get around that too?
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Old Dec 28, 2012, 3:52 am
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Schedule changes happen, even temporary suspensions on certain routes....

But I see flights from FRA and MUC operating to BOM (for example LH764) so it's not even true.
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Old Dec 28, 2012, 3:56 am
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Originally Posted by RTW1
Schedule changes happen, even temporary suspensions on certain routes....

But I see flights from FRA and MUC operating to BOM (for example LH764) so it's not even true.
Uh-huh...not true?:

[KVS Availability Tool 7.1.2/Diamond - SNT: Awards/StarAlliance/JP-ANA-SP1]
Code:
FRA  Frankfurt Metro / Intl DE = FRA HHN [EDDF]
BOM  Mumbai Chhatrapati Shivaji IN [VABB]
SAT  29 Dec 2012 | 1 Seat

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -------------
TK         1588    FRA   11:40     IST   15:40     330  0   FS/  CS-  YS-
 -> TK     720     IST   19:35     BOM   05:15 +1  330  0   FS/  CS-  YS-
LH         1300    FRA   12:50     IST   16:45     320  0   FS/  CS-  YS-
 -> TK     720     IST   19:35     BOM   05:15 +1  330  0   FS/  CS-  YS-
LH         98      FRA   07:00     MUC   08:05     321  0   FS/  CS+  YS-
 -> LH     764     MUC   11:25     BOM   23:59     333  0   FS-  CS+  YS-
LH         100     FRA   08:00     MUC   09:05     321  0   FS/  CS-  YS-
 -> LH     764     MUC   11:25     BOM   23:59     333  0   FS-  CS-  YS-
As I stated before, I was told MUC flights resuming on 29 Dec...

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Old Dec 28, 2012, 4:06 am
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LH764 MUC-BOM has just left a few minutes ago....?

So temporary changes to the normal schedule, but still some flights scheduled. Nothing really newsworthy, happens on a lot of legs.
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Old Dec 28, 2012, 4:13 am
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Originally Posted by RTW1
. Nothing really newsworthy.
http://www.business-standard.com/ind...ghts/200499/on


Lufthansa cancels India flights
The German airline withdraws the flights due to lower bookings
Aneesh Phadnis / Mumbai Dec 24, 2012, 18:43 IST

Lufthansa has cut down its flights to India in the Christmas week as business travel slows down during this period. The German airline has 46 weekly flights from Frankfurt and Munich to Mumbai, Delhi, Pune, Chennai and Bangalore.
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Old Dec 28, 2012, 4:19 am
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Originally Posted by RTW1
LH764 MUC-BOM has just left a few minutes ago....?

So temporary changes to the normal schedule, but still some flights scheduled. Nothing really newsworthy, happens on a lot of legs.
Nice - another vigorous LH defense.

LH765 MUC-BOM (your LH764/28 Dec) only operates on 29 Dec BOM time - so the LH lounge rep was correct.

Still, if one preferred to fly LH - why wouldn't we not have this option?

I doubt the gulf carriers are doing this...

(United didn't)
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Old Dec 28, 2012, 4:23 am
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So much for the assertion that it is nothing really newsworthy when it makes the news.

http://www.rediff.com/business/slide...1/20121225.htm

So will LH be paying out the EU compensation for flight cancellations to all hit by the cancellations, or is this yet another aspect where there will be shenanigans?

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Old Dec 28, 2012, 4:28 am
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Originally Posted by SuperFlyBoy
Nice - another vigorous LH defense.
Not really a defense... why should I.

But you're obvious trying to make a point that I don't get. Seasonal changes to flight schedules are nothing new and happen with all carriers. Sometimes by swapping equipment and sometime by changes in frequency or by cancelling them. Your post seemed to suggest that there were no flights to BOM and that simply isn't true. The flight to/from MUC has been operating the last few days as well.

Nobody really benefits from incorrect info, whatever you were or were not told....
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Old Dec 28, 2012, 4:41 am
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Originally Posted by RTW1
Your post seemed to suggest that there were no flights to BOM and that simply isn't true.
Of course it was correct.

LH764 was not operating on 26 December ex-MUC.

FRA is not operating until 2 December.

Originally Posted by RTW1
Nobody really benefits from incorrect info, whatever you were or were not told....
I stand by my statements - sorry - backed by GUWonder's link!
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